Barack Obama's S.C Victory Speech

[Ganymede]

=S.A.M.;1728790]1. What taxes, the economy is in recession. Tax breaks are in the offing, remember?

This recession is largely due to the subprime mortgage crisis. And that's being addressed as we speak. This recession will soon be over. Believe me.

2. No permanent bases OR troops to protect embassy and diplomats?

You heard what he said.

[countezero]

What's the reason why you think he can't do much. And do you care to comment on the thread topic? This the best Victory speech ever. If you can point out another video that competes. Please post it.

What has he done? Speeches don't equal effectiveness. I'd like someone to show me what Barrack has actually done?

[S.A.M.]

This recession is largely due to the subprime mortgage crisis. And that's being addressed as we speak. This recession will soon be over. Believe me.

It is? how? By slashing interest rates and flooding the market with liquidity?

You heard what he said.

Yeah, he said no permanent bases, only permanent troops. I guess they'll be sleeping in tents.

[Ganymede]

What has he done? Speeches don't equal effectiveness. I'd like someone to show me what Barrack has actually done?

Go research his record. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

[countezero]

If you can't tell people what he's done, how do you expect to convince anyone to take your support of him seriously?

[Ganymede]

=S.A.M.;1728823]It is? how? By slashing interest rates and flooding the market with liquidity?

It worked in 2001 after the 911 attacks.

Yeah, he said no permanent bases, only permanent troops. I guess they'll be sleeping in tents.

He never said permenant troops. The troops will be guarding the embassy, and dimplomats only. The troops will carry out strategic attacks when needed. Not endless policing of Iraqi neiborhoods, or clusterbombing civilian areas like we're doing now. He's our best choice hands down.

[draqon]

Yeah, he said no permanent bases, only permanent troops. I guess they'll be sleeping in tents.

http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

and

U.S Embassy...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...-embassy_x.htm



it ain't no tents...allright...

[Ganymede]

If you can't tell people what he's done, how do you expect to convince anyone to take your support of him seriously?

It's not my job to inform the ignorant. ^

[S.A.M.]

http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

and

U.S Embassy...
it ain't no tents...allright...

Yeah, a base by any other name?

Can you think why the US needs a base as big as 80 football fields in Iraq?

Do you see what I mean? I hear a lot of words, but they don't mean anything.

[draqon]

Yeah, a base by any other name?

Can you think why the US needs a base as big as 80 football fields in Iraq?

you asking me?

to play golf and swim in swimming pool of course...

[Exhumed]

To say Obama is all talk is to say that you don't think he will follow through with what he proposes, I assume?

That's what the words mean to me, but I don't see how any one could think that he wouldn't follow through. Even on his most vague, general slogan about bringing "change", it is obvious he will bring about drastic change. Of course there is a question of how effective he will be in his proposals.

He uses a lot of words, but there is nothing really there.

Or could it be that you are listening to media sound bytes? The media has been picking up on issues of character, and side-issues like race, and generalities for everyone. It isn't because the candidates are lacking in plans. One reason is that most people think the democrats have virtually the same positions on policy, which is somewhat true. Another reason is the media likes to talk about fluff.

As for the spending, the economy and recession, first of all, he is not a miracle worker. I don't know what you can expect. There is no quick fix. Though there are ways to make substantial improvements. The majority of the deficit came from tax cuts to the rich. Taxes will be raised for the rich under Obama. For spending, I'm sure you've heard all the things the money for Iraq could of otherwise paid for.

Reversing Bush policies such as the Iraq war will be a huge improvement all by themselves. Though true of all three democratic contenders, I expect government policy on science to go back to the direction it was in pre-Bush (I have seen things that make this true of Obama and Edwards, not sure about Hillary, but obviously she would know best what direction we were in pre-Bush). I would expect that to be positive for the economy.

Beyond going in the opposite direction of Bush and going towards scientific development, I don't really know much about his economic plans. On a few occasions I've heard him address things such as Detroit's ailing auto industry, and he does not pander. Like with most things, I thought he displayed good, realistic, analytical ability. Like with most things... Obama is future oriented, has modern ideas, and not stuck in the past. I consider that vital for global competition.

I don't know what exactly you are looking for in economic plans. I believe all democratic candidates have given their opinions on trade/trade agreements, the economy in general, taxes, spending, what areas they would invest in...

[Exhumed]

Yeah, he said no permanent bases, only permanent troops. I guess they'll be sleeping in tents.

Fighting Al Qaeda in the region != permanent base.

[Exhumed]

Oh yeah, one more thing.

The strength of the candidates is all relative. For Obama critics, how is some other candidate better?

[Exhumed]

I HATE HIM.

Why?

I am voting for Clinton, 4ever

Why?

oh gush...the inner me is racist and I hate...I hate....grrrr....

What?

but than he does sound promising as a leader of USA...

So are you like, voting for the worst leader for the USA? Is that better for Russia? :P

I dunno, Clinton is proved to be foolproof by her husband...

Can you elaborate?

[draqon]

So are you like, voting for the worst leader for the USA? Is that better for Russia? :P

well emmm... .... I am just voting a president with good intentions for Russia...not like McCain's outbursts against Russia...

[draqon]

and Exhumed don't take me seriously, I joke about everything

[Xelios]

How many times have Presidents actually done all the things they promised to do during their election campaigns? I think you're voting more for a candidate's principles and their ability to make sound decisions than what they say their plans are before they've even set foot in the oval office. Things rarely go according to plan.

[Exhumed]

How many times have Presidents actually done all the things they promised to do during their election campaigns? I think you're voting more for a candidate's principles and their ability to make sound decisions than what they say their plans are before they've even set foot in the oval office. Things rarely go according to plan.

Agreed. That is why I like Obama. I think he has good decision making ability.

A good portion of policy decisions are conditional, and no one knows what the future conditions are going to be about a year from now.

[Lord Hillyer]

Even I like Obama, and will vote for him in November. How much more of a uniter could he be, to attract both Ganymede and Lord Hillyer?

[Lord Hillyer]

As for Sandy liking Mitt Romney - Good God, are you joking? He makes John Edwards look sincere by comparison.