Bible Contradictions 1

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:08 PM

Gods give rise to universe in which the creations are born, develop and slowly become God-like...until they create universes oncemore to give rise to more Gods of their own universes.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 08:12 PM

God is the weapon of choice.

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

God is the weapon of choice.

if weapon at all.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 08:17 PM

Why do we have to die for failing a test? If you were to take a test that resulted in your death if upon failure then would you have liked to have been given that little piece of information beforehand?

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

Why do we have to die for failing a test? If you were to take a test that resulted in your death if upon failure then would you have liked to have been given that little piece of information beforehand?

we never fail a test...we either are part of it or not. Death is as birth, birth is as death.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by draqon

we never fail a test...we either are part of it or not. Death is as birth, birth is as death.

In posts #2 & #16 you said we were created so our free will could be tested. So am I to believe that you are saying death is not a result of failing the test? Just so we're on the same page, can you tell me what the test is?

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

In posts #2 & #16 you said we were created so our free will could be tested. So am I to believe that you are saying death is not a result of failing the test? Just so we're on the same page, can you tell me what the test is?

the test is our expression of free will...the strength of it. Say you wanted to smoke drugs and everyone told you it felt really good...well after you tried it once and felt good, you denied yourself with power of free will to do it against the body's wish to have it.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 08:32 PM

How we express our free will is the test you refer to, is that correct?

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

How we express our free will is the test you refer to, is that correct?

in essence, yes...but there are two paths after that.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by draqon

in essence, yes...but there are two paths after that.

Regardless of how many paths there are, how is free will testable? The only thing testable about it is whether you use it or not. Make a person, install free will, then see if they use it.....you can't go any further than that.

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

Regardless of how many paths there are, how is free will testable? The only thing testable about it is whether you use it or not. Make a person, install free will, then see if they use it.....you can't go any further than that.

not true, thats what "time" is for, there are many episodes to test the power of free will, the stronger it is, the more wiser in soul a person becomes...the more God-like and more pure.

It is like taming a raging ocean storm with hands.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 08:55 PM

Let's get back on track. Is God punishing us for failing the free will test?

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

Let's get back on track. Is God punishing us for failing the free will test?

no, we are punishing ourselves by not being part of it...we become its creations...shadows in essence. But to call it punishment, would be not wise, it is more like not participating in a project of universe.

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 09:00 PM

Am I not exercising my free will by endorsing atheism?

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

Am I not exercising my free will by endorsing atheism?

not really, your are just leaning towards a belief of sorts...to exercise your free will you must deny or force upon yourself something that the world and your body wishes not...

I mean I would have to understand thoroughly if belief in atheism allows you to exercise your free will or is merely an instinct against what is commonly accepted...it is hard to discern which is which...

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 09:17 PM

Are you saying everyone's default setting is atheist and that free will is any personal movement away from it?

**~~draqon~~** · 01-26-08, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

Are you saying everyone's default setting is atheist and that free will is any personal movement away from it?

there is no such thing as a default setting, people tend to follow other people and thats all there is to it.

**~~Reiku~~** · 01-26-08, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Myles

Question 2

Why did god create a world full of sinners, Noah and his family excepted, and then have to drown them all ?

Bceuase of the fall of man, and also because the fallen angels chose for them daughters of men to have sex with, and even have half-angel and half-man babies. They where called the ''Giants,'' or the 'Nephilim.' - or also the ''Sons of Anak.''

**PsychoticEpisode** · 01-26-08, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by draqon

I mean I would have to understand thoroughly if belief in atheism allows you to exercise your free will or is merely an instinct against what is commonly accepted...it is hard to discern which is which...

Choosing to follow or not is an exercise in free will. Every conscious decision is an exercise in free will. In fact everything I voluntarily do is an exercise in free will. Anything else is involuntary, like a twitching muscle.

This is another topic so I will refrain from discussing free will in this thread from here on in.

**Myles** · 01-27-08, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Reiku

Bceuase of the fall of man, and also because the fallen angels chose for them daughters of men to have sex with, and even have half-angel and half-man babies. They where called the ''Giants,'' or the 'Nephilim.' - or also the ''Sons of Anak.''

So why did god create such people, knowing they were going to behave in that way. He had the power not to do so, or didn't he ?