Obama: Belongs to a racist religious organisation

**~~mountainhare~~** · 01-07-08, 02:32 AM

Since some members on this forum love to sink their fangs in to the fact that white nationalists are sucking Ron Paul's wang . They assume that this is indicative of Ron Paul giving implicit support to white supremacist ideology.

So I'm just wondering what these posters conclude from the following?

http://mu-warrior.blogspot.com/2007/...ic-church.html

The above describes how Obama has admitted to being affiliated with the Trinity of the United Church of Christ. This religious organisation pledges allegiance to Africa, and believes in the following:

We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:
Commitment to God
Commitment to the Black Community
Commitment to the Black Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

Such a religious organisation appears to promote 'black power' and the 'black way of life'. Racist sumsuch?

**Carcano** · 01-07-08, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by mountainhare

The above describes how Obama has admitted to being affiliated...

How affiliated???

**Challenger78** · 01-07-08, 07:22 AM

Come on, Mountain, You can do better than a blogspot.
And his pastor isn't as racist as some of em white supremacy folks..

From your sources..

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For his part, Wright said he doesn&'t want to do anything to harm Obama. "His position across the years has been, `I know who I am, I know what I believe, but I don&'t disrespect you or diminish you because you have a different belief. And we don&'t have to believe the same thing to get along and to build a better world,&'" Wright said.

**Ganymede** · 01-07-08, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by mountainhare

Since some members on this forum love to sink their fangs in to the fact that white nationalists are sucking Ron Paul's wang . They assume that this is indicative of Ron Paul giving implicit support to white supremacist ideology.

So I'm just wondering what these posters conclude from the following?

http://mu-warrior.blogspot.com/2007/...ic-church.html

The above describes how Obama has admitted to being affiliated with the Trinity of the United Church of Christ. This religious organisation pledges allegiance to Africa, and believes in the following:

Such a religious organisation appears to promote 'black power' and the 'black way of life'. Racist sumsuch?

It's not about Black Power, it's about self reliance. Your party has been preaching to the Black Community for decades to stop asking whitey for a handout and to help themselves. The very minute they do that, you cry foul. Would your rather have them uplift themselves, or have them living off of your Tax dollars? I thought so.

**shichimenshyo** · 01-07-08, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ganymede

It's not about Black Power, it's about self reliance. Your party has been preaching to the Black Community for decades to stop asking whitey for a handout and to help themselves. The very minute they do that, you cry foul. Would your rather have them uplift themselves, or have them living off of your Tax dollars? I thought so.

Well said sir.

**spidergoat** · 01-07-08, 04:36 PM

Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”

? I don't get this one. What's wrong with being middle class?

**~~sandy~~** · 01-07-08, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ganymede

It's not about Black Power.....

Yes it is. It's a black supremacist church. I said this months ago and got infracted for it.

**shichimenshyo** · 01-07-08, 04:51 PM

I wonder why ?!!?!?!?!?

**~~sandy~~** · 01-07-08, 04:55 PM

It's true. I provided proof and links. Some people just don't want to hear the truth.

**spidergoat** · 01-07-08, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by sandy

Yes it is. It's a black supremacist church. I said this months ago and got infracted for it.

Because it's a lie. Wanting to create an institution to help the disadvantaged Africa-American community is NOT the same thing as saying blacks are superior.

**shichimenshyo** · 01-07-08, 05:19 PM

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
Click here to read about Dr. Wright’s talking points for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System.

from the about us of their website. I fail to see how educating about black history and haveing a commitment to those in africa makes you a black supremecy orginization.

**James R** · 01-07-08, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by mountainhare

Such a religious organisation appears to promote 'black power' and the 'black way of life'. Racist sumsuch?

What's a "black way of life"? And how do you think it is being promoted?

Also, racism involves negative discrimination against other races, does it not?

**~~sandy~~** · 01-07-08, 07:23 PM

I call bs. Substitute the word "white" for black and people would be SCREAMING "racism" until they were hoarse.

**Ghost_007** · 01-07-08, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by sandy

I call bs. Substitute the word "white" for black and people would be SCREAMING "racism" until they were hoarse.

Sandy, they are as Christian as you.

They most probably love God and Jesus as much as you.

They are your brothers and sisters!

**~~sandy~~** · 01-07-08, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ghost_007

Sandy, they are as Christian as you.
They most probably love God and Jesus as much as you.
They are your brothers and sisters!

They most certainly are NOT! They don't go around all day getting people saved/churched. The only one who talks about Jesus Christ is Huckabee. The democrats don't even seem to know who Jesus is.

**shichimenshyo** · 01-07-08, 07:36 PM

you dont know anything about the democratic candidates do you?

**Ghost_007** · 01-07-08, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by sandy

They most certainly are NOT! They don't go around all day getting people saved/churched. The only one who talks about Jesus Christ is Huckabee. The democrats don't even seem to know who Jesus is.

Sandy, your Christian crew does not have a monopoly over God, Jesus or Christianity. Black Christians are as Christian as Whites. Practising, non-practising, it doesn't matter. A Christian is a Christian.

**James R** · 01-07-08, 07:50 PM

The only one who talks about Jesus Christ is Huckabee.

What about Romney? He's a good Mormon.

**~~sandy~~** · 01-07-08, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by shichimenshyo

you dont know anything about the democratic candidates do you?

Yep. Plenty. What do you want to know?

Originally Posted by Ghost_007

Sandy, your Christian crew does not have a monopoly over God, Jesus or Christianity. Black Christians are as Christian as Whites. Practising, non-practising, it doesn't matter. A Christian is a Christian.

You don't get it, do you? A lukewarm Christian is useless to God. He "spits them out." On-fire is best. I never said anything about black Christians. Of course they're as Christian as whites. Christianity is color blind.

Originally Posted by James R

What about Romney? He's a good Mormon.

I don't know enough about the degree of his involvement in the Mormon church/the extent of his Mormonism. I do have a problem with Joseph Smith and them having their own Bible (the Book of Mormon). If he was a Christian, he would be a shoe-in for the next POTUS.