Star Wars vs Star Trek

[Omega133]

Actually... Warp 9 isn't faster than hyperspace... Warp 9.98 is just about on par with it.

However, Trek DOES have Quantum Slipstream and Transwarp to it's advantage.

I knew about Slip-Stream, but that was just oneship in Voyager wasn't it? That one guy's who wanted to give Janeway to the Borg. Sorry, I can't remember the names.

[Sardonic Crisis]

Actually, around page 500 or so the criteria was changed because of the fact that trying to encompass everything from every point in time was not only fruitless, but pointless - it just didn't make sense, and there was too much to analyze.

We're also SUPPOSED to be leaving out things such as the Q, Star Forge, Doomsday Device, and other "super-over-the-top" things that are instant I-Win buttons for the other side. However, that seems to keep... not happening...

Do you know what post # it was? I have a custom length to my pages.

[ProphetofWisdom]

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Hey, when your small car sized spaceships have a low end output of 600GT/s and your flagship is the size of a planet you have the firepower to solo most other sci-fi universes out there.

I wonder how the Irkens would react to a Thalaron Pulse... I mean, it does simply bypass the shields and armor of a ship to affect the crew within... so... I dunno. I think even the Massive would be boned if a Thalaron Weapon were deployed against it

That would only slow them down until they cloned new bodies. The thing to remember is you can not truly kill an Irken without destroying their PAK.

Anyways, its time to call planet Callnowia and unleash the inter-galactic FTL Package Cannons of Dooooooooooom!

[Apocalypse2001]

Think of it this way fanboy, 1 centimeter = 1,000 km, it was 6 centimeters, that means 6,000 kilometers, fanboy loses, just likes his Borg wank loses to true baryonic powers

do you even realize what you just wrote??? Jesus fucking Christ on a stick!! You're a complete moron. Good bye.

[ricrery]

These ships were armed with 4 heavy torpedo launch tubes; 24 point-defense laser cannons, rated at 6 megatons per shot; and 12 quad turbolaser turrets, each rated at a maximum of 200 gigatons per shot.[6]

Groups of these ships could perform a "Base Delta Zero", an orbital bombardment that would exterminate all life on the planet.[6] The later Acclamator II-class could also serve as star frigates to support their landing groups. In addition to ground landings, Acclamator-class ships were capable of water landings, as displayed at the Battle of Mon Calamari.[8]

The sensor and communications suites were located at the front of the ship's command tower.[6]

The hull armor of Acclamator-class vessels was impregnated with ultra-dispersive neutronium that withstood and spread massive energy blasts. Fusion rockets fired by enemy forces barely made a scratch on the hull as a result.[6]

Power output

Peak: 3,6 × 1024 W[1]

That means 870 teratons.

Peak: >9,28 × 1024 W[5] (over 20% more power than the ISD-I)[6][7]

2.2 petatons.

[ricrery]

do you even realize what you just wrote??? Jesus fucking Christ on a stick!! You're a complete moron. Good bye.

This is why people who know jackshit about things shouldn't be allowed near the Internet. It's a BOARD GAME, IMBECILE. You're an idiot, you have a learning disability, and you think a WEAK PIECE OF SHIT RACE LIKE THE BORG can beat the Xeelee.

[Apocalypse2001]

This is why people who know jackshit about things shouldn't be allowed near the Internet. It's a BOARD GAME, IMBECILE. You're an idiot, you have a learning disability, and you think a WEAK PIECE OF SHIT RACE LIKE THE BORG can beat the Xeelee.

you stated simple mathematics that made 1) no sense 2) had nothing to do with anything that we are talking about 3) shows you have a speech impediment. Either that or

[Kittamaru]

Ironic, because Perion, Blacksun2175, and Jemaqurai hate you. Sequist is also hated, and you are on his side. Wait, Sequist is enough to prove Trekkers are mindless fanboys xD.

Funny thing is, I don't see Perion, Blacksun, or Jemaquari here... so, yeah, who are these magical people you keep talking about?

And Sequist? Who's that? You mean Saquist? He doesn't hate me...

[ricrery]

you stated simple mathematics that made 1) no sense 2) had nothing to do with anything that we are talking about 3) shows you have a speech impediment. Either that or

Okay... 1 centimeter is worth 1,000 km, and the moon was 6 centimeters in size... you do the math... either that, or concede all of the Fed's ships wouldn't shake a transport's shields.

[ricrery]

Saquist is stated to be an idiot by pretty much everyone I ask.

[Kittamaru]

Source?

Sources include First Contact, Q Who, Best of Both Worlds, Drone, Revulsion, and a handful of other episodes... taken directly from dialogue and/or inferred from on-screen evidence.

What? It's just superior to Phasers in every way, except stun.

Gauss Cannon - Read and educate yourself

Fact is, they weren't conquering the planet, it's theirs! Besides, one volley from a Cobra Class Frigate >>>>> all the Klingon and Fed ships bombarding in DS9.

Sources and proof, please.

Wrong... the Necrons will turn all the Borg to blood and dust. Remember that site? EVERYONE agreed Borg would get fucked so hard, while you ignore them. If L-W was here he'd tear you a new one.

I actually commented on that site, stating the same thing I said here- people are downplaying the Borg... they aren't as stupid as people make them out to be, especially if you take into account the "new" Borg - more aggressive, faster, sleeker, and they don't even care about Assimilating the Federation anymore.

Before they get blown up by transport torpedoes 200 ft in length? xD

If the torpedo is that big, it would be rather easy to shoot down...

I meant meters, 6,300-10,000 meters. Which is still massively superior to almost anything in ST. Add in the rulebook says one lance (lasers which Trekkers DESPISE) can vaporize a 6,000 km moon. Well, that's what I heard.

That's a little more reasonable then. Though I wonder how well their capital weapons would be able to track a small, nimble Trek ship...

And the clearly superior Necrons (who use Dyson Spheres as common constructions on every star they own), would be assimilated? They are controlled by C'Tan, so, no. Necrodermis also allows them to teleport away if they aren't resistant (they are resistant), and what happens when an armada of planet sized World Engines start destroying their planets? Borg will NOT adapt to tech they are billions of years behind.

Proof of Dyson Spheres in WH40K being the same as ST?

Let's see, Imperium loses to Galactic Empire, most races are too small or weak to stand up to the Imperium, and Tyranids are slow, Orks are living on a dangerously exploitable monarch level, and Necrons haven't begun to harvest the galaxy (and then some). Warhammer 40,000 has more story than Trek but less than Wars.

Yes, but WH40K is also incredibly oversized and overpowered... I have no doubt WH40K would crush Trek, Wars, and a dozen other sci-fi's combined if they are allowed to work on THEIR "physics". Drop them into a more realistic physics set (like, say SW or ST) and their ships would implode, weapons would randomly detonate upon first attempt to fire, and Orks would find that painting their vehicles red doesn't actually make them go faster...

[ricrery]

Funny thing is, I don't see Perion, Blacksun, or Jemaquari here... so, yeah, who are these magical people you keep talking about?

Kittamaru (2 years ago)
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I assume this is TWScott?

See?

[Kittamaru]

The episode shows that the confident Q is definitely rattled by her presence. The dismissive attitude could be bravado in order to maintain the semblance of superiority to Picard. Here is the exchange: Q-Who (it occurs at approximately 3:35 into the video)

I dunno... if you notice, Guinan takes much the same pose as Q... which could be taken as an indication she has much the same powers. I mean, he offers to wipe her out of existence after all, and sounds quite confident about it. The fact that they met over two centuries ago... the fact that Guinan immediately picks up on Q's conversation about their arrogance shows that she has had extensive dealings with them in the past...

I dunno - to be fair, there is a LOT we don't know about both races.

EDIT - she was also unable to prevent Q from sending the Ent-D into the path of the Borg... *shrugs*

[Kittamaru]

See?

See what? Me referring to you as TWScott?

[Kittamaru]

Saquist is stated to be an idiot by EVERYONE he debates with. He's the biggest fanboy ever.

Sources plzkthnx?

[Kittamaru]

Was I talking to you? Stupid, in fact, that was an outside reference to a joke to a video that you've never seen.

Really? Now it sounds like your just trying to cover your ass with both hands...

[Kittamaru]

I knew about Slip-Stream, but that was just oneship in Voyager wasn't it? That one guy's who wanted to give Janeway to the Borg. Sorry, I can't remember the names.

It is implied in ENT, Voyager, and a handful of other references that SlipStrem becomes standard in the future - the fact that the Enterprise-D under command of Admiral Riker (All Good Things) is able to hit Warp 15 shows a vast increase in speed...

[ProphetofWisdom]

do you even realize what you just wrote??? Jesus fucking Christ on a stick!! You're a complete moron. Good bye.

1 centimeter on the table top by 40K game rules = X number of kilometers IRL.

Kittamaru
Gauss Cannon - Read and educate yourself

He's not talking about that Gauss Cannon. A Necron Gauss Cannon IIRC is an energy weapon that rips matter apart.

Saquist is stated to be an idiot by EVERYONE he debates with. He's the biggest fanboy ever.

Who is this Saquist?

[Kittamaru]

Do you know what post # it was? I have a custom length to my pages.

No clue mate, sorry.

I will be frank - I have no ire with you, and no reason to be dishonest. Trust me when I say this was done - you yourself know how vast the universes in question are. By limiting them to the latest and greatest, we give ourselves a vantage point to look over the technology and be able to see it for what it is, instead of trying to grasp at the veils we have (such as the Suncrusher, Dyson Sphere, and other "indestructible" things... who would win? Suncrusher vs Dyson Sphere... Doomsday Device vs Death Star... things like that cannot honestly be answered)

[Kittamaru]

This is why people who know jackshit about things shouldn't be allowed near the Internet. It's a BOARD GAME, IMBECILE. You're an idiot, you have a learning disability, and you think a WEAK PIECE OF SHIT RACE LIKE THE BORG can beat the Xeelee.

Problem is, you never mention the board game until now... so the rest of us have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

And besides, posts like this show your obvious ignorance and bias towards your own arguments.