Star Wars vs Star Trek

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Shogun

If you people bring out Q, I will bring out the fact that mass have no effect on the force and in theory there is no limit to the power of the force. Q can be killed, the Force can't, deal with it!

Q cannot be killed except by another Q or by a method created by the Q and willingly given to a person...

I mean, Q himself can snap his fingers, and the entirety of Star Wars would never have happened - the first "evolution" of each of the races in Star Trek would never have crawled out of the primordial ooze... he's already shown himself easily capable of not only doing it, but showing one man (Jean Luc) it was happening, helping him figure out why, then saving humanity because (jean luc) proved that Humanity was actually worth observing.

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Where did I get them? I got them from this magical device called a Television that shows you all these nice pictures and pretty sounds. One of those picture-sound thingies was called a documentary on "the science of star trek" that showed parallels between Star Trek and Real Life, in which many scientists gave Star Trek credit for the inspiration behind many objects we take for granted.

Now, unless you think you're more qualified to make those decisions than Ph.D's in Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and other fields, shut up.

i am not,and i have never claimed to...and yes they ARE PARALLELS,but not
INSPIRED!

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

NO, he showed me a wiki with no proof on it - it shows a number.

that has ONLY cannon material on it!

When you get to high-school level math and learn what a proof is, you will understand.

i do,you don't!

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

So by your own definition, a "replicator" is anything that re-creates something? Cool... I'm a replicator... awesome to know..

moron! i didn't say that,so stop inventing stuff!

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

He included the Scar and a few other tibits he found "interesting"... nothing more.

and what the fuck is Scar and it's connection to Star Wars?

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ProphetofWisdom

"Hey!"* Hits Kittamaru in the side of the head with cane* I just gave proof two or three pages ago close to the bottom of the page with an ISD being vaproized by an 800 meter long HTL bolt in the Battle of Endor which proves at least low GT from the highest G Canon source!

I missed that - I have been glazing over your posts since you become factual

I will strive to go back and read them

I have not said anything more on Irkens Vs. Xeelee or Time Lords etc. since you agreed they at least stand a fair chance at winning even if its not clear cut. I said show proof of Trek debaters claiming that they could take on teh Xeelee. You already shot yourself in the feet once with this by showing one dumb person and all the others saying he doesn't know a thing about the Culture.

It is possible the energy packs were not fully charged at that time, and also it would be insanity for him to use multi-hundred Gigajoule shots on the very platform he is on. This is also a case where Move G canon> Novel G canon comes into play since we see dozens or even hundreds of shots later when in the asteroid field.

Actually, that's covered. If that was the case, however, that would mean it would take something like 97,000 seconds for the packs to fully charge after being activated... not very efficient. Obviously something is wrong here - either a "low power" shot completely drained the packs, or they take a rediculously long time to charge, neither of which make sense.

That does not matter as the Leland Chee (Correct if I got his name wrong) the guy in charge of canon had said there is Film Only Cannon and Film + EU. And it still would not chance the fact that C still counts as canon unless contradicted by the movies.

Yes, but some of their crap is visibly contradicted in the movies

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

I dont' HATE warsies... I just worry about them and pity them... they are so wrapped in their false visions that when those visions fail, they become the kind of people that go around shooting up schools and other things because "BIG GUNS SOLVE EVERYTHING HURR!!!!!!"

did I said that? you are so superficial!
i don't need YOU'LL pity,you need some!

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by George1

first of all,i respect Star Trek,what i DO hate is Trekkies,especial hardcore trekkies who even with the proof in they'll face,they don't admit it and simply
deny that star wars is better than star trek!
now for what implies "maturity", if you would be "mature",you would NOT,
i repeat NOT be involved in a childish argument like this!!!
i AM childish and that excuses me,like other,but claim you are mature...
then i ask you again:why do you care if you are so "mature"?
and this planet is already going down the toilet,it's doing so for a long long time, before both Gene and Lucas were born,and no sci.fi,neither ST nor SW,
will do any difference!

Star Wars isn't better than trek, on multiple level.

SW is a fast paced action-adventure ride (with brother on sister action no less) that is fun to watch but should NOT be analyzed deeper than what you see. It was never MEANT for that.

Star Trek, on the other hand, had a deeper meaning when Gene created it - the advancement of mankind, in both racial and gender equality (ever wonder why, during the time Star Trek came out, there was a BLACK WOMAN, a GAY CHINESE DUDE, and an ALIEN on the BRIDGE of the federation FLAGSHIP? Yeah, equality dude) among other things, including trying to further mankind's desire to improve itself. It wasn't about the explosions and fights and "technobabble", it was about the experience. Seeing mankind overcome obstacles we couldn't even imagine prompted many to go into the sciences... hell, Scotty (James Doohan) had an experience that changed his life and the life of a suicidal high school girl - long story short, the man reached out to her, paying for her airfare and tickets to go to the conventions where they would talk for hours on end. In the end, she became a physics teacher! She credits him alone for saving her life... that's something to be proud of man...

Trek is a different beast altogether from Star Wars... and debates like this... they're painful for me because people try to read so deeply into little things (like the Survivors episode) that were nothing more than plot devices or mistakes on the writers part - of course there are mistakes, the series ran for what, seven seasons?

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-15-10, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by George1

moron! i didn't say that,so stop inventing stuff!

yes you did. Others words implied that, also. So he's right.

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Yes, but some of their crap is visibly contradicted in the movies

no it's not,so go WATCH the movies,after you finish collecting star trek CD's!

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by George1

did I said that? you are so superficial!
i don't need YOU'LL pity,you need some!

heh, nice spelling, yes, you do need my pity. Go back to elementary school and learn some basic grammar and spelling please.

And did I ever claim you specifically were like that? No... hm, they say a defensive mind is a guilty one...

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by George1

and what the fuck is Scar and it's connection to Star Wars?

The scar... you know... lil pus anikin? The scar on his face? It just "magically" appeared, never explained, in the movies... (yes, I watched the prequel trilogy, as absolutely terrible as it was... it ruined Star Wars forever... I fear the day he decides to make a sequel trilogy)

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypse2001

yes you did. Others words implied that, also. So he's right.

i did not! you people might THINK of them as such,but i don't think like that,
neither did i ever implied that!
how about ASKING me what did i meant with those sentences,BEFORE you make
conclusions?????

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by George1

that has ONLY cannon material on it!

i do,you don't!

No, it doesn't have CANON material - in fact, those wikis have NOTHING from the movies! Most of them take from FAN WRITTEN BOOKS at BEST!

If you want canon, watch the "Star Wars Christmas Spectacular" to see just how your god Lucas works... I dare you. IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY!

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

heh, nice spelling, yes, you do need my pity.

not a dog wouldn't

!
Go back to elementary school and learn some basic grammar and spelling please.

you go back to kindergarten and learn how to read!

And did I ever claim you specifically were like that? No... hm, they say a defensive mind is a guilty one...

so i am not included as a WARISH??

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by George1

i did not! you people might THINK of them as such,but i don't think like that,
neither did i ever implied that!
how about ASKING me what did i meant with those sentences,BEFORE you make
conclusions?????

*chuckles* I'm just going to ignore you kid... come back when you're a little more mature and have taken a class or two in actual debating skills. A logic class (a COLLEGE logic class) would serve you well... fallacious reasoning is a deep trap, and you and ricery have fallen deep into it's pit.

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-15-10, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Star Trek, on the other hand, had a deeper meaning when Gene created it - the advancement of mankind, in both racial and gender equality (ever wonder why, during the time Star Trek came out, there was a BLACK WOMAN, a GAY CHINESE DUDE, and an ALIEN on the BRIDGE of the federation FLAGSHIP? Yeah, equality dude) among other things, including trying to further mankind's desire to improve itself..........

japanese.

Well, Sulu wasn't, but George Takei WAS/IS

But basically it was a cultural equality thing.

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by George1

not a dog wouldn't
you go back to kindergarten and learn how to read!

so i am not included as a WARISH??

not a dog wouldn't...

you go back to kindergarten and learn how to read.

As a warish?

Good god man... have you had a STROKE? Those make absolutely NO SENSE to anyone who speaks English.

**Kittamaru** · 03-15-10, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypse2001

japanese.

Well, Sulu wasn't, but George Takei WAS/IS

But basically it was a cultural equality thing.

Ah, my mistake - I thought he was Korean or Chinese, lol. Eh, either way, he wasn't a white american male, which was the point I was trying to make

**George1** · 03-15-10, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

No, it doesn't have CANON material - in fact, those wikis have NOTHING from the movies! Most of them take from FAN WRITTEN BOOKS at BEST!

all of star trek excepting TOS nnd TNG(first half)
is fan written! all writing staff of all enterprise are fans,no other idiot would
want such a pathetic job!

If you want canon, watch the "Star Wars Christmas Spectacular" to see just how your god Lucas works... I dare you. IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY!

obviously,you don't know why it is called "Star Wars Christmas Spectacular"
by now