Star Wars vs Star Trek

[Shogun]

The Borg can't adapt to kinetic and explosive damage. The Empire can just use its explosives against the Borg, they got plenty of devices that make a really big boom, and arm all it troops with projectile weapons, the Verpine rifle will probably kill mutiple Borgs at once because they are so tightly packed together and never evade. Lightsabers, vibroblades, force pikes .ect will do great in personal combat. Ion Cannons, Alpha Red, and other biological weapons will also be effective. Plus, they can't adapt that quickly to overkill weapons, they will be gone from this universe before they have to chance to adapt to it. Its also funny how the borg never adapt to battlefield tactics, only specific weapons. Just for the record Banking Clan frigate is one of the most crappy ships in Star Wars. Star Wars have just the thing to deal with mindless drones like Borgs: battle droids. They just sit back and watch miracles happen, hell even the B-1 droid is smarter then a borg. A borg is pretty much a vegetable ( I don't mean the food, I mean a brain dead person that is still alive ) that can walk.

[Apocalypse2001]

don't know right now,but it might be possible!
anything has it's weakness,and nothing can adapt to everything!
like bullets,they can't adapt to them!!!
which makes me wonder why did Starfleet didn't use bullet guns when fighting
against the Borg (not with ships,but say boarding parties)?

no no.. I mean I didn't understand what you were saying in that sentence. Your syntax was garbled

Projectile weapons were obsolete. There's a higher risk of friendly fire with projectile weapons. If the fired an 21st(?) century automatic weapon inside the ship, the richochet's would kill even their own people!!

[Apocalypse2001]

The Borg can't adapt to kinetic and explosive damage. The Empire can just use its explosives against the Borg, they got plenty of devices that make a really big boom, and arm all it troops with projectile weapons, the Verpine rifle will probably kill mutiple Borgs at once because they are so tightly packed together and never evade. Lightsabers, vibroblades, force pikes .ect will do great in personal combat. Ion Cannons, Alpha Red, and other biological weapons will also be effective. Plus, they can't adapt that quickly to overkill weapons, they will be gone from this universe before they have to chance to adapt to it. Its also funny how the borg never adapt to battlefield tactics, only specific weapons. Just for the record Banking Clan frigate is one of the most crappy ships in Star Wars. Star Wars have just the thing to deal with mindless drones like Borgs: battle droids. They just sit back and watch miracles happen, hell even the B-1 droid is smarter then a borg. A borg is pretty much a vegetable ( I don't mean the food, I mean a brain dead person that is still alive ) that can walk.

the problem with the droids, is once the Borg adapt to the weapons fire, it'll probably be a stale mate. Unless the shots richochet off of somewhere to hit the droids. Remember the droids have NO defence against their own weapons fire. I think the Jedi already showed that.

[George1]

what the hell are you talking about?! There's example after example that the Federation and other species in the Alpha Quadrant ALONE that have force fields with power on a gigawatt level! read up before making rediculous statements.

a petaton is far more than gigaton!WAY MORE!
from wikipedia:
"The energy released by the explosion of one petaton of TNT, 4.18 × 1024 joules, is equivalent to the energy of an earthquake of magnitude 12 on the Richter Scale, or to the energy of a 60 km rocky meteorite impacting the earth at 25 km/s."

[George1]

no no.. I mean I didn't understand what you were saying in that sentence. Your syntax was garbled

sorry for that!

Projectile weapons were obsolete. There's a higher risk of friendly fire with projectile weapons. If the fired an 21st(?) century automatic weapon inside the ship, the ricochet's would kill even their own people!!

ricochet's????how powerful is the ricochet's of a machine gun?

[George1]

the problem with the droids, is once the Borg adapt to the weapons fire, it'll probably be a stale mate. Unless the shots richochet off of somewhere to hit the droids. Remember the droids have NO defence against their own weapons fire. I think the Jedi already showed that.

the problem is that battle droids have a quite simple blaster rifle,that has no
coherent or stable frequency for the Borg to adapt!

[CheskiChips]

don't know right now,but it might be possible!
anything has it's weakness,and nothing can adapt to everything!
like bullets,they can't adapt to them!!!
which makes me wonder why did Starfleet didn't use bullet guns when fighting
against the Borg (not with ships,but say boarding parties)?

I think they did in Enterprise - First Contact

[Apocalypse2001]

the problem is that battle droids have a quite simple blaster rifle,that has no
coherent or stable frequency for the Borg to adapt!

well you can't say that. If what you say were true, each blast would not be consistent everytime. The droids would need something to stabalize the blaster fire (the energy) or else they would damage themselves.

[Apocalypse2001]

I think they did in Enterprise - First Contact

mmm... yeah the time period is before the Federation was established so that seems logical.

[Shogun]

the problem with the droids, is once the Borg adapt to the weapons fire, it'll probably be a stale mate. Unless the shots richochet off of somewhere to hit the droids. Remember the droids have NO defence against their own weapons fire. I think the Jedi already showed that.

I mean if they used bio weapons, flamethrowers ( should be called plasmathrowers ) and explosives. The droids can just use melee weapons too, just charge at the borg. Projectile weapons can be use on planetary surface, not on ships.

[Apocalypse2001]

ricochet's????how powerful is the ricochet's of a machine gun?

no lol richochet is what happens when a projectile reflect off of a denser surface. So the richochet of the projectiles would be calculated according to speed, density of surface, angle. etc. And considering how strong the material is inside the ship, all hell would break loose lol
For example, in the film "After the Sunset" with Pierce Brosnen, Salma Hayek, Woody Harrelson, etc. When Woody's character was trapped inside the government vehicle, he fired off a shot from his revolver(?). And the bullet richoche'd inside the van. So if we could make material like that in the 20th Century, imagine what it would be like in th 24th!! not a pretty sight.

[George1]

well you can't say that. If what you say were true, each blast would not be consistent everytime. The droids would need something to stabalize the blaster fire (the energy) or else they would damage themselves.

no,cuz it is plasma,not energy!
it fires through a bottle effect,relishing all the blast forward!
the droid needs nothing,cuz the blaster already incorporates it!

[Shogun]

Its funny how Federation person doesn't try to use melee weapons when they get boarded by Borgs.

[George1]

no lol richochet is what happens when a projectile reflect off of a denser surface. So the richochet of the projectiles would be calculated according to speed, density of surface, angle. etc. And considering how strong the material is inside the ship, all hell would break loose lol

if you can's fire on a silly target like a Borg! hard to miss!

For example, in the film "After the Sunset" with Pierce Brosnen, Salma Hayek, Woody Harrelson, etc. When Woody's character was trapped inside the government vehicle, he fired off a shot from his revolver(?). And the bullet richoche'd inside the van. So if we could make material like that in the 20th Century, imagine what it would be like in th 24th!! not a pretty sight.

just aim better!

[Shogun]

True, Borgs are almost stationary target. A perfect way to defend againt Borg boardings:

First, you steal off the section being boarded. Second, fill that area will bio weapons, chemical weapons and spray it with plasma. Finally, send droids in there with melee weapons to finish them off.

Plus, there are MUCH better battle droids then the B-1 series.

[Apocalypse2001]

if you can's fire on a silly target like a Borg! hard to miss!


just aim better!

you still don't understand what I'm saying.....you're not looking at the bigger picture, you're thinking in a box.

[Apocalypse2001]

True, Borgs are almost stationary target. A perfect way to defend againt Borg boardings:

First, you steal off the section being boarded. Second, fill that area will bio weapons, chemical weapons and spray it with plasma. Finally, send droids in there with melee weapons to finish them off.

Plus, there are MUCH better battle droids then the B-1 series.

well first of all, even if you seal off a section they will get through. Remember many Borg also have weapons attachments instead of hands

[Shogun]

It won't take long before the borgs are dead, so the blast doors are more than enough. If they get through, then it is killing spree time. The borgs are so stupid than the droids can just use the force pikes like the Macedonians ( force pikes are very powerful, you can TAP somebody in the shoulder at medium power and it can take their arm off completely, very powerful weapons very tough too, it can fend off a lightsaber for a while ), and just march forward

[George1]

you still don't understand what I'm saying.....you're not looking at the bigger picture, you're thinking in a box.

no,juts shoot,where a protective armor,and done!

[George1]

well first of all, even if you seal off a section they will get through. Remember many Borg also have weapons attachments instead of hands

haha,no use!
they will be outnumbered anyway and shot to death!