Star Wars vs Star Trek

[Shogun]

Do you realize that YOU are the one who is deluded?? You wrote "foul language" up there!!! jesus christ

I thought you were Christian, remember the ten commandments in Deuteronomy 5:

Number 3: ( from the King James version ) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Number 9: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
neighbour. ( Your neighbour doesn't mean your next door neighbour, it also includes all human beings )

The Lord Jesus Christ teaches us to be humble and bless the humble, therefore we must be humble.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall possess the earth.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Do not forget the beatitudes.

We will be immortal AFTER the final judgment, before then we are humans. Saying you are beyond human is disrespectful to god, because in the bible it says we are created in the image of god.

This is not just a reply for that one its also for the your reply for my previous comment. I am a devoted Mormon, two can play at that game.

[danny burton]

Star Trek takes its science far too seriously... which would be fine if it was any good but it's as scientifically accurate as Dan Brown. As soon as they tried to fire up their engines in anger, bits would fall off.

the force ftw.

[Apocalypse2001]

Or are you so dishonest you can't read?
Edit: you do realise that false accusations of lying could result in you being banned? Unless I get an apology, of course.

Excuse me??!?! So now you threatening me too????!
what apology?? YOU are the one who started this whole mess, by insulting and attacking my idea by telling me it's deluded nonsense!!!!!!!! I was having a civilized discussion about Vader, the Prophets and souls, and after, you popped in out of nowhere and told me I'm flooding the forum with bullshit!! and that you'd "call me on it". If anything YOU should be the one to apologize to me!

So you deny I use your words? As they are written? In the order they are written?

Why are you deliberately changing what I said? Again you are making me repeat myself. Yes you changed my syntax by cutting off certain sentences midsentence thereby changing the meaning of what I said. And thereby showing those sentences with modified syntax, out of context!!

Nope: you've made claims and assertions but failed completely to show any validation.

See?? and then you want ME to apologize??? This sentence is evidence that you are continually perpetuating something without cause!! Simply to satisfy your boredom with rediculous arguments!!

Wrong, you posted insupportable (and so far unsupported) nonsense: I called you on it. You continued to post nonsense.

It's not your place to call me on my nonsense when I never insulted you or the others with the idea that I presented. That is your ego talking. Also, because it's NOT your call as to what ideas someone presents, you have violated my civil rights.

Go ahead: where have I altered it? You don't need screens shots, unless you've edited your posts.

Oh wow...you pretend to maintain this site, and yet you forget that the edits have time posts.....you really are a piece of work, you know that?

No, you've made claims which you have failed to support, except with more unsupported claims.

Again you were the one that started this whole "unsupported claims" business instead of leaving us alone with our innocent discussion of souls in SW/ST

[Apocalypse2001]

I thought you were Christian, remember the ten commandments in Deuteronomy 5:

Number 3: ( from the King James version ) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Number 9: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
neighbour. ( Your neighbour doesn't mean your next door neighbour, it also includes all human beings )

The Lord Jesus Christ teaches us to be humble and bless the humble, therefore we must be humble.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall possess the earth.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Do not forget the beatitudes.

We will be immortal AFTER the final judgment, before then we are humans. Saying you are beyond human is disrespectful to god, because in the bible it says we are created in the image of god.

This is not just a reply for that one its also for the your reply for my previous comment. I am a devoted Mormon, two can play at that game.

Well considering the fact that I had a few friends that were destroyed by Mormons, I won't comment further.

[Apocalypse2001]

as Dywyddyr: here the page where you started telling me this crap (i.e. you are resposible for perpetuating a stupid argument, and wasting everybodies time):
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=7435&page=880

[Newyorker121594]

Star wars would must definitely win

[Dywyddyr]

Excuse me??!?! So now you threatening me too????!

I'm pointing out that calling someone a liar with no reason to do so is a bannable offence.

what apology?? YOU are the one who started this whole mess, by insulting and attacking my idea by telling me it's deluded nonsense!!!!!!!!

You accused me of lying. I'm still waiting for you to either show I did or apologise.

I was having a civilized discussion about Vader, the Prophets and souls, and after, you popped in out of nowhere and told me I'm flooding the forum with bullshit!! and that you'd "call me on it". If anything YOU should be the one to apologize to me!

You posted bullshit, I pointed out that it's bullshit.

Why are you deliberately changing what I said? Again you are making me repeat myself. Yes you changed my syntax by cutting off certain sentences midsentence thereby changing the meaning of what I said. And thereby showing those sentences with modified syntax, out of context!!

Wrong again: syntax is the structure, which I did not alter. I quoted your words and didn't alter the structure or the context.

See?? and then you want ME to apologize??? This sentence is evidence that you are continually perpetuating something without cause!! Simply to satisfy your boredom with rediculous arguments!!

You made erroneous statements as if they were fact, you made erroneous accusations.

It's not your place to call me on my nonsense when I never insulted you or the others with the idea that I presented. That is your ego talking. Also, because it's NOT your call as to what ideas someone presents, you have violated my civil rights.

It's a public forum: posters spouting bullshit will get called on it. Civil rights? What civil rights do you think you have on an internet forum?
Oh yeah, the "right" to make false accusations of lying and spout bullshit while ignoring that it has been shown to be bullshit.

Oh wow...you pretend to maintain this site, and yet you forget that the edits have time posts.....you really are a piece of work, you know that?

And your point would be? I'm fully aware that edits have times on them: and I'm STILL waiting for you to either apologise or show where I lied.

Again you were the one that started this whole "unsupported claims" business instead of leaving us alone with our innocent discussion of souls in SW/ST

If you'd bothered actually reading my first post in reply to you I called you bullshit that has nothing at all to do with SW or ST - in other words YOU went off-topic with nonsensical claims.

[Apocalypse2001]

So you wanted prove of your behavior, here it is:

You're deluded because you claim not to be human.

You attack someones ideas by attacking THEM for no reason.

Nope, you're an idiot. Why should I spend any money when you can't even make a start on defending your point? Again: what would you do in person that you can't do here?

This, is an insult. Since you are unwilling to learn from me, and for your ignorance, I direct you to the library of Alexandria in Egypt.

You keep saying that: how would you show me?

Again for your stubborness and ignorance, I direct you to a library.

Nope, it's because you're a deluded idiot.

This is ANOTHER insult. You attack me, instead of discussing, like a civilized person, about my initial idea. But since you like insults instead of understanding, AGAIN I direct you to the Library of Alexandria in Egypt. And to the Apocryphal Gospels.

I note also that you don't have the decency or grace to acknowledge that you were shown to be wrong about belief (and using your own reference at that). Is this how you normally debate?
I'll ask again: are you blind or dishonest? At the moment dishonesty seems to be the answer. Maybe it's an integral factor of your delusion.

Debates are not attacking the PERSON, but providing knowledge with knowledge. Something which you have NOT done.

Ah I see your comprehension is also limited.
I'm not "trying to control your language", I'm simply pointing out that instead of trying to provide supporting evidence you've resorted instead to foul language.

By editing seprate sentences and separating them from the explanation, you are being fascist and are controlling my language.

1) It wasn't an insult it was an observation.

It was not an observation because you continuously made insults

I do like to limit the amount of delusional bullshit that appears on the forum. It's not "insecurity", it's forum policy.

This, is called fascism. YOU blew it out of porposion instead of providing your own knowledge to refute what I said. BUT YOU HAVE NOT!

I actually stated "gross insults" which you replied to with the comment on controlling.

This was the lie.........

Ah I see your comprehension is also limited.
I'm not "trying to control your language", I'm simply pointing out that instead of trying to provide supporting evidence you've resorted instead to foul language.

.........and this is what you actually said. So you are going to tell me I'm making false accusations??? I don't think so.

Since I quote your words exactly (and respond to each point therein), how am I censoring?

No you don't. You take individual sentences out of context, without including the explantations. Therefore you are censoring.

No, you posted arrant nonsense and I pointed out that it was such.

AGAIN!! ANOTHER insult, without provided your own knowledge. And you STILL have not provided anything to refute my point.

So there you have it. As you can see, my accusations are not lies, delusional, OR false.

next topic please.

[Dywyddyr]

So you wanted prove of your behavior, here it is

No, I wanted proof of the lies you claimed I told.

You attack someones ideas by attacking THEM for no reason.

So you don't think claiming not to be human is deluded?

This, is an insult.

That insult came after yours...

Since you are unwilling to learn from me, and for your ignorance, I direct you to the library of Alexandria in Egypt.
Again for your stubborness and ignorance, I direct you to a library.

YOU claimed that YOU could demonstrate your points, if you're now claiming that I can get the information from books please indicate which ones.

This is ANOTHER insult. You attack me, instead of discussing, like a civilized person, about my initial idea.

I refer you to my comment above on not being human.

But since you like insults instead of understanding, AGAIN I direct you to the Library of Alexandria in Egypt. And to the Apocryphal Gospels.

Why?

Debates are not attacking the PERSON, but providing knowledge with knowledge. Something which you have NOT done.

Wrong again: YOU made the initial nonsensical claim and so far you have provided nothing to substantiate those claims.

By editing seprate sentences and separating them from the explanation, you are being fascist and are controlling my language.

Wrong. I quote your words as they were written.

This, is called fascism. YOU blew it out of porposion instead of providing your own knowledge to refute what I said. BUT YOU HAVE NOT!

I refer you to the forums rules, specifically:

C. Stating Opinions
If you have an opinion, back it up with evidence, a valid argument and even links and references if possible.

You have provided no knowledge, merely nonsensical opinion with no supporting evidence (and in fact an opinion which contradicts what is currently known). When (if at all) are YOU going to provide any support for those opinions?

This was the lie.........

I see: so now you've changed your mind on what my "lie" was about. Your original claim was that I lied about my comment on foul language.

No. Well obviously you are lieing. Oh and don't edit your previous post. I already have a screen shot of it.

Post 17679.

.........and this is what you actually said. So you are going to tell me I'm making false accusations??? I don't think so.

You have made numerous false accusations.

No you don't. You take individual sentences out of context, without including the explantations. Therefore you are censoring.

One more time: give an example of where I have altered the wording (you claimed I changed the syntax) or even the meaning.

AGAIN!! ANOTHER insult, without provided your own knowledge. And you STILL have not provided anything to refute my point.

So you consider that calling arrant nonsense arrant nonsense is an insult?
I haven't provided anything to "refute your point" since you haven't provided anything other than deluded misinformed opinion.

So there you have it. As you can see, my accusations are not lies, delusional, OR false.

Actually I have just shown that you can't even keep your false accusations straight, in other words you're even less honest than I had originally taken you for.

[Apocalypse2001]

you ask for support and I have already offered it to you at least 3 times. Since you are unwilling to learn in person (yes that is "providing...") I directed you to libraries including the one in Alexandria. So you can understand SOMETHING.....
And I won't answer your other questions since you are unwilling to search for the information yourself. Someone who is unwilling to take up, said person, on their CONTINUOUS offers, they must search for the knowledge himself. End of story.
And I'm sorry you are sooooo unwilling to learn.

[Dywyddyr]

you ask for support and I have already offered it to you at least 3 times.

No you haven't.
Unless you count "come to meet me and I'll show you" as support.

Since you are unwilling to learn in person (yes that is "providing...") I directed you to libraries including the one in Alexandria. So you can understand SOMETHING.....

And when I get to the library which books should I read?

And I won't answer your other questions since you are unwilling to search for the information yourself. Someone who is unwilling to take up, said person, on their CONTINUOUS offers, they must search for the knowledge himself. End of story.
And I'm sorry you are sooooo unwilling to learn.

Wrong again: there is no information to look up because you're spouting nonsense.

I note you failed completely to address any of my other points (e.g. the apology OR the proof that I lied).
You're a deluded dishonest troll.

[George1]

hi again!
is this think solved???or not?

[Pinwheel]

I cant belive 42 people voted for Spaceballs.

[Apocalypse2001]

No you haven't.
Unless you count "come to meet me and I'll show you" as support.

well duh. if someone tell you they can teach you in person and the other person does not want to, that's their problem.

And when I get to the library which books should I read?

umm...as much as you can.... I've already been there and have read about 1809 books, scrolls, microfiche etc.

Wrong again: there is no information to look up because you're spouting nonsense.

yes there is. Only if you have blinders on, like a horse, will you think that there is nothing to read.

I note you failed completely to address any of my other points (e.g. the apology OR the proof that I lied).
You're a deluded dishonest troll.

why apologize since you continue to name call? (note: I've already stopped with MY tantrum like behavior, unlike you)

my my my....continuing to throw insults that display tantrums, huh? OH WAIT! maybe you are going to say that's a lie too?
I'm sorry for whatever you think I should have apologized for. Which still seems nonexistent.

[Dywyddyr]

well duh. if someone tell you they can teach you in person and the other person does not want to, that's their problem.

Wrong: it just confirms that you're bullshitting.

umm...as much as you can.... I've already been there and have read about 1809 books, scrolls, microfiche etc.

1809 books?
I own more than three times that number.

yes there is. Only if you have blinders on, like a horse, will you think that there is nothing to read.

Wrong.

why apologize since you continue to name call? (note: I've already stopped with MY tantrum like behavior, unlike you)
my my my....continuing to throw insults that display tantrums, huh? OH WAIT! maybe you are going to say that's a lie too?
I'm sorry for whatever you think I should have apologized for. Which still seems nonexistent.

So you're not going to apologise for accusing me of lying? Or attempt to show where I did? You'd rather pretend you don't know, even after I have specifically quoted your accusation AND shown where you were wrong?
You'd prefer to continue in your dishonesty.

[Apocalypse2001]

Wrong: it just confirms that you're bullshitting.


1809 books?
I own more than three times that number.


So you're not going to apologise for accusing me of lying? Or attempt to show where I did? You'd rather pretend you don't know, even after I have specifically quoted your accusation AND shown where you were wrong?
You'd prefer to continue in your dishonesty.

...in the past 4 months.... --see how you faine superiority without asking other vital questions?

oh I didn't? so what the hell was that above?????????????

[Shogun]

Well considering the fact that I had a few friends that were destroyed by Mormons, I won't comment further.

I am just point out the facts, nothing more. Its all from the King James version, the version recognized in all of the Christian world. How did your friends get destroyed by us?

[George1]

this conversation has gotten way of track!
let's go back to the main idea: Vader would kick Kiri's ,Picard's and the others asses!

[Shogun]

I would love to see Kirk and Picard tried to do 1 on 1 combat with Vader.

[Apocalypse2001]

this conversation has gotten way of track!
let's go back to the main idea: Vader would kick Kiri's, Picard's and the others asses!

kiri??? who's Kiri??

ok that's silly, Picard would never fight hand to hand, especially at his age, unless he was pushed over the edge.