Star Wars vs Star Trek

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

If I'm not mistaken, they're clones... bred TO fight to the DEATH and WIN... or are you contradicting Scott now?

They are mostly soldiers.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

So in other words they won't be able to kill someone (intended or accidental) that is important for the future ??? Even there presence at some points in the timeline would be devastating. what would happen if by some sort of malfunction the cloak device would stop working and a whole army of Roman soldiers would see a spaceship or aliens ???? relativistic shielding is as ridiculous as timetravel itself. shields malfuntion for a second and it could be bye bye future. as for Temporal Prime derective. Janeway didn't really pay much attention to it because in saving seven of nine she worked for her own selfish needs. and yes she becomes a admiral lol

Pretty much everything is ridiculous when it comes to Sci Fi.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

This is getting so ridiculous.

Like Palpatine lying.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

So in other words they won't be able to kill someone (intended or accidental) that is important for the future ??? Even there presence at some points in the timeline would be devastating. what would happen if by some sort of malfunction the cloak device would stop working and a whole army of Roman soldiers would see a spaceship or aliens ???? relativistic shielding is as ridiculous as timetravel itself. shields malfuntion for a second and it could be bye bye future. as for Temporal Prime derective. Janeway didn't really pay much attention to it because in saving seven of nine she worked for her own selfish needs. and yes she becomes a admiral lol

They make some plans before going in the past...

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

Knowing what should happen doesn't mean shit when the event is altered is the slightest way.

Not really. Have you ever seen a single Star Trek episode?

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Well, a modern squadren would kill the ewoks...

Why?

The Empire is EVIL. If we took a modern land/air mixed battle group, the US Armed Forces would simply firebomb and/or napalm the Ewoks into oblivion, then mop up the rest with tanks and APC's supported with infantry... easy win.

WTF ??? If the troopers would have been aided by a tie-bomber squad they just had to hide in the bunker and let the tie's doe the rest. This is beside the point.
to make a comparison you must have the same conditions.

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

If I'm not mistaken, they're clones... bred TO fight to the DEATH and WIN... or are you contradicting Scott now?

No clone troopers are clones Stormtroopers are enlisted. Clones are indeed bred to follow orders no matter what. Stormtroopers are just mercanaries

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

Pretty much everything is ridiculous when it comes to Sci Fi.

lol point well taken

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

Like Palpatine lying.

Actually no, when you are able to fool the entire Jedi-counsel it is not so ridiculous lying to a wannabe Jedi like Luke.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

WTF ??? If the troopers would have been aided by a tie-bomber squad they just had to hide in the bunker and let the tie's doe the rest. This is beside the point.
to make a comparison you must have the same conditions.

An entire fleet near the planet and you can't even perform a bombardment... Besides, the plan was fairly good, but the stormtroopers are so stupid...

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

Not really. Have you ever seen a single Star Trek episode?

I bet i've seen startrek when you where in diapers. But i do have to say that i've watch only about 50% of all episodes. And believe me i'm a great fan of Voyager and DS9.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

Actually no, when you are able to fool the entire Jedi-counsel it is not so ridiculous lying to a wannabe Jedi like Luke.

If he was lying... But, really, why not an entire legion? It would be logical.

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

If he was lying... But, really, why not an entire legion? It would be logical.

When the Emperor Leaves his shuttle on the deathstar there is a Legion welcoming him. That is ten times the amount of troopers then those you see on endor.

I agree it would be logical that if you are defending your shield generator you should have a entire legion there at least. But don't forget that it was a trap.
The emperor just untherestamated the rebel force. If the ewoks didn't help the rebels none of discusion would take place because they wouldn't have a chance.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

I bet i've seen startrek when you where in diapers. But i do have to say that i've watch only about 50% of all episodes. And believe me i'm a great fan of Voyager and DS9.

I have seen about 90% of canon Trek, both TOS and TNG, when they first aired, every movie and every series. I hate Voyager and Enterprise because I think they are boring.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

When the Emperor Leaves his shuttle on the deathstar there is a Legion welcoming him. That is ten times the amount of troopers then those you see on endor.

I agree it would be logical that if you are defending your shield generator you should have a entire legion there at least. But don't forget that it was a trap.
The emperor just untherestamated the rebel force. If the ewoks didn't help the rebels none of discusion would take place because they wouldn't have a chance.

In a forest you can't see everything.

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

An entire fleet near the planet and you can't even perform a bombardment... Besides, the plan was fairly good, but the stormtroopers are so stupid...

of course they would be able a bombardement. even one tie-bomber could do the trick. but it is all plot.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

of course they would be able a bombardement. even one tie-bomber could do the trick. but it is all plot.

Maybe... And maybe not.

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

I have seen about 90% of canon Trek, both TOS and TNG, when they first aired, every movie and every series. I hate Voyager and Enterprise because I think they are boring.

Enterprise i didn't see, but Tng and Tos ds9 voyager and all 11movies. but i don't have the time to watch every single episode. Just finish 4 seasons of Farscape and curently watching season 2 of Andromeda. when finish i will watch season 3 and 4 of BSG. but i have 4kids and a demanding job so i don't have the time to watch everything.

**Lord Vasago** · 07-29-09, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

In a forest you can't see everything.

finally, that is the reason why the troopers failed.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-29-09, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

Enterprise i didn't see, but Tng and Tos ds9 voyager and all 11movies. but i don't have the time to watch every single episode. Just finish 4 seasons of Farscape and curently watching season 2 of Andromeda. when finish i will watch season 3 and 4 of BSG. but i have 4kids and a demanding job so i don't have the time to watch everything.

The same for me... But 4 is way too much, don't you think?