Star Wars vs Star Trek

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

the droids were even worse then the Jem'Hadar. they get killed to easy and have the firing control of a kindergarden kid. they are maybe as incompetent as redshirts if not more.

They are cannon fodders. Sep droids got an advantage, they are expendable. Manga Guards and SBDs are smarter.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

neat stuff. where can we see these babies in action?

Only in the Republic Commando series.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Then why didn't the Empire make use of it? That'd be FAR more effective than the Death Star, doncha think?

It is just a platform. The missile is the part that does the job.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

something like the internet IRL but wireless? how does it operate? i remember Vader ordering the SSD out of the asteroid field to get a clear transmition, but not much more then that.

Yeah. It is Star War's TV and Internet.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

useless in tactical engagement. unless you are into hyperspace highway construction business this "buster" weapons are of no consequence.

Well, they can take out big targets like systems with it.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

i while back there was this skywalker dude, bright kid. tried to use the centerthingy. go some 200-300 pages back. i think it did not end well.

I read it. He did pretty well, and I will try the Centerpoint again, I am no quitter and I am not going to let such a good resource go to waste. I guess I am not a fast learner

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

again look back some hundreds of pages. and ISD lost its tower for all practical purposes by an asteroid hit. a rather slow asteroid hit btw. as far as the personal shileds, you need to post a link. i remember the 6 movies and the CW cartoon and no trooper ever had a personal shield.

It is sad that the communications are knocked out, so that ISD probably have to abandon the search. Come on, they were in the asteroid field for days. I don't think they can afford to buy shields for millions of clone troopers when they have to buy ships and ammo, the Clone Wars is very economical. I am just making a guess that if droidieaks can use it, they can put it on a commando.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

which means bigger then a missile in this case.

The Sun Crusher is obviously bigger, but it is the missiles ( or torpedoes ) that do the job. It is like a WWI fighter, it is the machine guns that do the job.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

they kill the admirals cause they rule by terror. the result? the same as the pre-WW2 soviet union. uterly incompetent military staff.

What more do you expect from a Sith Lord? Of course the Empire is like that.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

so if one comic proves the shields are there and another says they are not, who's the hypocrite? that is why it's better to stick with the movies. they were all directly controlled by Lucas. no funny business.

I am just pointing out that if comics can be used, than all comics that doesn't directly contradict the films is canon.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

cause enough of them can do serious damage to it, maybe even destroy it if they are equiped with enough heavy proton torpedoes and ion cannons.

Exactly, the more weapons the more damage.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

so there is no holonet in Milky Way?

They can build one can't they? After all they are hiding the stations in hyperspace, so UFP can't touch it.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

trek higher caliber Moral wise ??? yeah right.

Well, even if I support SW, I have to agree that Trek have higher moral than the Sith controlled Star Wars. Republic under Palpatine used a slave army and send covert troopers after the deserters ( not for punishment, because punishment is used as a deterrent covert troops do it in secret so it is no deterrent ) and kill the clones that is too badly injured for even a office job, because no one leaves the GAR except in a body bag. Empire kill their own people without mercy too, and enslave non humans.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

maybe they can maybe they can't, the thing is they haven't. during the Bespin chase the relative movements of all ships clearly is nowhere near relative speeds, the same goes for the Tatooine chase. then again the departure angle view of NCC-1701 in TM shows such speeds, and that was impulse power.

Star Wars isn't designed to tell you all you need to know about its tech. It tells you about a war, and the downfall of Anakin Skywalker.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

oh if we go there i already see the outcome of the conflict.....both galaxies get turned into a combo of lush vegetables, planetary debrees and dead stars

But it is a matter of destroying you foe before you get killed. You see if a there will be a war, it is much more possible that Star Wars will be the invader, because they have the speed to do it. Star Wars will just hide a battle station the size of DS2 and a fleet to preserve Star Wars, in hyperspace and wait the war out. It is like a better version of nuclear bunkers.

**~~Saquist~~** · 01-22-09, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Uchiha Madara

It is sad that the communications are knocked out, so that ISD probably have to abandon the search. Come on, they were in the asteroid field for days. I don't think they can afford to buy shields for millions of clone troopers when they have to buy ships and ammo, the Clone Wars is very economical. I am just making a guess that if droidieaks can use it, they can put it on a commando.

The Tower was destroyed.
Droidieaks are huge. 9 ft tall and all tech. Let's not jumpt to conclusions about something that hasn't happend.

Originally Posted by Uchiha Madara

What more do you expect from a Sith Lord? Of course the Empire is like that.

I agree with Antaran, incompetent.

**~~Tnerb~~** · 01-22-09, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by antaran_1979

if it was prior the Clone War's i might have agreed. but later on, there is just to few of them.

My point exactly.

Rules have not been discussed.

If rules are discussed, Star Wars/Star Treck would either win or lose. All of Star Wars collide iwth all of Star Treck right? Well, what era? In the later era, you're actually very wrong. Luke Trains MILLIONS of Jedis. IDK if they are AS STRONG as they were in the past though (exageration on millions).

So, once again, it is an even hand UNTIL rules have been established.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Saquist

The Tower was destroyed.
Droidieaks are huge. 9 ft tall and all tech. Let's not jumpt to conclusions about something that hasn't happend.

I agree with Antaran, incompetent.

The dust simply covered the bridge, the asteroid might of chipped it. They were in that asteroid field for days. Sure they are, that is why they are the same size as most Jedi. Well Palpatine and Vader are Sith Lords, they don't care about subordinates as long as they get the job done. Vader favors stormtroopers over the admirals, so he doesn't care about the admirals.

**~~Saquist~~** · 01-22-09, 05:41 PM

Negative. It's been proven. The tower was destroyed.
why don't you show a picture of the droid to show your point.

**Uchiha Madara** · 01-22-09, 05:55 PM

They have been in there for days and days. What makes you think that asteroid just got a lucky shot while the other asteroids didn't?

Alright here is a picture.