Star Wars vs Star Trek

[Uchiha Madara]

Not if they're in a tractor beam... as shown in ANH... also, remember, UFP ships move at nearly .9 lightspeed at SUBLIGHT... far faster than anything we see in Star Wars.

But Star Wars move faster in hyperspace

[Kittamaru]

They have plenty of other ships to chose from.

You're missing the point...

toe to toe, a Defiant class Starship will kick the crap out of a Star Destroyer.

Why?

The Star Destroyer would never HIT it.

The Defiant can lay down a punishing barrage from it's pulse phaser batteries and NEVER have to worry about taking a single hit.

[Uchiha Madara]

Doesn't matter... still a special-designed SHIP.

So? they only need the missiles. It is like a machine gun mounted on a helicopter, it can changed onto another platfrom

[Kittamaru]

But Star Wars move faster in hyperspace

Which is useless because, unlike Warp, they cannot FIGHT in HyperSpace.

Also, Star Trek has co-axial warp and quantum slipstream, which allows NEAR INSTANT travel from point A to point B. Finally, Star Trek has the ability to Time Travel... the USS Relativity is the flagship of that fleet

[Uchiha Madara]

You're missing the point...

toe to toe, a Defiant class Starship will kick the crap out of a Star Destroyer.

Why?

The Star Destroyer would never HIT it.

The Defiant can lay down a punishing barrage from it's pulse phaser batteries and NEVER have to worry about taking a single hit.

They can pick big targets with SDs, and use smaller frigates to attack Defiant.

[Kittamaru]

So? they only need the missiles. It is like a machine gun mounted on a helicopter, it can changed onto another platfrom

Then why didn't the Empire make use of it? That'd be FAR more effective than the Death Star, doncha think?

[Uchiha Madara]

Which is useless because, unlike Warp, they cannot FIGHT in HyperSpace.

Also, Star Trek has co-axial warp and quantum slipstream, which allows NEAR INSTANT travel from point A to point B. Finally, Star Trek has the ability to Time Travel... the USS Relativity is the flagship of that fleet

How do you know? We never seen it fight in hyperspace, because the speed is too great, it is like two rockets fired one after the other, they can''t get in range. Star Wars use shields to stop it from time traveling. Anyways I have to go to sleep, bye.

[Kittamaru]

How do you know? We never seen it fight in hyperspace, because the speed is too great, it is like two rockets fired one after the other, they can''t get in range. Star Wars use shields to stop it from time traveling. Anyways I have to go to sleep, bye.

Star Wars doesn't time travel...

And you can't fight in HyperSpace because your weapons would hit yourself...

[antaran_1979]

1.Hives travel in Packs of at least 3 at most 12 that between 450 to 1800 fighters. No one carries or even has that many fighters.

2.Only Asfard or ancient shield tech (thus human) shields work in this way.

3.That is the nature of ancient technology. It uses vaccuum energy.

1. the SG engagements are really small scaled. i find this strange since, reports say the conflicts there span in 3 galaxies?
2. oh well that is another thing then. what determines the energy consumption then?
3. vacuum energy is not the same thing as power. in other words if you want infinite power you'll get one hell of math issues, i don't even want to think about it. the source of energy might be undepleatable, however this does not meant it's power output is infinite. actually for the power to be infinite, you need to release an infinite quantity of energy in a limited amount of time. this might result in a creation of a new universe. but that put a side, ST uses the vacuum energy (zero point energy) to power it's quantum torpedoes. in other words, the human shields in SG are on pair with the quantum torps in ST. i'd say this makes them quite beatable.

[antaran_1979]

I think you were talking about the Ori ships. The Earth ship never misses.

ah yes. sorry i can't distinguish the ships in SG yet.

[antaran_1979]

What makes you think high-powered ion cannons won't work?

ion cannons are a very odd device. they damage only the electronic systems on SW vessels and cause no structural damage. this means they are very low powered AND SW shields can't stop them or if they can then the shields are very low powered too. in comparison the shields in ST can stop supernovas and event horizon effects. a low level ion burst will do little to disrupt any ST system.

[antaran_1979]

1.Maybe they don't need to. They have good firepower and protection, it eliminates the need for maneuvering, because it is designed to fight and create fear, not to explore.
2. The bigger the ship the easier it is to pack more firepower. Plus they did make it smaller, well at least the Mon Cals did, the result is the Viscount. Same firepower ( 4000 heavy turbolasers, and ion cannons ), smaller ship and more cargo space.

1. sure they don't don't need to. there is no one to challenge them.
2. the bigger the ship the easier is to hit and the more difficult to compensate for its loss.

[antaran_1979]

Well, remember what Skywalker said after that? Yeah, I think you remember too. It is just a exclamation about how hard it is. Clones do use computers but droids have computers for brains.

it's bullseye 1 in (something) back home. they are not much bigger then 2 m. which kind of confirmes how bad the computers in SW are. it's funny how it was never brought to my attention before.

[antaran_1979]

On Endor, they are half old Jango clones, and half normal humans that is nothing compared to Fett-clones. Star Wars can just use droids, and only use clones for commando jobs.

the droids were even worse then the Jem'Hadar. they get killed to easy and have the firing control of a kindergarden kid. they are maybe as incompetent as redshirts if not more.

[antaran_1979]

Oh, I wasn't talking about Katarn's shields. I am talking about the Katarn armor the Republic Commandos wore

neat stuff. where can we see these babies in action?

[antaran_1979]

A communications system that Star Wars use. It have anything from entertainment to restricted military frequencies.

something like the internet IRL but wireless? how does it operate? i remember Vader ordering the SSD out of the asteroid field to get a clear transmition, but not much more then that.

[antaran_1979]

Sun Crusher only need to use one missile to destroy make a supernova.

useless in tactical engagement. unless you are into hyperspace highway construction business this "buster" weapons are of no consequence.

[antaran_1979]

The Centerpoint can let Star Wars use a good strategy, they can use a fleet of small frigates controlled by droids, and droid controlled old and battle scared Accalmators I-class to draw the attention of UFP ships then use Centerpoint to eliminate the decoy fleet as well as the UFP fleet. It would be a nice way to reuse, reduce and maybe recycle . See, the Republic think about the environment. They use the 3Rs in a new way that helps the war effort. Star Wars is so environmentally friendly. I somehow think that the UFP won't like that deal at all.

i while back there was this skywalker dude, bright kid. tried to use the centerthingy. go some 200-300 pages back. i think it did not end well.

[antaran_1979]

An asteroid never took out a SD, it simply disrupted its communications. They stayed in the asteroid field for days. ..................... Katarn armor probably have enough power to power a personal shield generator, and besides commandos can fight well even if there is a 40 kilo pack on his back ( without tech help ). Katarn armor can withstand hard vacuum, so air is no problem. And plus the Republic might let the commandos try out Alpha Red on the UFP.

again look back some hundreds of pages. and ISD lost its tower for all practical purposes by an asteroid hit. a rather slow asteroid hit btw. as far as the personal shileds, you need to post a link. i remember the 6 movies and the CW cartoon and no trooper ever had a personal shield.

[antaran_1979]

Sun Crusher was a prototype, plus the Sun Crusher is only the size of a starfighter.

which means bigger then a missile in this case.