10-17-08, 03:48 PM #13421
Question... who would win?
Darth Pleigus VS. Yoda?
Darth Sidious VS. The Borg
10-17-08, 04:40 PM #13422
10-17-08, 04:45 PM #13423
The Picard Maneuver
Picard ordered the Stargazer to make a short warp jump toward the attacking ship, outrunning the light of its own image coming from its previous location. The Ferengi were momentarily distracted by what appeared to be a second ship coming out of warp, providing the Stargazer with enough time to destroy them. The crippled Stargazer's crew abandoned ship in lifeboats and shuttlecraft and were recovered ten weeks later. Picard was court-martialed but cleared of wrongdoing.
*grins* That'd fuck up an ISD's sensors.
10-17-08, 04:47 PM #13424
10-17-08, 05:26 PM #13425
10-17-08, 08:19 PM #13426
Lol, watching the new clone warps episode...
I know EXACTLY how Trek would win:
Hack the navi-Computers of all wars ships with hyperdrives
Have them drive into a moon.
Lol, dumbass... clone wars IS cannon though... and it certainly is NOT helping War's case at all.
10-18-08, 05:18 AM #13427
Wait. The Borg, when first encountered, beat the crap out of the federation fleet. I dunno. The scale of the ships seems different from story to story to me. The enterprise seems to portray itself as the size of a star destroyer sometimes, but closer to the size of the millennium falcon at others. Maybe that's just the joy of TV. Star Wars vessels seem far more brobdignagian.
10-18-08, 08:44 AM #13428
drive the toughest tank against a mountain wall at 100mph and see what's left of it. lmao
hey what about ST armor? i know that voyager is not the best example on defence stats but i one episode they were targetted by an low tech ship (don't really know if it were phasers or lazers but it was weak) creating a hole in theyre shield allowing ansmaller vessel to go through an hit voyager in somesort of kamikaze run. uhm didn't they lose control of voyager in that episode lmao
imagine what a isd can acomplish. total info on St ships lmao
10-18-08, 08:54 AM #13429
the Q would look at STvsSW as we do at a good war-movie. pure entertainment. btw if you in someway can uptain Q weapons they can be killed. Look at the episode where Q wants a kid with Janeway creating a cival war.
Q are so easyly bored they just play games with ST and SW ffs.
and SW being the new toy they probably take good care of it. tossing away the old toys. were does that leave ST????? lmao with the rest of the garbage
10-18-08, 09:07 AM #13430
Oh fine then. Don't answer my geeky question
10-18-08, 11:10 AM #13431
Saxion, I'm not really sure if there is any difference between them.
10-18-08, 03:33 PM #13432
10-18-08, 03:54 PM #13433
2.i re-runed the movie. E-E WAS shielded. there are at least 4-5 offscreen hits that we can acount for and then 7 external shots. 4 hit the saucer 3 hit the hull section. it is tha last 1-2 that start causing structural damage. 1 takes down the warp core, the other hits the nacelle. it takes about 1 minute to get them up again though.
i think i posted the exact statisics some time ago.
3. i was never a big fan of the GCS. ever since i firs saw it back in 1989 i was like: meh, what have they done to my ship? :P i guess i was to hooked up on the old Constitution. but i like the Sovereign. it's allmost as preatty as the excelsior.
10-18-08, 03:57 PM #13434
10-18-08, 05:14 PM #13435
10-18-08, 10:28 PM #13436
However in the novelizations of the movies SW fleets use massive ammounts of Electronic Warfare. There's more jamming going on there there is power coming from a ST vessels warp drive. Targeting computers and scanners are largely useless in such situations. A Federation vessel would be lucky to hit itself in such an environment.
As for the Energy ratings supplied by Doctor Curtis, approved by Lucas and Lucasfilm they are completely supported by all forms of valid canon. The refutation of someone who is not part of Lucasfilm means less than nothing.
I honestly don't care about your fallacy comparisons. I've seen many examples of shieldless battleships, including the latest Malevolence which could not even protect its Ion Cannon, which I must say is an impressive weapon...if that slow ass bolt hits.
Further, we see countless ST battles where the shields are evidenced (a good example would be ST: Nemesis, wherein Enterprise E hull hugging shields were consistently evidenced until the Scimitar's many disruptors finally penetrated). What we DON'T see all the time in ST is the shots between 100% shields and 0% shields. What we also DON'T see in SW (movies/Clone Wars) is the 100% shield state. Not even a 10% shield state! Hell, even the Clone Wars series have not evidenced battleship shields as yet. Force shields in SW appears to be limited to ground troop advancement, small ships and internal protected systems.
1. The Q are amorphous beings. Their human forms are for the Starfleeters' benefit. Nowhere is it stated that the Q are the future state of humans.
2. A hazy definition of enlightened I must say Scott...you mean, the Q Continuum, would welcome a conquering warlike race, that still is susceptible to a 'dark side', dictatorships and god-awful AIs that can't see or aim?
3. If by some remote plausibility your confidence statement is accurate...it would be in the best interest of the Q Continuum to protect the Starfleeters from such an invasion...since they DO evolve into the Q Continuum (in your opinion).
10-18-08, 10:36 PM #13437
Warp Drive: Creates a warp bubbles around the craft and allows the vessel to move in real space at c+
Transwarp drive: Creates a transwarp conduit that allows a vessel to move a few hundred times faster than the fastest warp drive.
Hyper drive: creates a pandimensional rift that allows the vessel to slip into a parallel universe that does not conform to Einsteinian relativity. meaning you do not gain mass as you accelerate. This allows speeds in excess millions of times the speed of light,
"Jump to Lightspeed", "Gone to Light Speed", or "Past Light": Slang terms used for describing the jump to hyperspace.
10-18-08, 11:51 PM #13438
Here's a technical correction for you scotch:
Quantum Slipstream - the ability to move millions of lightyears in the span of a second.
Chroniton Drive - the ability to traverse decades instantaneously.
Battle Droids - incompetent wannabes that make C3P0 look like a good candidate for blaster upgrades! (they can't seem to hit an IMMOBILIZED target!)
ISD - Interstellar Space Debris
SSD - Super Space Debris
DS - Dead Shit
VSD - Variable Space Debris
Get the running gag on this...?
Give it up scotch... we have proven your "calculations" (and I use that term VERY loosely) to be wong (haha, I made a funny) time and time again! STOP SPOUTING TRASH.
10-18-08, 11:53 PM #13439
Oh, and here's a question - if you slip into an alternate universe via Hyperdrive... why can't you do it near a gravity well? For that matter, why can you run into stuff in realspace? If it were an "alternate" universe, you wouldn't have that problem. Oh, and also - your sensors wouldn't be blind. Why? Because obviously you're in another dimension that doesn't conform to physics, so the energy of your scanners would add their speed at Point of Exit from the vessel to the vessels current speed, thus accelerate AWAY from the vessel and be able to see ahead of it!
Either that, or you don't have a damned clue what you're talking about.
10-19-08, 02:08 PM #13440
allthough i do like looking at TNG i still prefer Voyager because it stays somewhat the same instead of TNG where they are weak in one episode and powerfull in the next.
The last spinoff can't intrest me though. The enterprise is more advanced than the later ones go figure
Of all Startrek spinoffs i like Deepspace9 the most. that spacestation is just awesome. Especially the episode where they are threatend by a whole Klingon fleet. the sheer firepower that DS9 can produce is just freaking awesome. I do believe it could hold a long time against SW. and thats just thumbs up.
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