05-15-08, 02:38 AM #11921
Skywalker - Centerpoint destroys a single system, yay for it.
Supernova destroys a 10-14 parsec area of space...
VOYAGER took a SUPERNOVA to the face and didn't FLINCH!
Thus, logic dictates, Voyager could easily survive Centerpoint.
I dismiss Centerpoint as a childrens toy in Trek speak...
05-15-08, 08:00 AM #11922
05-15-08, 08:48 AM #11923
Incorrect. The United Federation of Planets does indeed have a map of itself (an example of it is used in the Stellar Cartography room accessed in Star Trek Generations). That was the answer to Skywalkerjedi's question.
With respect to the Trek galaxy...the UFP might not have explored its entirety, however the Alpha and Beta quadrants are by and large mapped and documented. The Gamma and Delta quadrants are partially mapped largely thru the efforts of Sisko and Janeway's people respectively.
05-15-08, 09:21 AM #11924
not exactly well explored. the eposide"Encounter at Farpoint" is locate at Deneb "beyond weach lies a great unexplored region of the galaxy" is well inside the Alpha Quadrant. so even the Apha quadrant is not explored properly. it is my guess that after each peace treaty the major powers draw their borders in the way that thier "oficial" theritory encompases large unexplored areas. this would explain why they are never far from home and still exploring the unknown.
05-15-08, 09:30 AM #11925
Whether or not you define the quadrants as well explored, the UFP has a detailed map of itself (i.e. UFP planets, the Klingon Empire, distances, anomalies, appropriate shift factors etc). It was incorrect to assert that the Federation has no map.
05-15-08, 10:42 AM #11926
05-15-08, 02:05 PM #11927
Further, as Kitt said, unexplored regions are no worries since their sensors capture necessary data for Stellar Cartography or the equivalent starship section. Map generation is an evolutionary career in the UFP, esp considering galatic shifts, random anomalies etc.
And as I've stated, the Stellar Cartography facility indicates mapping technology is available to the UFP. Missing portions of a map does not indicate the absence of the map or the discipline altogether.
05-15-08, 03:13 PM #11928
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05-15-08, 05:13 PM #11931
2) Then there will be no point of this discussion, someone have to know where Milky Way is
3) They have plenty of this to trade, let me see........... a map of Rishi Maze perhapes.
4) So the Federation won't trade with hyperspace capable ships? or armed ships ? No, no I never said they will use a Star Destroyer to go trade, the Millienium Falcon will do fine
5) I bet the Federation will want a map of another galaxy ( Republic will give the Federation a map of Rishi Maze )
6) A map for a map, even trade
05-15-08, 05:16 PM #11932
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05-15-08, 05:26 PM #11936
"I don't think there's ever been a time in our recorded history when there wasn't a war going on somewhere."
 Pre-Republic era conflicts
Rakatan Civil War (25,200 BBY)
Hutt-Xim conflict (25,105–25,100 BBY)
Force Wars (25,100–25,000 BBY)
Unification Wars c.(25,000 BBY)
 Old Republic era
First Great Schism (24,500 BBY)
Tionese War (24,000 BBY)
Duinuogwuin Contention c.(15,500 BBY)
Pius Dea Crusades (12,000–11,000 BBY)
Hundred-Year Darkness (also known as the Second Great Schism) (7,000–6,900 BBY)
Great Hyperspace War (5,000 BBY)
Old Sith Wars (4,015–3,951 BBY)
Great Droid Revolution (4,015 BBY)
Great Sith War (4,000–3,996 BBY)
Mandalorian Wars (3,976–3,960 BBY)
Jedi Civil War (3,959–3,956 BBY)
First Sith Civil War (3,956–3,955 BBY)
First Jedi Purge (3,955–3,951 BBY)
Second Sith Civil War (3,951 BBY)
New Sith Wars c.(2,000–1,000 BBY)
 Rise of the Empire era
Mandalorian Civil War (60–34 BBY)
Stark Hyperspace War (44 BBY)
Yinchorri Uprising (32 BBY)
Invasion of Naboo (32 BBY)
Separatist Crisis (24–22 BBY)
Clone Wars (22–19 BBY)
Great Jedi Purge (19–0 BBY/ABY)
Galactic Civil War (2 BBY–19 ABY)
 Rebellion era
Galactic Civil War (continued)
Nagai-Tof War (4 ABY)
 New Republic era
Galactic Civil War (continued)
Imperial Civil War (4–12 ABY)
Black Fleet Crisis (16–17 ABY)
Almanian Uprising (17 ABY)
First Corellian Insurrection (18 ABY)
Second Imperium Crisis (23 ABY)
(All are concurrent)
 New Jedi Order era
Yuuzhan Vong War (25–30 ABY)
Swarm War (36 ABY)
 Legacy era
Confederation-Galactic Alliance War (40 ABY)
Sith-Imperial War (127–130 ABY)
Anti-Sith Insurgency (137 ABY—)
( My list only have MAJOR conflicts )
05-15-08, 05:28 PM #11937
05-15-08, 05:41 PM #11938
2. He is right, it is just his part of Star Wars end in Anakin's death
3. Let me find some examples : Ozzle, Piett ( before his command of the SSD ), Thrawn, and almost every Admiral. The Captains on the Star Destroyers are diffrently trained, even Baron Fel didn't command a Star Destroyer
4. All the Chancellers were Jedi before Seventh Battle of Ruusan, and the Jeid have a important place in the Senate. There is still Jedi Chancellers after Ruusan, but not as much
5. It can create a artifical gravity well to drain apon, or they just move the planet right beside the Centerpoint
6. If you give me the name of the country yes. I am in United States now, and if you give me the name of the country I bet a random person on the street can find it
7. I agree, civilian more then Military, but Centerpoint have an advantage, it can target a big fleet and thousands of ships are gone
8. Sun Crusher can make a supernova no problem ( 1 shot ) and it is the size of a starfighter
05-15-08, 07:43 PM #11939
05-15-08, 07:44 PM #11940
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