Star Wars vs Star Trek

[antaran_1979]

The how would Star Trek ships get out of Milky Way?

they don't. i can't remember of they ever did.

[antaran_1979]

It's an ISD, and not if the asteroid is closer to the camera then to the ship

also if I remember correctly, Antaran scaled the asteroid against the beam.

yup. but many SW people just ignore it.

[antaran_1979]

The Republic have the Loyalist Party ( a political party in the Galactic Senate ) and the Jedi to keep them from attacking. I do know that, it is not as worse as getting the Jedi Order knocking on your door with a lightsaber thats turned on. Or the Loyalist Party remove you from power and putting you in jail.

if Palpatine leads them there is no way of telling what will happen,

[Saquist]

Hyperdrive don't need any stars in order to work. I said the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances don't own the galactic barrier, the Chiss does. First there is two ways to get out of the galaxy:
1. Through Vector Prime
2. Using the Force
3. Use Sub-light entill the got out of the barrier

Lets see. Vector Prime should work. But Center Point still couldn't fire through it (in my estimation) However...The Vong did not travel through the barrier at Hyperspeeds but at sublight speeds.

Second...You've not proven that the Force would work.

Third Even if the Barrier has an end the Vong journey was at sub light the entire way from their Galaxy to the GFFA...so the whole issue of if you can get through is mute if it will take billions of years to travel from GFFA to the Milky Way.

I do know what it is.

Excellent. I thought so.

You said that the Force won't work in Milky Way, because nobody here ( that is before Star Wars scout ships comes ) have midicorians.

REally...I don't recall sayin the Force wouldn't work in the Milky Way. I remember saying that the Force might be a combination of the Four Forces of the universe and might manifest itself in similar ways. I do believe their use of the Force would be weaker in the Milky Way.

It is a short page, anyways I can provide proof, check the Behind the Scence, and the first paragragh.

So I was supposed to search the entire page for the information that would prove your claims?

And that is true.

Of course it is...you can believe whatever you want to believe.

[antaran_1979]

One Centerpoint fire on Earth will bring the Federation down to it's knees.

You got me begging you for mercy
Why won't you release me
You got me begging you for mercy
Why won't you release me
I said you better release me

[antaran_1979]

No they will be crushed into a coin and stored in the Galactic Musem. On the lable it will say " The renmants of the weakest star system ever encountered in galactic history ". Mabey they will do the same to other star systems in the Federation and mass produce the coin.

o well i guess that unsuprted claims always win the day over well documented ones...... when you are in the schoolyard....

[antaran_1979]

Sorry, still they have better turbolasers like Quad Turbolasers.

i know. i actually calculate how stronger they might be. what is your estemate? how much do you think i single heavy TL is stronger then a weak one?

[antaran_1979]

It always worked no matter what.

we spend 50 pages arguing how gravity wells impede with hyperdrives, and you, self proclaimed GOD of SW deside that they are no longer bothered by it?

[USS Athens]

Oh my god... almost 600 pages?!? About 100 of them are absolutely pure nonsense because of Skywalkerjedi.

[Challenger78]

and a lot of other people.

[SkywalkerJedi]

Weakest?!?

You repeat the same bullshit over and over again, we present proof. You completely ignore it, or are even stupid enough to think that the proof is pitiful and serves you in making ST look even worse.

I should report you to James...

None of the Star Wars civilizations have been crippled from a Centerpoint blast. They usally go and attack Corellia to take Centerpoint, unfortunartly Warp is too slow to go to Corellia quick enough, before it is recharged to full power.

[SkywalkerJedi]

Wait wait wait. All ISDs are the same though!?!

And yet there are all of these EU sources identifying them as:

Victory-class
Victory-II class
Imperial-class
Pellaeon-class



They all are the same, but contradict each other!!!

No no, ISD is Imperial-class. Star Destroyers are all diffrent.

[SkywalkerJedi]

i guess the wanna see what happenes. the experiment might help descover the missing links in the unification theory.

They won't know anything when everybody is dead....

[SkywalkerJedi]

Lets see. Vector Prime should work. But Center Point still couldn't fire through it (in my estimation) However...The Vong did not travel through the barrier at Hyperspeeds but at sublight speeds.

Second...You've not proven that the Force would work.

Third Even if the Barrier has an end the Vong journey was at sub light the entire way from their Galaxy to the GFFA...so the whole issue of if you can get through is mute if it will take billions of years to travel from GFFA to the Milky Way.

1. Vector Prime have no disturbance at all
2. I said they would wait entill they got out of the barrier, not the whole way.
3. Or they rip a hole using Centerpoint

REally...I don't recall sayin the Force wouldn't work in the Milky Way. I remember saying that the Force might be a combination of the Four Forces of the universe and might manifest itself in similar ways. I do believe their use of the Force would be weaker in the Milky Way.

Sorry, it might be someone else that said it. The only power will not work is to sense people ( that doesn't include ships ).

So I was supposed to search the entire page for the information that would prove your claims?

I will qoute it for you.




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[SkywalkerJedi]

o well i guess that unsuprted claims always win the day over well documented ones...... when you are in the schoolyard....

Centerpoint can crush a system. I love to see what the Federation will do when their fleets start to disapper ( and systems ), and their stars and planets start to explode. Anyways, the Federation never took on anything as powerful as Centerpoint Station.

[SkywalkerJedi]

i know. i actually calculate how stronger they might be. what is your estemate? how much do you think i single heavy TL is stronger then a weak one?

About 1000x I think. Quad is four times the Heavy Turbolaser.

[SkywalkerJedi]

we spend 50 pages arguing how gravity wells impede with hyperdrives, and you, self proclaimed GOD of SW deside that they are no longer bothered by it?

HoloNet is not bothered by it. HoloNet transmissions can enter hyperspace while in the atmosphere of a planet.

[Sardonic Crisis]

can not be confirmed. the nature of ST barrier is..... hmmm..... i rather not go into this one

So what exactly is the galactic barrier in ST? Dune has shown that the foldspace engines can take a person to an entirely different universe (granted it was the herbert/anderson duo that said it so it is secondary canon), in hunters of dune, duncan idaho took the no-ship to another universe to avoid the Enemy.

Then you have to take into account the multigalactic nature of dune. in any empire the limits of that empire's range extends only as far as their FTL will transport them to the fringe in sufficient time to keep control. Dune obviously shows it can travel between galaxies.... so what makes ST galactic barrier all that amazing?

EDIT:
Thank you btw for those links... although i'm not sure which parameters i should use.

[Sardonic Crisis]

Centerpoint can crush a system. I love to see what the Federation will do when their fleets start to disapper ( and systems ), and their stars and planets start to explode. Anyways, the Federation never took on anything as powerful as Centerpoint Station.

Center point is a moot point. Dune would have its way with it because:
1. you can't track dune ships due to no-fields
2. all it would take is a single untrackable fleet to go in and destroy the station.
3. or maybe one guild navigator doing a suicide jump into it with a giant heighliner

oh and if you are questioning how they would find the damn thing think about it..... prescient people, prescient navigation, prescient etc.

[Sardonic Crisis]

and where did TW go, i wonder.