04-19-08, 07:27 PM #10601
04-19-08, 07:31 PM #10602
04-19-08, 07:31 PM #10603
Also the recharge rates on cannons is sufficiently short enough in ANH and ROTJ that the same laser guns were firing mopre than twice a second.
04-19-08, 07:32 PM #10604
04-19-08, 07:34 PM #10605
04-19-08, 07:37 PM #10606
Shields (your own or other)
The list goes on and on. Basically anything that is not an ideal situation completely louses transporters up.
04-19-08, 07:38 PM #10607
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04-19-08, 07:56 PM #10609
04-19-08, 08:29 PM #10610
04-19-08, 08:35 PM #10611
04-19-08, 08:37 PM #10612
04-19-08, 09:08 PM #10613
They were using a VERY low power phaser to drill! We're talking like, MAYBE a 1/100th of a percent power! Use your BRAIN! Drilling the hole in 1/9*10^100th seconds is pointless if the TOTAL POPULATION OF THE PLANET THEY WERE TRYING TO SAVE IS NOW FLASH FRIED!
04-19-08, 09:09 PM #10614
04-19-08, 09:32 PM #10615
04-19-08, 11:56 PM #10616
04-20-08, 12:13 AM #10617
An impressive feat no doubt, but not exactly what we see the UFP doing.
Again, we can easily prove that the UFP can dish out more energy than that.
A UFP phaser rifle has an output of 1.05 megawatts. Total, that shows us that for every 1.05 megawatts that the UFP puts into their shots, they get about 300x the effective damage. This means, that a phaser rifle at setting 16, can dish out 300 megawatts worth of firepower.
Now, we also know that it takes at LEAST 4.2 gigawatts to power a SMALL phaser bank. This would be something you'd see on an old Miranda class, or Constitution class. Now, assuming that at least one phaser element can have the same output, we multiply that by 933, and get 3,918.6 gigawatts. Now, we know they get almost 300x per the amount, and since the difference is only .05 (and the weapon was stated to be above average in firepower, since it was a fake made by the romulans, this seems fair enough).
That would mean that the main phaser array of a Galaxy class ship is at least 1,175,580 gigwatts, at least effectively.
So, it does at least 0.281239234 megatons. Or 281.2 kilotons. Now that's low end, and we also have the instance where the Romulan warbird in Pegasus was able to melt a great deal of rock, as seen by the calculations given to us by the Daystrom Institute:
In this episode a Romulan Warbird melts a significant portion of a large asteroid in order to seal the Enterprise-D inside a large chamber in the interior. The asteroid is described by the Encyclopedia (2nd edition, page 24) as 'moon sized'. No clear indication of the overall size is possible from the episode itself, but the when the Enterprise is on its way out of the asteroid Lieutenant Worf reports 'We have passed through two kilometres of the asteroid. Now within one kilometre of the surface.', indicating that the fissure is three kilometres deep. The fissure must have a diameter of at least six hundred metres in order to accomodate the Enterprise-D. The Warbird melts sufficient rock to fill the entire fissure.
The time scale is uncertain. We see Admiral Pressman and Commander Riker on the Starship Pegasus when the attack begins; they beam to the Enterprise, then the scene cuts and shows them arriving on the bridge to see the rock cooling. Twenty five seconds of screen time elapse, but some twenty or so extra seconds would be required for the two officers to reach the bridge from the transporter room. The total time of the Warbirds barrage is therefore approximately forty five seconds.
The volume of asteroidal material melted can be calculated by the equation :
V = pi x average radius of fissure2 x depth of fissure
= 3.142 x 3002 x 3000
= 3.142 x 3002 x 3000
= 848,340,000 cubic metres.
Assuming that the asteroid is rock the density, boiling point and specific heat capacity should be approximately 2,300 kg/cubic metre, 2500 K, and 720 J/Kg/K respectively. The energy required to melt this volume can be calculated thus :
E = 8.4834 x 108 x 2300 x 2500 x 720
= 3.512 x 1018 Joules
The average power output of the Warbird was therefore equal to :
P = 3.512 x 1018 / 45
= 7.805 x 1016 Watts
Or 78,047 Terawatts. This fits in exactly with the Warbird having slightly less firepower than the 100,000 TW output calculated earlier for the Galaxy class.
Also the recharge rates on cannons is sufficiently short enough in ANH and ROTJ that the same laser guns were firing mopre than twice a second.[/QUOTE]
78,047 terawatts, or 18.67 megatons.
It seems, that even at your best, you fail so horribly.
04-20-08, 01:07 AM #10618
Also, a UFP ship can move at 1/4th the speed of light, which is likely to grant them the ability to break away from a great deal of things.
Also, according to these calculations, we get a minimum for the Enterprise D in Relics (Again, Daystrom Institute):
During the episode it was revealed that the sphere had been abandoned because the star within it had become unstable, periodically emitting large amounts of radiation and mass. Datas dialogue revealed that the star had begun to enter such a phase as the Enterprise went into orbit - 'Sensors indicate that the solar flares will continue to grow', is how he put it. Hence, it seems that the average power output of the star was going to increase considerably during the next three hours - a factor which could push the shield numbers up by almost any amount. We also do not know the initial conditions within the sphere - it may well have been that the natives preferred environment was a much brighter and hotter one than class M, or much darker and colder for that matter.
Put simply, this episode proves only one thing beyond any possible doubt : against wideband electromagnetic input, the badly damaged shields of the Enterprise-D can withstand an absolute minimum of tens of thousands of terajoules and quite possibly a good deal more.
Assuming that shield capacity is directly proportional to the strength figure Data quoted, then the maximum capacity for the shields would be :
E = (100/23) x 9 x 1017 Joules = 3,913,000 TeraJoules.
But of course, this is yet another loaded assumption because Data could have meant that the shields had 23% of their normal power running through them, or 23% of their maximum energy absorbtion rate, or... you get the idea.
During my own speculations about the strength of Starship shielding, I assigned the Galaxy class a shield capacity of 5,400,000 TJ; this is some 38% above the top figure generated by 'Relics', which seems well within the range which can be accounted for by increased solar activity. On the other hand, it is an eighteenfold increase over the lower end of the range, which is still certainly feasible but less likely.
Of course, 2369, while the shielding figures on my pages are for 2374/5. During this time Starfleet has encountered the Dominion, and apparently most or all starships and starbases have had their shields modified to resist Dominion attack; metaphasic shielding was also invented during this interval. Between them these three factors could easily account for a considerable increase in shielding levels on the Galaxy class.
04-20-08, 05:01 AM #10619
The UFP can move at 80% the speed of light on a Galaxy, nearly 90% for a Sovereign... way more than 1/4 mate
04-20-08, 05:03 AM #10620
How does that begin to argue that tractor beams were used?! SHOW CANON...not speculation...You always do this...without fail. And it never ceases to amaze me.
Type Seven Shuttle Craft
Plus, the shuttle craft was impulse only. None of the episodes it was in ever had the vessel at warp... That means no Warp Core. So you're wrong again.
Don't believe me...review the Episode Q Who. The type 7 is missing and Enterprise conducts a search and never goes to warp during the search.
1) We know from the close ups that asteroid in ESB wasn't completely vaporized. There was particle matter left over.
2) We know the phaser actually vaporize leaving nothing within hundreds of meters of the beam
3) We know the phasers target was 10 times denser than the heaviest element in an asteroid of nikel/iron.
4) that comes to 50 or 60 times the ability of the turbo laser.
What do you not understand Scotty....
I know but after the Rebels went toe to toe with the Star Destroyers to avoid the Death Star do you really think they didn't open fire on the Rebel ships even though the Mon Calmari cruisers were destroying Star Destroyers?
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