Star Wars vs Star Trek

[SkywalkerJedi]

... Are you serious? If he was a God, why didnt he intervene in all the chaos that happened after the fall of the Empire?

Again, you lose all credibility. Not like you had any anyway.

I already said this, the will of the force forbade him to intervene.

[SkywalkerJedi]

Q can, and has, made beings simply cease to exist... he has moved planetary bodies with a thought... he can change the gravitational constant of the universe... the force has NOTHING on OMNIPOTENCE!

Scott, stop trying to downplay the Q just because you cannot beat them!

I finally give up. Q can beat Anakin Skywalker as a mortal, but when he is a force ghost, he can't be killed, and I give up on Skywalker can kill Q.

[antaran_1979]

" If you strike me down darth, I shall be more powerful then you ever can imagine."-Ben Kenobi before his death. Acroding to that he can do more then chating. Anakin Skywalker is techniclly a god because he is the pure vessle of the force.

hmm... in the most literal meaning it would mean Dart Vader has a limited imagination. in a broad methaphor, it could mean that the after-life form of the jedi has some benefit unavailable to the sith. but there is no indication as to what that would be. after all, neighter Yoda nor Obi-Wan interveaned after their deaths. the were only able to provide counsel to the force sensitive Luke.

[SkywalkerJedi]

He graduated and was a lieutenant. Last I checked, becoming an officer required intelligence and knowledge.

He is not even high enough rank to have a squdron, I told you read insider, it says that the Imperials only give their low ranking officers infomation on a strict need-to-know basis.

[antaran_1979]

I already said this, the will of the force forbade him to intervene.

that would mean he has no control over the force

[SkywalkerJedi]

hmm... in the most literal meaning it would mean Dart Vader has a limited imagination. in a broad methaphor, it could mean that the after-life form of the jedi has some benefit unavailable to the sith. but there is no indication as to what that would be. after all, neighter Yoda nor Obi-Wan interveaned after their deaths. the were only able to provide counsel to the force sensitive Luke.

Then why did the jedi padawan need to fight the force ghost of Exar Kun?

[antaran_1979]

He is not even high enough rank to have a squdron, I told you read insider, it says that the Imperials only give their low ranking officers infomation on a strict need-to-know basis.

but this allso means the Empire's oficers are extreamly uninformed/ uneducated. you don't want those guys at your side in combat, since they don't even know the capabilty of their own ordinance.

[SkywalkerJedi]

that would mean he has no control over the force

He can control it when it is not aginst it's will.

[antaran_1979]

Then why did the jedi padawan need to fight the force ghost of Exar Kun?

never happened in the movies or the Clone wars.

[SkywalkerJedi]

but this allso means the Empire's oficers are extreamly uninformed/ uneducated. you don't want those guys at your side in combat, since they don't even know the capabilty of their own ordinance.

They don't want the Rebellion to shield all their planets, so thats why.

[antaran_1979]

He can control it when it is not aginst it's will.

well i can push an elephant when it wants to go forward

[SkywalkerJedi]

never happened in the movies or the Clone wars.

EU is still canon, it is just C-Canon not G-Canon.

[SkywalkerJedi]

well i can push an elephant when it wants to go forward

Yes.

[antaran_1979]

They don't want the Rebellion to shield all their planets, so thats why.

no wonder the Imperials aper incompetent then. they treat their own soldiers as an enemy.

[SkywalkerJedi]

no wonder the Imperials aper incompetent then. they treat their own soldiers as an enemy.

So thats why i like the Republic.

[antaran_1979]

EU is still canon, it is just C-Canon not G-Canon.

my point is there is no way to confirm it.

[antaran_1979]

So thats why i like the Republic.

their ground forces apear more competent then the empire's, but there is no indication their oficers are more informed.

[antaran_1979]

[QUOTE=SkywalkerJedi;1809668]

Firstly. There is no such thing as almost indestructable. Either are or you aren't.[/QOUTE]
I mean it only can be destroyed by Centerpoint, a Blackhole and the force.



You finally agreed that Star Wars superships are better. May I ask do you consider a Star Destroyer a supership? They built Excecutor in a year.

i think he poited out that UFP ships are better

[SkywalkerJedi]

I have to say I agree.
Skywalker Jedi you're actually losing credibility. You don't wanna fall into the TWScott category. You can't just throw up situation dependent examples or questions certain out comes based on them. That's kind of flagrantly biased.

If there is a reason that Skywalker should be considered more powerful than Q, then find it and show it to us. Everything and anything other than that is just implicity. It's your word only.

I do think he had some credit to his name on some issues and he's previously retracted statements when they were pointed out as inaccurate by others. That shows he's not dishonest and I much prefer that to TWScotts distasteful dedication to factual contentiousness.

I surrender the Q issue, but Q can't "kill" Skywalker because he is a force ghost. I agree Skywalker can do no damage on Q. Well............ Star Trek said that Q do things in the best to humans and Skywalker is a human.

[SkywalkerJedi]

[QUOTE=antaran_1979;1809687]

i think he poited out that UFP ships are better

What the.........
he said Star Wars superships are better but they take too long to build compared to Star Trek ships.