Star Wars vs Star Trek

[antaran_1979]

Wrong again. As we have seen in the shows there are ships nimble enough to dodge phaser fire. Also phasers have completely missed ships that were not even doing 700 meters a second in open space.



Incorrect. First of all ISD maximum range is well in excess of 50,000 kilometers. Second ISD Shields would easily be able to repel the vastly weakened Phaser blasts. (Remember that Phaser blasts have reduced power at further ranges.) Third the ISD could plot a hyperspace mini jump and come out firing. Infact they could plot a series of jumps to jump to point blank, fire then jump back. Especially against such an inferior foe.

true and not so true. see the last 400+ pages for details.

[SkywalkerJedi]

hah, why would an F-16 pilot need to know the guns on an Iowa class battleship? education and competence

Okay read insider, the infomation they give their low ranking imperial officers are on a strictly need-to-know basis.

[SkywalkerJedi]

true and not so true. see the last 400+ pages for details.

The mini jump part is true, but the range really depend of the class of the turbolaser.

[antaran_1979]

We have NEVER seen him do anything godlike with his supposed omnipotence. If he could teleport the Federation ships anywhere why didn't he just take Yoyager home?

Everything Q does could be done by transporter, hypnosis machine, flux capacitor and replicator. Like I have said many, many times they are just very very technologically advanced.

how about the Calamarian or the orbital shifts?

[antaran_1979]

Why didn't the Dominion or the Borg? They were in the right areas of space for Mr Uxebridge and the Organians. Yet not even a peep form either. Let's be fair and leave the omnipotent out of this, after all SW has more than few hundred itself and unlike ST they are proactive.

So no worrying about Q, Uxebridge, Organians, Staff of Darkness. the Starplague, force ghosts or anything like that. Just the living and mortal.


We will assume that living legends on each side get to duke it out head to head. Should be more interesting that way. I mean just imagine the Chewbacca/Worf brawl. Either with or without melee weapons it should be good.

bah! Worf is no good. not to my standards anyways. but even UFP against Galactic Empire makes a good fight. allthough UFP is forced on the defensive and survive long enough for the Empire to colapse

[SkywalkerJedi]

bah! Worf is no good. not to my standards anyways. but even UFP against Galactic Empire makes a good fight. allthough UFP is forced on the defensive and survive long enough for the Empire to colapse

How about the Grand Army of the Republic, they will not attack then the Federation will be on offensive, and the Republic can wait till the Starfleet take too much casulties, or the Domionions and the Borg to destory the federation.

[antaran_1979]

[QUOTE=Saquist;1809244]That seems appropriate to the comparison antaran illistrated.

That's harder...tell you what...I'll go out and by the last Star Wars movie and take some shots of the heavy emplacements doing damage.



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that would be most helpfull

[SkywalkerJedi]

how about the Calamarian or the orbital shifts?

How about force made wormholes, and Anakin Skywalker's abilities. Yoda can even move ships when he is 800 years old.

[antaran_1979]

He is simply a ex-low ranking TIE pilot

so would an F-16 airforce lieutenant be

[SkywalkerJedi]

[QUOTE=antaran_1979;1809555]

That seems appropriate to the comparison antaran illistrated.



that would be most helpfull

It is no use, in Revenge of the Sith, they use side turbolasers, they are one of the weakest. In Attack of the Clones, there is no turbolaser fighting. In Phantom Mence there is only turbolaser attacks on highly shielded ships thats used by the queen of naboo.

[antaran_1979]

ISD 1 is out gunned by Ventors, but ISD II is better. Ventors and Victory outmanuver ISDs.

outmanoevre yes. out gun no. good for patrol and escort, bad for pitched battles.

[SkywalkerJedi]

so would an F-16 airforce lieutenant be

read insider. The Imperial Navy only tell their pilots stuff on the strict need-to-know basis.

[SkywalkerJedi]

outmanoevre yes. out gun no. good for patrol and escort, bad for pitched battles.

Manuver is needed to fight Starfleet ships.

[antaran_1979]

If Q is that powerful why didn't he stop the civil war within the Q race?

why are Q being able to kill Q? is that even a question? the only cofirmed case of a Q being killed IS another Q.

[SkywalkerJedi]

bah! Worf is no good. not to my standards anyways. but even UFP against Galactic Empire makes a good fight. allthough UFP is forced on the defensive and survive long enough for the Empire to colapse

How about Worf and Skywalker as a padawan fight melee only with melee weapons?

[antaran_1979]

Okay read insider, the infomation they give their low ranking imperial officers are on a strictly need-to-know basis.

need to know? judjing by their performance and your statements the only thing they'd need to know is how to die. knowing your own abilities is as improtant as knowing your enemy.

[SkywalkerJedi]

why are Q being able to kill Q? is that even a question? the only cofirmed case of a Q being killed IS another Q.

Then acording to you, Anakin Skywalker got killed by force lighting and is harmed only by lightsaber and molten magma, means that he only can be killed or harmed by those two things?

[SkywalkerJedi]

need to know? judjing by their performance and your statements the only thing they'd need to know is how to die. knowing your own abilities is as improtant as knowing your enemy.

I don't know what to tell you, but thats what it said in Star Wars Insider. GAR is more generous in sharing their infomation with their troops.

[antaran_1979]

How about the Grand Army of the Republic, they will not attack then the Federation will be on offensive, and the Republic can wait till the Starfleet take too much casulties, or the Domionions and the Borg to destory the federation.

at present tech levels, UFP CAN't (not won't) go into ofensive. thier FTL abilities restrict their strategy not their intent. starfleet cant engage deep into Empire or Republic theritory even if they wanted to. not untill they coul perfect the Sleepstream or Transwarp, ot even Coaxial warp.

[antaran_1979]

How about force made wormholes, and Anakin Skywalker's abilities. Yoda can even move ships when he is 800 years old.

did you see what Q did to the Calamarian?