Star Wars vs Star Trek

[USS Athens]

Scott, your looked down oppon on this thread, all ST fans dislike you. And all SW fans think of you at the very least, impolite.

[Lord Vasago]

why didn't the federation use these tricobald thing then when the borg we're attacking earth. Wasn't it safe enough?

Why didn't the borg send a thousand ships when the first was destroyed. the wouldn't be a federation left i think.

[TW Scott]

Actully I was going to say the same to you, you have no proof, no one belives your imaginary numbers.

ICS: Attack of the Clones Heavy Turbolaser on the Acclamator series Star Destroyer (old and outdated by the standards of Imperial Star Destroyers) and this is Canon so suck it up

[USS Athens]

* sigh *

If a cube has a colectieve mind you only have to control one, WRIGHT?
The borg would leave Vader alone till he becomes dangerous. WRIGHT?
So he can walk up to Queen without any problems.

Actully a cube would just blow up Vader's TIE before he even got there.

[USS Athens]

ICS: Attack of the Clones Heavy Turbolaser on the Acclamator series Star Destroyer (old and outdated by the standards of Imperial Star Destroyers) and this is Canon so suck it up

What the hell is this?

[USS Athens]

why didn't the federation use these tricobald thing then when the borg we're attacking earth. Wasn't it safe enough?

Why didn't the borg send a thousand ships when the first was destroyed. the wouldn't be a federation left i think.

Possibly one of the few retarded things the Borg Collective does.

[TW Scott]

Scott, your looked down oppon on this thread, all ST fans dislike you. And all SW fans think of you at the very least, impolite.

No, the true ST fans applaud me for holding up Gene's vision. And the SW fans think I am being way too lenient on on you.

[USS Athens]

why didn't the federation use these tricobald thing then when the borg we're attacking earth. Wasn't it safe enough?

Actully, If I remember right, at the time it was standard for only an Intrepid class starship to carry them.

[TW Scott]

What the hell is this?

It is a technical readout of the space craft and vehicles from Attack of the clones. Commisioned and approved by Lucas.

[USS Athens]

No, the true ST fans applaud me for holding up Gene's vision. And the SW fans think I am being way too lenient on on you.

Maybe you should go and get stoned some other time...

[USS Athens]

It is a technical readout of the space craft and vehicles from Attack of the clones. Commisioned and approved by Lucas.

Oh yeah that book, I've seen that one before. The engine on an Acclamator class ship looks more primitive than the plane turbofan engines we have today.

[Lord Vasago]

Actully a cube would just blow up Vader's TIE before he even got there.

Vader doesn't be inside the cube to choke or mindcontrol the queen. He's doen if before. nah let's just drop it peace

[USS Athens]

Peace

[TW Scott]

...You do realise that it works on in part with mediclorions (or whatever the hell they call them) right? You realize that a specific virus designed to kill them would very possibly mean death to all who contract it?

provided a virus can kill midichlorians. They mey might be SW term for mitochondria. However midichlorians are not strictly needed to use the Force, it helps but is not neccessary.

[USS Athens]

No, the true ST fans applaud me for holding up Gene's vision. And the SW fans think I am being way too lenient on on you.

And who might those fans be? Hmmmmmm?

[Kittamaru]

Mitochondria can be killed by bacterial infection...

And yes, midichlorians ARE the force. Without them, no force.

Come to think of it... due to this, once we put you're jedi and sith thru the transporter and separate the midichlorians (yes, transporters can remove infectious bacteria, parasites, viruses, and more) from their bodies, you can no longer use the force.

So the force isn't even a problem.

Neat.

[Hellblade8]

Jedi Mind Tricks work BEST on the weak minded. Someone like Vader, Palaptine, Luke, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Kyp Duron, Jacen Solo, or Ben Skywalker could turn the strongest minds into tinker toys.

By that logic then Jabba the Hutt should have been fooled by Luke, and yet he wasn't. Of course, knowing you, your going to suggest that Jabba was a closet Sith Lord.

Perhaps she would sense it, if it was emotion based and she could even fathom how to get past Vader's shielding.

...What? Vader has shielding now? Fuck, the guy radiates evil. And Troi can sense when someone is acting odd, not to mention the fact that the crew will not do something that is dangerous just because Picard says so, double so when he's just repeating what Vader puts into his head, and given that Vader can't hear what's being said to Picard, he wouldn't be able to respond correctly. Unlike Imperial soldiers, a UFP officer won't walk off a cliff just because someone tells them to, its something we like to call self-preservation.

You forget even if you go 200 isoton warheads some sights claim for Photon Torpedoes, that means that you torpedoes only have the same destructiveve capability as 200 tons of TNT. Even the multikeinetic mines that would have spread the anti Species 8472 nanite was onely a 5 megaton weapon. Disrupters are considered on a scale with Photons and we KNOW the Scimitar severely mauled the Enterprise E with Photon Torpedoes and Dsirupter fire. Doing significant damage with this low power weapons.

Excuse my french, but just how fucking dense are you? You cannot create a weapon of mass destruction with a five megaton warhead to cover an entire solar system. Claiming otherwise is just pure stupidity. These ships can move at incredibly fast speeds and jump to warp in a matter of seconds. They would see the slow wave of nanoprobes coming and easily escape. Furthemore, there is evidence that goes against this bull shit.

However, I am giving you this one chance to explain your reasons.

First, explain how ships armed with at most fired no more than fifty torps (and that is freaking high given that they only likely fired 20 to 30 shots) at a planet destroy 30% of the crust with only 20 tons of TNT?

Furethermore, given the firepower of what you claim, how in the hell could they ever hope to destroy a planet's crust with at most 4,000 missles 8,000 tons worth of TNT explosions in an hour's worth of time?

Or explain to me why Bones, the Chief Medical Officer of the Enterprise thought that the Enterprise could level a planet flat, and why did everyone not think of this as a problem?

Or how about when a 90 isoton bomb was able to cause an explosion that covered up to 800 kilometers in diamiter caused by bomb that would be far less than a megaton?

Or how about you explain to me in Skin of Evil, how a single Photon was able to create a instant massive fireball that could be easily seen from space? Or how about the fact that Kirk and his crew where able to put together a bomb at the last minute that was so powerful that it ripped off half the atmosphere of a planet and greatly shook their ship from afar?

How do you explain the fact that Scotty didn't want to fire upon a weakpoint in a planetary shield because he was afraid that he phasers might vaporize the atmosphere if he was off in the level of firepower he used?

And how do you explain that Scott was able to use four or five phasers to power a shuttle craft so that it was able to leave the atmosphere of a Class M planet and stay up there for a few minutes? Or how do you explain that a single phaser set to overload in TOS could take out an entire deck of a starship? Or how about the fact that in TNG we see a phaser being used to power a transporter, which basicly takes you apart atom by atom, converts you into energy and then converts you back and then quickly rebuild you perfectly from the ground up. Not to mention the kind of systems you have to power just to get that transporter to work. You have the console, the sensors, the two machines that keep track of your pattern (with information so complicated that you would have to take the most advanced CPU and start stacking them all the way to the middle of the galaxy just to reach that level of information) get it to perform the whole process.

Or how about the fact that a Phaser set to Wide beam on level 16 can destroy half of a large facility that holds insane people? Or how they used a antimatter bomb to destroy a 18,000 kilometer long amoeba that even as they where heading out, threw them a good distance?

So yes, tell me all about how the UFP has weapons that don't exceed 20 tons worth of TNT. For you see, you have one small showing of weakness, and I have more than a couple handfuls of Star Trek firepower out the whazoo. So either you can cut the bullshit and back down now, or explain to me how all these events can be achived via 20 tons of TNT.

We all know that a Heavy Turbolaser, by canon is 12.5 gigatons equivalents. You can refute it all you want and hop and scream and use ever obscenity in the book, it will not change this.

The highest quote we have of Turbolasers are them being able to vaporize a small town (often at most only a few miles in size), because I'm sure that it takes 12.5 gigatons to do that, but 20 ships blowing the shit out of 30% of a planet's crust must only take 20 tons of TNT each.

[Lord Vasago]

Actully, If I remember right, at the time it was standard for only an Intrepid class starship to carry them.

I see, but wouldn't the defence staions of earth have them too. I know they we're illegal but hey your protecting your planet.

[Kittamaru]

And who might those fans be? Hmmmmmm?

Ent, ignore scott. he is more deluded than Homer Simpson.

[TW Scott]

Maybe you should go and get stoned some other time...

Do you have proof I am stoned? Otherwise you are compounding an ad hominem with another ad hominem. Which is not surprising as it does seem to be the onlty thing you can do.