View Poll Results: Which universe would win?

Voters
670. This poll is closed
  • Star Trek

    227 33.88%
  • Star Wars

    285 42.54%
  • Spaceballs

    51 7.61%
  • Farscape

    14 2.09%
  • Dune

    54 8.06%
  • Stargate

    39 5.82%

Thread: Star Wars vs Star Trek

  1. #4241
    Quote Originally Posted by TW Scott View Post
    Hey, in ST it took Worf some fiber optic cable to do it. Kirk took the sensors completely out of the picture by entering the Mutara nebula. several ships have hidden from the Enterprise D by using the magnetic pole of a planet....
    SPLENDID so a few bountyhunters can sabotage their fleet then.
    are the shields as simple to crack ?

  2. #4242
    Ok back to the whole ST vs. SW, I am still thinking it is clear cut. I agree with previous posts. Even though it is Universe vs. Universe, Star Wars has been around much longer than recorded star trek.

    MORE SHIPS
    MORE PEOPLE
    MORE WEAPONS
    MORE TECHNOLOGY
    MORE PLANETS
    ETC.

    Star Trek guys get off the long post kick good god! I am casually writing, im not sitting at home for 2 hours thinking up random trek crap. Look at the poll look at the amount of Star Wars drivel.

    Star Wars WINS!! RESISTENCE IS FUTILE
    WARNING!! Long Post of Star Wars Timeline (most dates and events
    are actually accounted for in books/movies and not
    speculation)


    In the official continuity’s Star Wars universe (based on Coruscant’s rotation) :

    1 year = 10 months + 3 festival weeks + 3 holiday days = 368 days
    1 month = 7 weeks = 35 days
    1 week = 5 days
    1 day = 24 hours
    1 hour = 60 minutes

    Before the Battle of Yavin (BBY)
    > 7,500,000,000 BBY
    The Big Bang occurs, which leads to the formation of the universe.
    c. 5,000,000,000 BBY
    The Star Wars galaxy forms.
    The first star in the Cularian System, named Morasil, is formed.
    c. 3,000,000,000 BBY
    The Sharu race evolves in the Rafa System.
    c. 2,000,000,000 BBY
    The Oseon System forms. A rogue star is believed to have passed too close to the system, disrupting the planet formation and creating an abnormally large asteroid belt.
    c. 100,000 BBY
    The planet Coruscant is now covered entirely by its principal city, later known as the Galactic City.
    The ancient Sith civilization begins to develop on the planet Korriban.
    The Jedi rise.
    c.95,000 BBY
    The lower 40-50 levels of (present day) Coruscant see the sun for the last time.
    c. 49,000 BBY
    The Infinite Empire of the Rakata is established. They bring hyperdrive technology to the galaxy.
    c. 30,000 BBY
    The Rakata's Infinite Empire construct the Star Forge, using it to build their army.
    c. 28,000 BBY
    After a protracted civil war, a plague affecting only the Rakata causes the Infinite Empire to collapse.
    c. 27,000 BBY
    The first human colonists land on Alderaan.
    c. 25,200 BBY
    The Force is rediscovered by many groups across the galaxy.
    The Killiks are forced to leave Alderaan, and head to the Unknown Regions.
    c. 25,130 BBY
    The reign of Xim the Despot begins.
    c. 25,100 BBY
    Xim the Despot is killed while battling the Hutts at Vontor, ending his tyrannic reign over the Tion Hegemony.
    c. 25,000 BBY
    Hyperdrive is rediscovered.
    The Unification Wars are fought.
    The Galactic Constitution is signed. After the signing of this constitution the Galactic Republic and the Jedi Order are founded. Coruscant becomes the Republic's capital.
    c. 24,500 BBY
    The first war between the Jedi, the First Great Schism, begins when some of their number are drawn to the dark side.
    c. 24,400 BBY
    The Dark Jedi, known as the Legions of Lettow, lose the war and are exiled from the Republic.
    A prophecy tells of a Chosen One who will bring "balance to the Force."
    c. 9,990 BBY
    Lightsabers are invented.
    c. 8,000 BBY
    The Republic colonizes the planet Malastare. Gran colonists arrive over the following centuries and begin to displace the native Dugs.
    c. 7,000 BBY
    The beginning of the Second Great Schism: the Hundred-Year Darkness.
    c. 6,900 BBY
    The Hundred-Year Darkness presumably ends. The rebellious Dark Jedi are exiled from Republic space. In the realms beyond the Republic's reach they found the Sith Empire, which remains unknown to rest of the galaxy for almost two thousand years.
    c. 5,500 BBY
    The first leg of the Rimma Trade Route is established by Tapani Sector merchants.
    c. 5,000 BBY
    The Great Hyperspace War. Gav and Jori Daragon accidentally lead the Sith Empire to the Republic. The Republic wins the following war, but Naga Sadow escapes to Yavin 4.
    The planet Tatooine is discovered by the Republic (approximate date). It had formerly been a part of the Infinite Empire.
    c. 4,400 BBY
    The Jedi Knight Freedon Nadd falls to the Dark Side, learning the secrets of the Sith from the Dark Lord Naga Sadow, and becomes the ruler of the planet Onderon.
    4,250 BBY
    The Third Great Schism: the Vultar Cataclysm.
    4,014 BBY
    Canderous Ordo is born.
    3,998 BBY
    The Jedi impose order on Onderon, sealing away Freedon Nadd's tomb on the demon-moon Dxun within a container of Mandalorian iron. The heirs to the Empress Teta system begin dabbling in Sith magic, stealing an ancient tome from a Coruscantan museum. The two cousins, Satal and Aleema Keto, become corrupted by the Sith lore and Freedon Nadd's ghost.
    3,997 BBY
    The two heirs, aided by dark Sith magic, stage a coup, assuming control of the seven planets of the Empress Teta system. A civil war rages, and the Old Republic dispatches a military task force assisted by Jedi to restore peace. Exar Kun discovers Freedon Nadd's tomb, and goes to Korriban, where he is corrupted. The Jedi meet at Ossus, where in the discussions on the recent resurgence of the Dark side, Satal and Aleema unleash their Tetan war droids on the Jedi, killing Ulic Qel-Droma's master, Arca Jeth. Exar Kun sets up base on Yavin 4 with Qel-Droma after destroying the spirit of Freedon Nadd.
    3,996 BBY
    The Great Sith War. Fallen Jedi Ulic Qel-Droma and Exar Kun lead a war against the Republic, but are defeated by the Republic and light-sided Jedi.
    3,986 BBY
    Ulic Qel-Droma is killed.
    c. 3,983 BBY
    The Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders begin to conquer worlds in the Outer Rim. The Jedi Council forbids involvement by the Jedi until the problem has been assessed.
    c. 3,983 / 3,980 BBY
    Atton Rand is born.
    3,976 BBY
    Brianna the Handmaiden and Mical the Disciple are born. The Miraluka Visas Marr is born on Katarr.
    3,974 BBY
    Mira is born.
    3,970 BBY
    Mission Vao is born.
    3,964 BBY
    Knights of the Old Republic: Comic Series
    Zayne Carrick is framed for the murder of his fellow Padawan classmates at the Jedi Academy on Taris.
    3,963 BBY
    The Mandalorian Wars begin.
    The Jedi Revan and Malak defy the Jedi Council and lead the Republic forces against the invaders.
    3,960 BBY
    The Mandalorian Wars end. A Jedi serving Revan as general, later called the Exile, willfully severs all ties to the Force to end the pain caused by the thousands of deaths at the Battle of Malachor V. The Exile is called to Coruscant to answer for defying the Jedi Council, and is banished when the Council learns of the general's willful abandonment of the Force.
    Revan and Malak disappear. Shortly after this time, Revan and Malak fall to the Dark Side, each assuming the title of Sith Lord and adding Darth to their names. The tradition of using "Darth" as a prefix for a Sith name is used often, but certainly not by all Sith Lords for the next 3,000 years.
    HK-47 is built by Revan.
    3,959 BBY
    Revan and Malak, who have been seduced by the dark side, declare war on the Republic. Only the Battle Meditation of Bastila Shan staves off certain defeat.
    3,956 BBY
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    The Jedi Civil War concludes with the redemption of Revan, the death of Malak, and the destruction of the Star Forge.
    3,955 BBY
    Revan disappears into the Unknown Regions to destroy the threat of the "true Sith."
    3,951 BBY
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
    The Exile is discovered aboard the Ebon Hawk, Revan's ship, by Darth Traya, a Sith Lord trying to kill the Force by manipulating the life-threatening echoes caused by the Exile's willing abandonment of it. The Exile reestablishes connection to the Force, then kills Darth Traya, Darth Nihilus, and Darth Sion, who have spent the last five years murdering Jedi, and a new Jedi Order is built.
    c. 3,900 BBY
    The planet Naboo is colonized by settlers from Grizmalt.
    2,000 BBY
    A rogue Jedi absconds from the order with a stolen Holocron and starts a new Sith Order that engages the Jedi for the next thousand years. The New Sith War begins, lasting for over a thousand years.
    1,031 BBY
    The Battle of Ruusan. The remaining Sith are exterminated on Ruusan, with the exception of Darth Bane, who starts a new Sith Order with only one master and one apprentice at a time. Furthermore as part of his own reformation of the Sith Order, Darth Bane institutes the tradition that all Sith names shall begin with "Darth", a previously common but not universal appellation. The site of the final confrontation of the battle becomes the legendary Valley of the Jedi.
    The Senate passes the Ruusan Reformation, setting the year of the Battle of Ruusan to the year zero.
    1,000 BBY
    Thousand year peace begins, Jedi Order accepts new laws.
    896 BBY
    Yoda, arguably the greatest Jedi Master ever to exist, is born on an unknown planet. He is discovered by the Jedi, and begins his training in infancy.
    596 BBY
    Jabba the Hutt is born.
    490 BBY
    The Corporate Sector Authority, a free-enterprise fiefdom of the galaxy, is founded to free the Senate and corporate moneymakers from each other.
    350 BBY
    The Trade Federation is founded.
    200 BBY
    Chewbacca is born on Kashyyyk.
    102 BBY
    Count Dooku is born to an aristocratic family on Serenno. He is discovered by the Jedi, and begins his training in infancy.
    92 BBY
    Qui-Gon Jinn is born on an unknown planet. He is discovered by the Jedi, and begins his training in infancy.
    82 BBY
    Darth Sidious is born Palpatine on the planet of Naboo and is taken into training by Darth Plagueis.
    72 BBY
    Mace Windu is born on Haruun Kal. He is discovered by the Jedi and begins his training at infancy.
    Shmi Skywalker is born
    69 BBY
    Bail Organa is born on Alderaan.
    66 BBY
    Jango Fett is born on Concord Dawn.
    64 BBY
    Wilhuff Tarkin is born on Eriadu.
    58 BBY
    Jango Fett is orphaned when his family of simple farmers is murdered by the Mandalorian Death Watch. He is picked up by former Journeyman Protector Jaster Mereel.
    57 BBY
    Obi-Wan Kenobi is born, though there are no details about his place of origin. He is discovered by the Jedi, and begins his training in infancy.
    54 BBY
    Darth Maul is also born on Iridonia, and is kidnapped as an infant by Darth Sidious. Darth Sidious then begins training him as his apprentice.
    52 BBY
    Palpatine is elected to the Galactic Senate as Senator of Naboo.
    Zam Wesell is born on Zolan.
    c. 50 BBY
    Jar Jar Binks is born on Naboo.
    46 BBY
    Padmé Amidala is born to Ruwee and Jobal Naberrie on Naboo.
    c. 45 BBY
    The Katana fleet, the first attempt by the Republic to rebuild a standing military after Ruusan, is launched.
    44 BBY
    The Stark Hyperspace War (no relation to the Great Hyperspace War).
    Qui-Gon Jinn takes Obi-Wan Kenobi as his padawan.
    42 BBY
    Firmus Piett is born on Axxila.
    41 BBY
    Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One who will bring balance to the Force, is born to a slave named Shmi Skywalker, though no details of his exact place of origin is disclosed.
    40 BBY
    Finis Valorum is elected Chancellor of the Republic.
    39 BBY
    Shmi and Anakin Skywalker come to live on Tatooine when they are purchased by Gardulla the Hutt. However, the Hutt ultimately loses her prize to a junk dealer named Watto.
    35 BBY
    The Great Resynchronization occurs, in an attempt to harmonize different Galactic calendars.
    34 BBY
    The Mandalorians are destroyed by a Jedi task force led by Count Dooku in the Battle of Galidraan. Jango Fett is the only survivor.
    32 BBY
    Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
    Anakin Skywalker begins to build C-3PO out of the pieces of several broken protocol droids.
    The Trade Federation, under the influence of Darth Sidious, blockades, and eventually invades Naboo to protest a shipping tax.
    The droid R2-D2 distinguishes himself by saving Amidala's ship when it was running the blockade. On Tatooine, R2-D2 meets his future counterpart C-3PO.
    Anakin Skywalker is discovered by Qui-Gon Jinn on the planet Tatooine.
    The Battle of Naboo takes place when Queen Amidala fights back against the Federation when the Galactic Senate refuses to act: she unites her people with the Gungans and together they successfully overturn the Federation, despite the Naboos' and Gungans' mutual dislike for each other. In the battle, Darth Maul kills Qui-Gon Jinn, and Obi-Wan Kenobi kills Darth Maul. Daultay Dofine is killed when the Droid Control Ship is destroyed.
    After Jinn's death, Skywalker begins training to be a Jedi under Obi-Wan Kenobi.
    Following the Naboo crisis, Senator Palpatine of Naboo is elected Chancellor of the Republic, replacing Finis Valorum.
    Count Dooku leaves the Jedi Order and disappears, secretly joining Darth Sidious.
    Bail Organa is elected to the Galactic Senate as Senator of Alderaan.
    A clone army is created on Kamino in secret, supposedly commissioned by Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas. The source of the clones, Jango Fett, demands, in addition to his considerable pay, an unaltered clone for himself, whom he raises as a son and names Boba.
    31 BBY
    Kendal Ozzel is born on Carida.
    29 BBY
    Raith Sienar presents the original concept for the Death Star to Wilhuff Tarkin.
    Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker visit on Zonama Sekot.
    Han Solo is born on Corellia.
    27 BBY
    Yarael Poof is killed. He gave his life saving Coruscant from a band of terrorists who had secured a weapon powerful enough to destroy the entire planet.
    24 BBY
    Count Dooku reappears on Raxus Prime and alleges that the Republic has become too corrupt and pushes for citizens to break from the Republic and form a new government of their own, the Confederacy of Independent Systems.
    22 BBY
    Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
    An attack is made on Senator Amidala's landing platform, on Coruscant, by bounty hunter Zam Wesell, killing eight Naboo officers and Amidala's decoy, Corde.
    After a second attempt to kill Senator Amidala, Jedi Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi chase Zam Wesell through Coruscant. Jango Fett silences Zam Wesell with a poison dart, killing her instantly.
    Anakin Skywalker returns to his homeworld of Tatooine and meets his stepbrother Owen Lars. C-3PO is reunited with R2-D2.
    Shmi Skywalker is killed by Tusken Raiders, driving Anakin Skywalker toward the dark side of the Force.
    Obi-Wan Kenobi discovers that Nute Gunray has been attempting to orchestrate Padmé Amidala's death in revenge for foiling his plans ten years before and that Count Dooku's Confederacy of Independent Systems is preparing for war.
    Palpatine is given "emergency powers" by the Senate (as recommended by Jar-Jar Binks, thus making the Gungan directly responsible for Palpatine's later rise), and adopts the clone army as the Grand Army of the Republic grown on Kamino to fight the Confederacy.
    The Clone Wars begin with the Battle of Geonosis. Mace Windu kills Jango Fett in the fighting and Boba is left an orphan. Poggle the Lesser passes the later concept for the Death Star to Count Dooku, who in turn places it under the protection of Darth Sidious on Coruscant.
    Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala fall in love and marry in secret on Naboo.
    22 - 19 BBY
    Star Wars: Clone Wars
    Aayla Secura and Ylenic It'kla track down a Techno Union scientist on Corellia.
    Durge reamerges from hibernation and joins the Confederacy. He fights in the Battle of Muunilist against Obi-Wan and apparently is killed. However, he survives and after Asajj Ventress is defeated by Anakin Skywalker he fights with her against the Jedi. He is ultimately killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi.
    A Dark Jedi named Asajj Ventress meets Count Dooku and proclaims herself as a Sith. However after fighting with Count Dooku she understands that she is far beyond their power and wishes to join the Sith, so Darth Sidious and Count Dooku use her for their dark plan against Anakin Skywalker. Once she finds Anakin Skywalker, they engage in battle, and Ventress is defeated, but survives.
    Trandoshan mercenaries capture the Republic Assault Ship Prosecutor and try to sell it to the Confederacy of Independent Systems. The Republic Special Commando Force Delta Squad recapture it.
    General Grievous, leader of the Separatist Army, invades Coruscant, kidnapping Chancellor Palpatine.
    19 BBY
    Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
    The Clone Wars end with the destruction of the Confederacy at the Battle of Coruscant where there Count Dooku meets his death and the death of General Grievous at Utapau.
    Chancellor Palpatine is revealed to be Darth Sidious, kills Jedi Masters Mace Windu, Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, and Agen Kolar, and creates the Galactic Empire with himself as Emperor. Anakin Skywalker turns to the dark side, and becomes Darth Vader.
    The Great Jedi Purge is orchestrated by Palpatine and Vader and almost all Jedi are hunted down and killed including Ki-Adi-Mundi, Aayla Secura, Plo Koon, Stass Allie, Luminara Unduli, and Barriss Offee; only a handful of Jedi Knights survive.
    Darth Vader kills the Separatist Council in cold blood on Mustafar. Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi then duel. Vader loses both his legs and his left arm in the battle, then burns alive. He is rescued by Darth Sidious and rebuilt as part-man, part-machine.
    Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa are born to Padmé Amidala, who dies in childbirth (although not directly from childbirth itself- the details behind why she died are obscure and often debated, seeing as the medical staff said she was 'perfectly healthy'). Obi-Wan Kenobi, a survivor of the Great Jedi Purge leaves Luke with Anakin's step brother Owen Lars and Leia with Bail Organa, so they cannot be discovered by the Empire.
    Two Jedi Masters, having escaped the Great Jedi Purge, go in exile. Obi-Wan Kenobi in a remote desert on Tatooine, Yoda in a swamp on Dagobah. They will await the coming of age of Luke Skywalker.
    The first resistance to Imperial rule comes up. All of these events set the stage for the Galactic Civil War.
    Construction of the Death Star secretly begins.
    Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
    Several weeks after his defeat on Mustafar, Darth Vader makes his public debut as Palpatine's emissary and enforcer. The galaxy at large is told that Anakin Skywalker died in the assault on the Jedi Temple. No explanation of his origin is told to the public, but there is widespread speculation in the media he was an apprentice of Count Dooku, or possibly a Jedi who aided Palpatine in wiping out the Jedi order. Rumors begin to circulate in many quarters that he is a Sith Lord.
    A handful of Jedi who escaped the initial phases of the Great Jedi Purge try to band together and resist the empire, but are hunted relentlessly through the galaxy by Lord Vader, on one of his first official assignments.
    The planet Kashyyyk suffers significant ecological damage from orbital bombardment while over 200,000 wookiees are captured for enslavement. The official explanation for the enslavement of the wookiees is that it is a sanction for the planet providing sanctuary to fugitive Jedi.
    c. 17 BBY
    Mara Jade is born on an unknown planet.
    15 BBY - Star Wars: Droids (animated series)
    C-3PO and R2-D2 have even more misadventures together with their masters Jann Tosh and Mungo Baobab.
    13 BBY
    Firmus Piett is a lieutenant at age 26.
    5 BBY
    Han Solo, now in a military academy, saves Chewbacca, now a slave, and is subsequently drummed out of the Imperial Navy. Chewbacca pledges a life-debt to Han Solo and remains his partner for the next three decades.
    3 BBY
    Star Wars: Empire at War
    Several allied anti-Imperial resistance movements that will lead to the Rebel Alliance increase their activity against the Empire, slowly escalating from small-scale guerilla activity to more organized and direct confrontation.
    2 BBY
    The Rebel Alliance takes shape with the signing of the Corellian Treaty and the Declaration of Rebellion in the Cantham House Meetings on Coruscant; and the Corellian System Meetings between Mon Mothma, Bail Organa and Garm Bel Iblis, unifying their disparate resistance efforts into one organization.
    1 BBY
    Bail Organa retires from the Galactic/Imperial Senate after 31 years and his adopted daughter Leia is appointed to serve his unexpired term as Senator of Alderaan until the Senate election that is due the following year.
    Much of the senior staff and design team of Incom Corporation defect to the Rebel Alliance, most notably bringing with them the plans and prototypes for the T-65 X-Wing starfighter that was under development.
    Operation Skyhook; the first major victory of the Rebel Alliance over the Galactic Empire. A coordinated effort across the entire Rebellion including communication satellites captured and reprogrammed by the Rebel fleet as well as a commando raid undertaken by Kyle Katarn leads to the theft of the plans to the Death Star, and the Rebellion being aware of the construction of the superweapon.

    [edit] At the time of the Battle of Yavin (0 BBY/ABY)
    0 BBY
    Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
    Princess Leia's blockade runner the Tantive IV is captured by Darth Vader and droids C-3PO and R2-D2 land on Tatooine and come into the service of Luke Skywalker.
    Obi-Wan Kenobi finds Luke, who was beaten by Tusken Raiders, and receives R2-D2's secret message.
    A squad of Imperial Stormtroopers kill a sandcrawler of Jawas, and massacre Owen and Beru Lars, Luke Skywalker's uncle and aunt, leaving him without any immediate family (except for his sister, who was then unknown to be his sister and his father, Darth Vader, who was then unknown to be his father). That motivated him to become a Jedi. At first, Luke Skywalker thought the Sandpeople killed the Jawas, but Obi-Wan Kenobi's closer inspection revealed that the Imperial Stormtroopers killed them, and were responsible for killing the Lars'.
    The Imperial Senate is disbanded, giving Palpatine absolute power. Officially it is "Suspended for the Duration of the Galactic Emergency", but this euphemism fools nobody. Even Palpatine's loyalists know the Imperial Senate will never meet again.
    After Leia refuses to disclose the location of the rebel base, Grand Moff Tarkin orders the Death Star to destroy her home world of Alderaan, killing her adoptive father, Bail Organa. Garm Bel Iblis soon leaves the Rebel Alliance due to disagreements with Mon Mothma, taking some of his forces, although most of his troops remain with the Alliance. This leaves Mon Mothma as the leader of the Rebel Alliance.
    Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi meet Han Solo and Chewbacca and go to the death star with C-3PO and R2-D2 to rescue Princess Leia.
    Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader have their final duel, resulting in the death of Kenobi, but his spirit lives on.
    The Battle of Yavin. Luke Skywalker destroys the Death Star before it can destroy the Rebel base on Yavin 4, with the assistance of Han Solo and Obi-Wan Kenobi's spirit. Luke Skywalker and Han Solo join the Rebel Alliance. Grand Moff Tarkin and Admiral Motti die in the destruction of the Death Star, and Darth Vader becomes Palpatine's ruthless second-in-command.

    [edit] After the Battle of Yavin (ABY)
    1 ABY
    The Super Star Destroyer Executor is launched under the command of Captain Kendal Ozzel. It is dispatched to destroy the Rebel base on Yavin, but a miscalculation by Admiral Griff allows the Rebels to escape. Ozzel is promoted to Admiral and Piett assumes position of Captain of the Executor.
    Bakura joins the Empire.
    2 ABY
    An Imperial force led by Darth Vader catches up to some of the Rebels on Ord Mantell. It is here that Darth Vader learns the name of the Rebel who destroyed the Death Star, Luke Skywalker. While on Ord Mantell, a bounty hunter working for Jabba the Hutt nearly captures Han Solo.
    The Imperials stage an Ambush at Derra IV on a Rebel convoy. The loss was a terrible blow to the Alliance.
    3 ABY
    Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
    The Battle of Hoth. The Empire discovers the Alliance's secret base on the ice planet Hoth and attacks the Rebel Base successfully, with many Rebel casualties.
    Admiral Ozzel is killed by Darth Vader for incompetence and Captain Piett assumes command of Vader's fleet.
    Admiral Piett and Vader lead the Imperial Fleet into an asteroid field, and suffer heavy losses.
    Luke Skywalker discovers Yoda on Dagobah, but halts his training and promises to return.
    Boba Fett captures Han Solo to take him to Jabba the Hutt, after Solo is frozen in carbonite on Cloud City. Lando Calrissian joins the Alliance.
    During a confrontation between the two, Darth Vader reveals to Luke Skywalker that he is his father, but Luke is uncertain about whether it is true.
    Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
    Bothan spies learn that a second Death Star is under construction, and warn the Rebellion of its location.
    Luke Skywalker goes to Obi-Wan's hut in Tatooine to build a new (green) lightsaber. The lightsaber was similar to Obi-Wan's lightsaber because Obi-Wan has his own lightsaber building instructions at his hut.
    Dash Rendar blows up the Black Sun Skyhook and is thought to be killed in the attack, though in fact he has survived.
    Prince Xizor is killed by Darth Vader and Black Sun collapses.
    4 ABY
    Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
    Han Solo is rescued from Jabba the Hutt, and Jabba is killed by Leia Organa. Boba Fett is imprisoned in the Sarlacc, but later escapes by detonating his rocket jet-pack and is rescued by the bounty hunter Dengar. Warlords begin to wage war over Jabba's criminal empire.
    Luke returns to Dagobah to keep a promise to complete his training. Yoda dies of old age after confirming that Darth Vader is Luke's father, and also tells of another Skywalker. Luke senses that Leia Organa is his sister as he talks with the spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi, who confirms that Luke's feeling is correct. Luke later passes this information on to her on Endor.
    The Battle of Endor. Lando Calrissian, Wedge Antilles and Nien Nunb destroy the second Death Star, virtually ending the Galactic Civil War. They have help from the Ewok's fighting through Imperial forces to let a squad reach a ground station that emits a protective force field around the Death Star. The Empire is brought to an end and begins to tear itself apart through warlordism. Admiral Piett dies when the Executor crashes into the Death Star.
    Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker is turned back from the dark side of the Force by the efforts of Luke Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker destroys Emperor Palpatine to save his son's life, but he is mortally wounded in the process. He thus fufills the prophecy, bringing balance to the Force by eliminating the Sith. Luke cremates Anakin's body on Endor. Luke sees the spirits of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Yoda during the celebration on Endor.
    Star Wars: The Truce at Bakura
    The Rebel Alliance becomes the Alliance of Free Planets and recruits systems across the galaxy for the reformation of the Republic.
    Battle of Bakura: First ceasefire between Alliance and Imperial forces, though only so they could unite to drive away the Ssi-Ruuk invaders. Bakura leaves the Empire.
    The spectral form of Anakin Skywalker briefly appears to Leia Organa.
    One month after the Battle of Endor, Mon Mothma declares the restoration of the Old Galactic Republic; the Alliance of Free Planets becomes the New Republic. (Date locked by the Essential Chronology)
    Sate Pestage, Palpatine's Grand Vizier and Head of Government, takes over as the de facto ruler of the Galactic Empire.
    5 ABY
    Luke Skywalker attains the rank of General. Six months later, after Imperial forces under the command of Lord Shadowspawn fought to the last man against his army, he retires from the military. (promotion and retirement locked by the Essential Chronology and the New Essential Guide to Characters)
    Ysanne Isard applies backstabbing maneuvers to overtake the Empire and rule as empress, deposing Sate Pestage.
    6 ABY
    The Core Worlds Campaign, the fledgling New Republic moves from using guerilla tactics to open warfare and begins a campaign to take and hold territory from the rapidly crumbling Galactic Empire, which quickly proceeds to capturing worlds in the Core Worlds region of the galaxy with the goal of taking Coruscant as the capital world of the New Republic.
    7 ABY
    Star Wars: The Bacta War
    The New Republic takes Coruscant back from what remains of the Empire.
    Ysanne Isard leaves an artificial virus behind on Coruscant to take the sweetness out of the New Republic's victory.
    The New Republic secures the needed bacta from Thyferra to eliminate the plague.
    Isard fakes her death and disappears.
    8 ABY
    Leia Organa marries Han Solo.
    Prince Isolder allies the Hapes Consortium with the New Republic.
    Imperial warlord Warlord Zsinj dies.
    9 ABY
    Star Wars: The Thrawn Trilogy
    Jaina and Jacen Solo are born to Leia Organa and Han Solo.
    Grand Admiral Thrawn's attempt to destroy the New Republic and restore dignity to the Galactic Empire fails. He is subsequently assassinated.
    The Noghri switch sides between the Empire and the New Republic when they discovered the Empire had been manipulating them and polluting their world.
    Raynar Thul is born on an unknown planet (approximate date).
    Obi-Wan Kenobi visits Luke for the last time as a force ghost before his spirit moves on.
    10 ABY
    Star Wars: Dark Empire
    Palpatine is reborn in a clone body, rapidly rallies the Galactic Empire to much of its former strength, and turns Luke Skywalker to the dark side, but Luke returns to the light side and kills Palpatine with Leia, destroying his flagship Eclipse.
    Anakin Solo is born to Leia Organa and Han Solo.
    11 ABY
    Star Wars: Empire's End
    The Emperor returns again, but Empatajayos Brand destroys his life-force. Brand dies and Palpatine is ultimately dead. R2-D2 destroys Eclipse II and the Galaxy Gun, causing the destruction of the Imperial Fleet of Palpatine and planet Byss, where cloning machines of Palpatine are located.
    Luke Skywalker assumes the title of Jedi Master.
    With Palpatine permanently dead and his fleets decimated, the first Galactic Empire is definiatively defeated.
    Luke Skywalker establishes a Jedi academy on Yavin 4.
    The New Republic establish the Star Tours travel company. R2-D2 and C-3PO are sent to help safe guard the passengers.
    The New Republic attacks the Death Star prototype built by Maw Instillation and guarded by Admiral Daala's Star Destroyer squadron.
    12 ABY
    Admiral Daala begins to reunify the Galactic Empire. Destroying opposing warlords and rallying some to her side, she allies with Vice Admiral Pellaeon and the remnants of Thrawn's faction to create the a unified face of the Empire. After a unsuccessful strike on Yavin IV, Daala hands control of the fleet to Pellaeon.
    Durga the Hutt, the new leader of the Black Sun crime syndicate, working with Bevel Lemelisk (a leading designer of the Death Star), begins the Darksaber project. Durga attempts to build a superlaser weapon platform with as much firepower as the Death Star, but without the giant space station around it. A New Republic military operation destroys the Darksaber while it is under construction, although General Crix Madine is killed in the attack.
    13 ABY
    Daala and Pellaeon continue to unify the various Imperial factions, gathering support from many scattered Imperial remnants. The Empire largely moves to the Outer Rim Territories. A significant area of the galaxy, from the Mid Rim to Wild Space is firmly controlled by the Empire. The term "Imperial Remnant" first enters use to refer to this reunified Empire.
    A bioterrorism threat against the New Republic called the "Death Seed Plague" ends with the loss of the Imperial Remnant losing the Antemeridian Sector to the New Republic, a major defeat for the newly reunified Empire.
    14 ABY
    The Empire Reborn movement, lead by Lord Hethrir and aided by the Dark Jedi Desann, attempts to rebuild the dark-side minions of the Empire by recruiting his own force-sensitive individuals as well as kidnapping students of the Jedi Praxeum, attempting to convert them all to the Dark Side, as well as augmenting them through Sith alchemy.
    A bizarre extradimensional entity known as "Waru" attempts to return to its home dimension by devouring force sensitive individuals.
    Following the defeat of the Empire Reborn movement, armed conflict between the Imperial Remnant and the New Republic drops off. While skirmishes and small-scale battles still occur, major offensives cease and the conflict seems to almost turn into a "Cold War".
    15 ABY
    In the quietest, most peaceful year since the founding of the New Republic, a fleet of new Nebula-class Star Destroyers is commissioned. Although construction began during more active hostilities, the New Republic Senate raises many questions about the continuing military buildup while the Empire appears to be in decline.
    16 ABY
    The outbreak of the Black Fleet Crisis ends a period of relative peace in the Galaxy. Yevethan forces (former Imperial slaves who overthrew their masters) using captured Imperial ships begin a genocidal campaign to conquer the Koornacht Cluster by killing all non-Yevethans. The New Republic is forced to fight in its own defense, as well as to rescue hostages held by the Yevethans (including Han Solo).
    Luke Skywalker meets the Fallanassi, a mysterious and secretive sect of Force users who are total pacifists. Luke learns new Force techniques and philosophies from them, and gains their help to aid the New Republic in one battle, but then the Fallanassi leave known space.
    17 ABY
    A bill to allow former Imperial officials to hold office in the New Republic develops into a massive scandal. Politically the New Republic grinds to a halt, while Leia Organa-Solo faces a No Confidence motion for her opposition to the measure, and temporarily steps down from office in favor of Mon Mothma until the crisis is resolved.
    Kueller and Brakiss, Dark Jedi who were formerly students of the Jedi Academy, take advantage of growing political strife in the New Republic to try and overthrow the New Republic government.
    18 ABY
    In the aftermath of the recent scandals, the Imperial Remnant attempts a massive campaign to retake the galaxy, hoping to take advantage of political strife in the New Republic. The campaign is a massive disaster, leading to the Imperial Remnant losing most of its territory, it is pushed back to holding only 8 sectors of the Galaxy in the Outer Rim. In the campaign, Admiral Daala's ship was crippled and lost, while not confirmed dead, she has never been seen since.
    Thrackan Sal-Solo (first cousin to Han Solo), leads the Corellian Insurrection, his plot to become a dictatorial ruler of the Corellian Sector. Politically vilified for intervening in the affair, Leia Organa-Solo resigns as Chief of State of the New Republic and retires from politics.
    19 ABY
    Star Wars: The Hand of Thrawn
    A plan to restore the Empire's stature using an impostor of Grand Admiral Thrawn is foiled.
    Luke Skywalker marries Mara Jade.
    The New Republic and the remains of the Empire sign a peace treaty ending all legalized conflict between the Empire and the New Republic.
    Leia Organa Solo returns to the office of Chief of State.
    23 ABY
    Jacen and Jaina Solo, now Jedi at Luke Skywalker's academy, fight against the Second Imperium, which attempts to disrupt the peace between the New Republic and "Imperial Remnant," as it had become known, and restart the Galactic Civil War.
    Jedi Academy students, including Jacen, Jaina and Anakin, aid in the Jedi Praxeum's reconstruction after being attacked by the Shadow Academy
    Leia Organa Solo permanately resigns, and Borsk Fey'lya is elected Chief of State of the New Republic.
    24 ABY
    The "Diversity Alliance," an extremist anti-human organization, is defeated by the New Republic.
    Jacen, Jaina, Anakin, Tenel Ka, Lowbacca and Zekk are promoted to apprentice Jedi Knights at the Jedi Praxeum.
    Mon Mothma dies.
    25 ABY
    Star Wars: The New Jedi Order begins
    The Yuuzhan Vong invade the galaxy. Chewbacca dies at Sernpidal, when a moon is pulled out of its orbit and crashes into its planet.
    The New Republic Historical Council sets the year of the Battle of Yavin to the year zero, adopting the current date system.
    27 ABY
    Ben Skywalker is born to Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade.
    Anakin Solo dies during the mission to Myrkr, after destroying the voxyn cloning samples.
    The Yuuzhan Vong conquer Coruscant,Chief of State Borsk Fey'lya dies, and the New Republic all but disintegrates. Cal Omas is elected Chief of State and restores order.
    28 ABY
    Ganner Rhysode dies.
    The New Republic is replaced by the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances.
    30 ABY
    Coruscant is liberated from the Yuuzhan Vong. Zonama Sekot forges a peace accord between the Galactic Alliance and the Yuuzhan Vong. The war ends after five years. The death toll over the known galaxy that resulted from the invasion was estimated at about 365 trillion sentients.
    35 ABY-36 ABY
    Star Wars: The Dark Nest Trilogy
    Efforts to rebuild Galactic civlilization after the Yuuzhan Vong war continue, with many war-torn worlds still under reconstruction.
    A border war between the Chiss and Killik threatens to engulf the galaxy, especially as some younger members of the Jedi intervene in the war without permission.
    Luke Skywalker discovers hidden and protected memory files deep within R2-D2. They contain recordings of his parents and Obi-Wan from the Clone Wars. Luke and Leia finally learn who their mother was, and begin to understand how their father fell to the Dark Side.
    Allana is born to Jacen Solo and Tenel Ka in secrecy.
    The Jedi, struggling to come to terms with a new role in the galaxy and a new philosophy on the Force are called upon to act as police and diplomats by the Galactic Alliance. Despite initially resisting these changes, Luke Skywalker comes to a deeper understanding of the role of Jedi in the galaxy, and his role as the leader of the Jedi.
    40 ABY
    Legacy of the Force
    The Galactic Alliance teeters on the brink of civil war, as a large movement in the galaxy, centered on Corellia, believe it is becoming so authoritarian and draconian as to be turning into a new Empire.
    A major schism occurs between the Solo and Skywalker families during the war, as the Solos support the insurrection against what they see as a new Empire forming, while the Skywalker family supports what they see as the legitimate government.
    Lumiya, former Emperor's Hand, has learned the ways of the Sith and is rebuilding the Sith, and courts Jacen Solo as her new apprentice.
    41 ABY
    The Galactic Alliance begins the Ossus Project, a long-term plan to use Yuuzhan Vong terraforming technology to rebuild worlds ruined in the Yuuzhan Vong war. 100 worlds from around the Galaxy devastated by the Yuuzhan Vong war are chosen for development.
    127 ABY
    The Ossus project is sabotaged by the rebuilt Sith order. Worlds rebuilt with Vong technology turn sickly and dying, and their inhabitants grow painful bony protrusions like those formerly found on Vong slaves. The Ossus Project is discredited, the Jedi backing the project are disgraced, and the crisis causes the rebuilt Galactic Empire (formerly the Imperial Remnant) to declare war on the Galactic Alliance.
    127 ABY-130 ABY
    The Sith-Imperial War, where the reborn Sith order lead by Darth Krayt uses the war they have begun to seize power of the Imperial throne, and conquer the Galaxy.
    130 ABY
    The Sith-Imperial War ends with the defeat of the Alliance forces at the Battle of Caamas, and Coruscant being conquered by the resurgent Galactic Empire. The Galactic Alliance surrenders, but remnants of the Alliance military continue to fight on as a rebellion.
    The Massacre at Ossus occurs, as Darth Nihl leads an overwhelming assault on the Jedi Praxeum at Ossus, devastating the Jedi order. Some surviving Jedi pledge their loyalty to the Galactic Empire, becoming the Imperial Knights.
    130 ABY-137 ABY
    Star Wars: Legacy
    Cade Skywalker, the great-great-grandson of Luke Skywalker (as per Skywalker family tree), was trained to be a Jedi, but walked away from the Jedi Order to become a pirate and later a bounty hunter. He begins to rediscover his destiny as a member of the Skywalker clan, and rises to challenge the reborn Sith.

  3. #4243
    Quote Originally Posted by TW Scott View Post
    Look, this whole thing comes down to numbers. SW just has more.

    More Ships
    More Worlds
    More Tech
    More Speed
    More Weapons
    More Firepower
    More People

    It's that cut and dried.

    I love Star Trek as much as I love Star Wars and truth be told I would prefer Star Trek to win, but wanting it so doesn't make it so. Star Wars is the clear winner in a war situation.
    Sorry, Nutcase

    but If I said it once I've said it a thousands times... Trek...the Federation it'self has more different types of weapons than Star Wars ever could and more fire power and different ways to get it.

    EXAMPLE:

    The Enterprise D, Galaxy class starship carries up toward 6 to 8 times more firepower array to turrent than the Imperial Star Destroyer...

    But the Galaxy isn't the the best offensive ship Trek has. In a comprable comparison. Defiant and Galaxy have fought many of the same targets. The most formidable of which were the Jem'hadar attack ships (63 meters length)

    In Odyessy's engagement with the three attack fighters the GCS didn't destroy a single vessel in the five mins of battle.

    However against the same odds..Defiant consistently takes out all three vessels. Each vessel taking only 3 sec. to destroy

    That puts Defiant's effective firepower at a hundred times more powerful. than

  4. #4244
    @JODOKAST872

    Dude is that all you have to say so how does this cade skywalker defeat the Sith
    Don't leave us hanging in the dark
    peace
    Last edited by Lord Vasago; 05-22-07 at 07:37 AM.

  5. #4245
    ohboy "FoolfromHell" and "Kittamaru" gonna have a ball with this one

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    And none of that matters.

    Why?

    Half those people are dead now, at least according to book and movie sources. The mainstay of the jedi and sith forces are kinda gone now. To top things off, most jedi seem very hesitent about using their powers directly- shoving people around hardly does a lot.

    The sith might be a problem but I say, once more:

    UNIVERSE vs UNIVERSE, the Q would not let their pets (humanity) be destroyed. They would probably do one of a few things:

    A) Catch all of Star Wars in a temporal loop, forcing them to relive the same span of time over and over.

    B) Simply transport them to the other side of the universe (leaving their ships where they were of course )

    C) Disable all the circuitry onboard the Wars ships, rending them useless

    D) Crash an A-wing through the bridge of every Star Destroyer, just to spite them.

    Trek would win, hands down. It might take time, but they would. Why? Because, unlike in Star Wars, their COMBAT ships can actually withstand decent weapons fire. Unlike in Star Wars, ground pounder can aim pretty well and, even when they aren't that great, the phaser itself will attempt to compensate (up to a 30 degree angle- this is proven by cannon sources)

    And Scott, if you want to keep extrapolating imaginary data, be my guest- anyone you fool is obviously not worth keeping around so in either case you're only hurting your cause. You keep saying the Voth wont' help because of who they are... the Q wont' help because of what they do... all bullshit. if this is true, and the whole intergalactic war isn't provocation to help, then the Empire and Rebels will never, I repeat, NEVER manage to work together long enough. Most of their officers will die when they fail to heat the bath water to the right temperature anyway.

    And, as has been pointed out many time:

    You got beat by freaking furbies! What the hell?

  7. #4247
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    And none of that matters.

    Why?

    Half those people are dead now, at least according to book and movie sources. The mainstay of the jedi and sith forces are kinda gone now. To top things off, most jedi seem very hesitent about using their powers directly- shoving people around hardly does a lot.

    The sith might be a problem but I say, once more:

    UNIVERSE vs UNIVERSE, the Q would not let their pets (humanity) be destroyed. They would probably do one of a few things:

    A) Catch all of Star Wars in a temporal loop, forcing them to relive the same span of time over and over.

    B) Simply transport them to the other side of the universe (leaving their ships where they were of course )

    C) Disable all the circuitry onboard the Wars ships, rending them useless

    D) Crash an A-wing through the bridge of every Star Destroyer, just to spite them.

    Trek would win, hands down. It might take time, but they would. Why? Because, unlike in Star Wars, their COMBAT ships can actually withstand decent weapons fire. Unlike in Star Wars, ground pounder can aim pretty well and, even when they aren't that great, the phaser itself will attempt to compensate (up to a 30 degree angle- this is proven by cannon sources)

    And Scott, if you want to keep extrapolating imaginary data, be my guest- anyone you fool is obviously not worth keeping around so in either case you're only hurting your cause. You keep saying the Voth wont' help because of who they are... the Q wont' help because of what they do... all bullshit. if this is true, and the whole intergalactic war isn't provocation to help, then the Empire and Rebels will never, I repeat, NEVER manage to work together long enough. Most of their officers will die when they fail to heat the bath water to the right temperature anyway.

    And, as has been pointed out many time:

    You got beat by freaking furbies! What the hell?
    TWSCOTT....MASTER OF THE IMAGINARY STATS.

  8. #4248
    Quote Originally Posted by Jodokast872 View Post
    Ok back to the whole ST vs. SW, I am still thinking it is clear cut. I agree with previous posts. Even though it is Universe vs. Universe, Star Wars has been around much longer than recorded star trek.

    .
    Been around longer...and got the least done....

  9. #4249

    Thumbs up Star Wars will win

    If the universe of Star Wars and Star Trek collided, Star Wars will win because it contains spirituality in the form of the Force while Star Trek does not. Star Trek is the height of intellectualism manifested in either Spock and/or Data. Star Wars, on the other hand, is about an elusive Force and the art of the Light Saber. It goes beyond the physical realm and catches our imagination beyond the plane of space-time. Thus, IMHO, Star Trek is missing a component that Star Wars offers. Now, only if there were Star Wars series...life would be so much better...

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    Uhm... no.

    You are forgetting races like:

    Betazoids
    Q
    Random psychic humans (Tasha Yar was a good example)
    Kes

    and a host of others who's power rivals even the force.

    The Vulcans and their telepathic enhancers would overwhelm even the most powerful of jedi!

  11. #4251
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    Dontai, that isn't true. Most of the "windows" are projected images. Only the bridge and observation deck (and the observatory or astrometrics labs if the ship has them) have real "windows", and those normally have very heavy armored windows over them AND force fields for it the windows should fail.

    This is proven via Star Trek: First Contact.

    Trek ships have the Bridge on the top of the ship for view, but it is also where the strongest shields are concentrated. That and the bridge is armored... unlike the 6 inch thick styrofoam of the SSD...
    There is also the battle bridge...

  12. #4252
    Quote Originally Posted by TW Scott View Post
    First of all it is Beam,


    Quote Originally Posted by TW Scott View Post
    Fired Wesley anyone.
    You have the audacity to correct other's spelling, yet you misspell "fried" as "fired"...
    Plus, you forgot a comma before "anyone".

  13. #4253
    Quote Originally Posted by TW Scott View Post
    Read above and learn my friend. Or better yet, just start thinking. Borg have shown no ability to adapt to PHYSICAL weapons and Blasters are quite obviously physical.
    The Borg didnt adapt to the machine gun in FC since they didnt expect material weapons...
    They can adapt easily...
    Plus, blasters are ENERGY.
    NOT MASS.
    Bowcasters are mass though...
    Doesnt matter. The Borg can defend.

  14. #4254
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Vasago View Post
    Now that's the fun in sci-fi; you can make stuff up and just assume that a species that can travel at the speed of light have the tech to navigate.
    yee think about it 18lightyears/sec. And let me guess the can navigate in transwarp too.
    If using transwarp conduits, its like a bunch of tunnels. you can choose which one.
    The Voth have had warp tech for 65+ Million Years!
    They can figure SOMETHING out!
    I mean, seriously...
    65+ million years!

  15. #4255
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Vasago View Post
    I'm wondering these Voth you keep mentioning are from another Universe if i get you wright? would they them be affected but the collision of ST-SW universes? If they have 65 million years of experience in spacetravel they would probably known the SW universe before ST universe was even born.

    I sorry i'm not so up to date on this stuff but aren't species8472 also not from another universe? so do they even count?
    The Voth lay claim to a decent part of the Delta Quadrant and call it their ancestral home. They dont usually go outside, but a few time-travel episodes seem to indicate taht the 30th Century Federation includes the Voth.
    Species 8472 is part of the ST "Universe" as in, everything that exists in ST.
    If you go that way, Hyperspace is in a different "universe" than SW, meaning no hyperspace at all...

  16. #4256
    Quote Originally Posted by Jodokast872 View Post
    Star Wars has been around much longer than recorded star trek.
    maybe, but the first hyperspace engines were like 49,000 BBY....
    The Rakatans were the first.
    And the oldest suriving species is no more than a few ten thousand years old.
    The difference in tech between Kotor and the movies is minimal...
    Thats over 4000 years...
    in ST, the Voth have had Warp or even Transwarp for 65 MILLION YEARS...
    They have VERY fast engines.
    Hell, their smaller science vessels could do 18 light years/ second and their city ship can clearly do as much, if not more...
    Active civs in SW are much younger than active civs in ST...
    The only species in this Universe vs. Universe would be species presented in the movies/shows/books/videogames/ other...
    If some character talks about a civilization millions/billions of years ago, they cant be included. They have to SHOW UP in the sources...

  17. #4257
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoolFromHell View Post
    The Borg didnt adapt to the machine gun in FC since they didnt expect material weapons...
    They can adapt easily...
    Plus, blasters are ENERGY.
    NOT MASS.
    Bowcasters are mass though...
    Doesnt matter. The Borg can defend.
    All weapons are energy weapons, be it kinetic or heat or electrical. However Blasters fire a bolt of charged particles with enough force that they knock down grown men. That seeaks of the bolt have some mass and a high amount of kinetic energy in addition to the heat.

    Come on, i know you flunked physics but you can't be that stupid.


    By the way, since the Borg have first started assimilating they have faced foes with physical weapons form machine gun to melee weapons and we have NEVER seen one adapt to be immune to a physical attack.
    Last edited by TW Scott; 05-22-07 at 05:49 PM.

  18. #4258
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoolFromHell View Post
    maybe, but the first hyperspace engines were like 49,000 BBY....
    Yes, the humans invented Hyperspace travel around that time.

    The Rakatans were the first.
    The Rakatans explored much of the known galaxy before hyperspace, suggesting an alternate FTL.


    And the oldest suriving species is no more than a few ten thousand years old.
    Your proof?

    The difference in tech between Kotor and the movies is minimalThats over 4000 years...
    So, people don't tend to make new technologies resemble familiar forms? Oh wait that is a very common thing.

    in ST, the Voth have had Warp or even Transwarp for 65 MILLION YEARS...
    They have VERY fast engines.
    Actually they never said they used Warp to leave Earth, just ships. They only recently broke transwarp becuase their religon and beliefs were vehemently against it.

    Hell, their smaller science vessels could do 18 light years/ second and their city ship can clearly do as much, if not more...
    And you have provided no proof odf this claim.

    Active civs in SW are much younger than active civs in ST...
    Actually no, but i would not expect you to understand that.


    The only species in this Universe vs. Universe would be species presented in the movies/shows/books/videogames/ other...
    If some character talks about a civilization millions/billions of years ago, they cant be included. They have to SHOW UP in the sources...
    Again Canon does not includ computer and video games. BTW that means ST is effed becuase several times force ghost and darkside ghosts appear in SW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busta View Post
    Sweeeet!

    ......back up to 12 'cuz some mod deleeted my posts....

    Alright so you are ST side, choose offense or defense.

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    lol, i do happen to own the SW roleplaying game and SFB from the eighties lol Last one was a steal at 20 bucks for the books counters play mats and hundreds of copies of ship displays.

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