05-18-07, 06:59 PM #4181
For example. the Enterprise A-E + J since A-E and J are confirmed to exist.
Plus, everything in between E and J obviously existed since J exists...
Plus, for example. the Timeship Relativity plus Zefram Cochrane's Phoenix will be in the battle too, but the latter wont do much help...
The Trade Federation Control Ships will fight alongside ISDs and Acclamators.
In-Universe rivalries are put aside, and everybody helps everybody.
The Jedi and Sith work together. The Voth, Borg, and Dominion will work with the Federation, even though they dont exactly like each other. This includes Q and any other supernatural beings including the prohpets and TOS gods.
Naboo fighters can fight alongside with
We are so "agitated" due to TWScott's sense of logic.
it is extremely illogical that he will pursue a path like this and not admit to the truth.
Edit: page 209 was devoid of TWScott! Yahoo!
05-18-07, 07:05 PM #4182
05-18-07, 07:11 PM #4183
Please dont insult anybody.
It was bad enough with TWScott. We arent here to strangle people to death...
05-18-07, 07:22 PM #4184
Vote Worf as the new Klingon Leader. ....
05-18-07, 09:19 PM #4185
05-18-07, 09:38 PM #4186
The Voth have transwarp engines without need for conduits.
You have stated that the Jedi+ Sith will work together... They HATE EACH OTHER MORE THAN THE VOTH's XENOPHOBIA.
If it is universe vs. universe, the Voth WOULD help.
It was a continuous screen capture. No break, clearly indicating it was 5 seconds. The Voth just were xenophobic and didnt help Voyager. After the Universe vs. Universe, the xenophobia wont matter.
The ST ships obviously have a defense against this tactic. By your logic, if its obvious, its true...
The SW ships dont have a defense against this tactic.
R2 got power of the shields later on.
Anakin had no power over weapons
So you admit im right on those counts.
Thank you. SW weapons are NOT over a few kilotons max now...
You admitted it. no going back.
05-18-07, 09:42 PM #4187
The Ferengi stopped trading with the Dominion during the dominion wars...
SW will need to scout out an ENTIRE GALAXY AGAIN.
Its nearly impossible to do it before being detected...
05-18-07, 09:52 PM #4188
The Death Star II when completed would have been the ultimate Starbase. Planetary shields overlapping creating a impenetrable protective coccoon. Enough firepower to blow apart any planet in SW galaxy, no matter it's size, composition or defenses. Thousands of tubolaser batteries, missiles, millions of troops and crew. and hundreds of fighters.
The Suncrusher had a super dense armor that could take a strike from a Heavy Turbolaser and the craft itself could reach .999c. Not to mention the torpedoes that could cuase any type of star to go super nova.
and there were more, from the gigantic Yuuzhan Vong Worldships to the unassuming Staff of Darkness.
05-18-07, 09:56 PM #4189
05-18-07, 10:02 PM #4190
Look, this whole thing comes down to numbers. SW just has more.
It's that cut and dried.
I love Star Trek as much as I love Star Wars and truth be told I would prefer Star Trek to win, but wanting it so doesn't make it so. Star Wars is the clear winner in a war situation.
05-18-07, 11:02 PM #4191
Quality > Quantity little scott.
You're as bad as they come- you think it's clear cut and it's not.
Star Trek has a few very powerful weapons they don't use for the simple fact it's immoral- fighting someone like the empire, where their existance is at stake, they would say fuck the prime directive and lets go all out. They would Genesis Device your planets, Neutrino Burst your hyperdrives, beam your people into space, and generally do whatever it takes to survive. In the end, no matter what, Star Trek wins. hands down, cut and dried(tm).
You're numbers are bogus.
It is said, CANNON STAR WARS, that HyperDrive is at best what, 1.5x light speed? It is said CANNON STAR TREK that Warp 1 is a little better than Light Speed. Warp nine is a factor of 10*10^9 and then some better (depending on which era warp equation you use)
Thus it stands to reason the Wars galaxy is much smaller given these CANNON numbers.
The fact of the matter is, Scott, that you cannot back ANY of your claims with solid proof- you pull and sift information out that isn't there and try to disprove information that is. In the movies they specificly said the shields WERE up because the fish face said:
"IT'S A TRAP"
So yeah... shields were up... protected by shields from the moon... particle shields, which you claim can block solid objects. Apparently not.
*sighs* I'm tired of fighting with bogus factoids... to all the facts that you claim "There is no evidence to the contrary", please remember there is ALSO no evidence to SUPPORT your claim.
05-18-07, 11:56 PM #4192
dune will rule in the end fremen no can bet them in miltary conflict the spaceguild navigaters can see the future. the telaxu or however you spell have facedancers assassins and can make clones the ix can make some wicked machins
05-19-07, 12:59 AM #4193
However, in the Voyager episode "Relativity," a Voth is seen manning the Navigation post on a 29th century Federation Timeship
From Memory Alpha.
"The Voth, rather than making a network of conduits, equip each ship with a transwarp engine. This special technology allows them to travel at transwarp without the need for a network."
There is NO proof that R2 raised shields or lowered weapon strength in the Naboo hangar bay. The novelization i have read doesnt mention any of this. Please back up with facts.
You have NO PROOF that SW weapons are as strong as the ICS books say since Episode 1, which is "higher canon" disproves it. Then, there are CANON NOVELS, which OUTWEIGH ICS, that says that the Fighters have 20 kilotons max.
05-19-07, 01:01 AM #4194
They will never trade with the Empire.
There is a 90% chance it wont be, and knowing the Empire, they will open fire the second they see the Federation ships...
05-19-07, 01:05 AM #4195
.999c means .999 the speed of LIGHT.
If any ship travels that close to the speed of LIGHT, it experiences relativism. It would take a few years inside it for a voyage, but hundreds of years would pass on the outside. The .999 speed of Light is extremely impractical. This shows exactly how UNSCIENTIFIC THE SW WRITERS ARE. They dont even know relativism...
Why are the Bioships so bad? They can EASILY destroy an entire solar system. They can open rifts PAST Death Star shields from their layer of fluidic space and they can bypass all shields. Thought about that? The only reason they didnt do it in ST is because they didnt need to.
You just state it doenst compare and give NO REASONS. Damn, I wish we had a neutral judge...
05-19-07, 01:12 AM #4196
Plus, ST has many many space stations plus, the Borg cubes are cities in space while they also occupy planets. Number of planets doesnt matter as much in ST. Then, think about this. The average federation soldier in ST lives a MUCH better life than any person in either the old/ new republic or the empire...
in the Klingon Empire and Borg Collective, almost 100% are ready-to-fight warriors. The Dominion has entire species dedicated to fighting. Last I checked, the Imperials never let any non-human into the Storm Trooper forces since they are extremely xenophobic. If they had let Wookies or a stronger race be their crack troops, they would be better, but they are too xenophobic. ST will use any species necessary, except Klingons will never use Ferengi.
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05-19-07, 01:14 AM #4197
05-19-07, 01:22 AM #4198
05-19-07, 10:07 AM #4199
I think we can put this one to bed... finally...
Trek Wins. Wars put up a good fight, but in the end all that remains were the smoldering cadavers and charred ruins of Wars ships and pilots.
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