Star Wars vs Star Trek

**George1** · 02-24-11, 09:27 AM

question: what would happen if kirk found himself in the star wars galaxy? now that would be fun............

**siphra** · 02-24-11, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by George1

question: what would happen if kirk found himself in the star wars galaxy? now that would be fun............

Luke and Leia Kirk... LOL

**George1** · 02-24-11, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by siphra

Luke and Leia Kirk... LOL

twi''lek females, behold!

**fedr808** · 02-24-11, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by George1

exactly. anyway, they made it in the first place. that's all that counts.

oh, and what about the sun crusher's main weapon? its capable of blowing up an entire star system. so much for the genesis device, but hey both were never heard of again.

Not exactly.

Genesis is better for one single reason, it wasn't meant to destroy but to create.

**George1** · 02-24-11, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by fedr808

Not exactly.

Genesis is better for one single reason, it wasn't meant to destroy but to create.

erm, yeah. so? it can destroy.

**George1** · 02-24-11, 10:57 AM

any way, everyone loses in front of Leonidas, Beowulf and CHUCK NORIS!

**Trekmonster** · 02-24-11, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by George1

question: what would happen if kirk found himself in the star wars galaxy? now that would be fun............

**siphra** · 02-24-11, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Trekmonster

This shop wins.

And yes, Chuck Norris beats all.

**fedr808** · 02-24-11, 01:23 PM

no, i think god emperor in warhammer 40k trumps norris.

**Trekmonster** · 02-24-11, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by fedr808

no, i think god emperor in warhammer 40k trumps norris.

Dude the "Q" used to be called the "S" but they were concerned people would think they were more powerful than they actually are because it was a letter Chuck Norris had in his name.

**Lord Vasago** · 02-24-11, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by siphra

Sorry, but earth armor from the middleages would not allow you to die from a rock to the head unless it was thrown by a catapult or other seige engine. They could actually hold off weapons to the head and keep the person alive, it's actually kind of the point of armor.
1st none of the troopers died 2nd I dare you to wear a motorcycle helmet ( better the a midevil helmet) i will use a wooden baseballstick and hit you. now you won't be dead but pretty knocked out.

Different technology groups != more or less advanced. Lets put it this way, most people own a car, but not a plane. The plane is a lot faster, but most planes are not more advanced than most cars. (Not counting military crap here, or commercial, I am thinking single engine, private planes think Cessna.) Just because its faster, doesn't mean its more advanced.
It doesn't have to be more advanced but the IMMENSE difference in speed is a HUGE advantage.
fe there are a few ST ships DS jumps out of hyperspace. attacks and goes back in hyperspace at his lowest speed. The ST ships go to warp and persue the ds. as they are far enough the DS jumps out and jumps back to the original point at max speed. It will be starting point with more than enough time to attack the target and leave before the ST ships get back.

in red

**siphra** · 02-24-11, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

in red

Ok, on count 1, NO a motorcycle helmet is not better than a middle ages full helm, I have both.. I wear both, and I practice medieval martial arts. (I ride a yamaha... ) so no.

And while yes, I will admit the ability of the empire to decide where a battle happens is impressive, once the fighting starts, the real space speed of a ship at warp will dominate local tactics.

**Lord Vasago** · 02-24-11, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Trekmonster

looooooool that would be the Kirk we know

**Kittamaru** · 02-24-11, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by George1

exactly. anyway, they made it in the first place. that's all that counts.

oh, and what about the sun crusher's main weapon? its capable of blowing up an entire star system. so much for the genesis device, but hey both were never heard of again.

By that logic, Star Trek made the Dyson Sphere/Genesis Device/Trilithium "supernova" torpedoes/ships that can fire through a perfect cloak/phase cloak/etc and that's all that counts

Your theory - it has more holes than swiss cheese...

And yes, Vasago - the stormtroopers hit by bow/arrow and rocks died... what's this crap about them just being knocked unconscious? Last time I checked, you didn't fall unconscious from a stone arrow to the neck, you DIED.

**Shogun** · 02-24-11, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by fedr808

Yah but the scientists whom created hyperspace are long dead, so its not like thats a good argument.

Actually IIRC it wasn't scientists, it was mystics, force-users ( I think the info was from the Kights of the Old Republic games, I am not sure though )

Also, it does have disadvantages. Unless you have accurate mapings of the galaxy then your liable to end up in a black hole or gravity well. And slamming into a gravity well at thousands of times the speed of light is generally unadvisable.

Exactly, that is the gotcha of hyperspace, it is fast, but need an accuate map. It works for Star Wars because everywhere have already been explored anyways. Or they can "explore" by getting countless outdated ships to fly with bombs in hyperspace, trial and error

**Shogun** · 02-24-11, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by siphra

It's like this: Let's just say that m-theory is right, (which I do not believe, I believe in testable standard model, and every time a version of m-theory dies I host a party.) Now, according to some models of M-theory, we are only a Planck Length away from any point in the universe. So lets say we have two groups doing research, one on a way of using this M-theory breakthrough for travel, the other on the Alcubierre Warp drive. The M-theory drive would be 'faster' but if we found a way of working the other one first it may be slower, but we might be able to make it far more efficient. (In fact, we might even give up on the M-theory drive, seeing no point in further research in that direction.)

The problem, just like Alcubierre drive is the tremendous amount of energy involved that would be incredibally destructive. Well, think about it this way....there will be no way, with our current understanding of physics to sucessfully or even partially exploit that.

**Shogun** · 02-24-11, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by fedr808

Not exactly.

Genesis is better for one single reason, it wasn't meant to destroy but to create.

You can aruge the same as for the Star Forge....depends on prespective

**Shogun** · 02-24-11, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by fedr808

Quantum crystalline armor? Wtf does that mean? dude, if I take enough diamonds and put them on a vest then that would qualify as quantum crystaline armor. Hell, take a shirt, cover it in glue and then cover that in smashed up graphite from a mechanical pencil. Now you have quantum crystalline armor.

Note that term though.....the thing doesn't make sense anyways, crystals of leptons and hadrons? WTF

**Shogun** · 02-24-11, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by siphra

Sorry, but earth armor from the middleages would not allow you to die from a rock to the head unless it was thrown by a catapult or other seige engine. They could actually hold off weapons to the head and keep the person alive, it's actually kind of the point of armor.

Really depends on a lot of factors though....

Different technology groups != more or less advanced. Lets put it this way, most people own a car, but not a plane. The plane is a lot faster, but most planes are not more advanced than most cars. (Not counting military crap here, or commercial, I am thinking single engine, private planes think Cessna.) Just because its faster, doesn't mean its more advanced.

They have their own individual usages.

**George1** · 02-24-11, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Shogun

Note that term though.....the thing doesn't make sense anyways, crystals of leptons and hadrons? WTF

the material from which its made is unknown. and "crystalline" doesn't refer necessary to a literal crystal. crystalline can be used to describe the complex structure of the armor. due they could have made a better name. it is however also called simply quantum armor.