View Poll Results: Which universe would win?

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  • Star Trek

    227 33.88%
  • Star Wars

    285 42.54%
  • Spaceballs

    51 7.61%
  • Farscape

    14 2.09%
  • Dune

    54 8.06%
  • Stargate

    39 5.82%

Thread: Star Wars vs Star Trek

  1. #21121
    Well, many have speculated that it works like the Alcubierre Drive, and I think the person who originally proposed the concept may have been inspired by musings on the Trek warp drive, but there are things the warp drive does and does not do that make the Alcubierre Drive an unlikely candidate for explaining how warp drive works.

  2. #21122
    Bleed White and Blue! Shogun's Avatar
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    I don't know much about Trek so I can't really say.

  3. #21123
    Penguinaciously duckalicious. Dywyddyr's Avatar
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    Originally (at least) Trek's warp drive was actually in real space as a real velocity.
    The pilot episode (later chopped about and shown as The Cage IIRC) used the words "time warp factor [whatever]". The drive "reversed the ship in time while it accelerated in space" so as to negate time dilation effects.

    I forget exactly where I saw this explanation, it may have been in Mr. SCott's Guide to the Enterprise but I'm no longer sure where my copy is...

    And IIRC the Alcubierre Drive does posit a "space-time" bubble around the ship, isolating it from the rest of the universe (and that pesky gravity gradient fore and aft), that was listed as one of the (several) problems with operating/ building it. Once inside that bubble the ship would have no idea where it was going

  4. #21124
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    I'm talking the Saucer Section as it was in ST: Generations, as it plummeted towards earth.

    Ricerery and his cronies on SpaceBattles are trying to say it was "more aerodynamic" than a space marine that fell from a ship, and are claiming that the Space Marine underwent higher stresses than said saucer section upon impact... UGH what morons...
    Hey Kitt...
    Just checking in....

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    Purveyor of Truth and Fact Kittamaru's Avatar
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    Sup saquist?

  6. #21126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post

    And IIRC the Alcubierre Drive does posit a "space-time" bubble around the ship, isolating it from the rest of the universe (and that pesky gravity gradient fore and aft), that was listed as one of the (several) problems with operating/ building it. Once inside that bubble the ship would have no idea where it was going
    From my memory, the Alcubierre didn't have a bubble. I might have missed it or remembered wrong.

  7. #21127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun View Post
    From my memory, the Alcubierre didn't have a bubble. I might have missed it or remembered wrong.
    The ship would ride this wave inside a region known as a warp bubble of flat space.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
    In fact the graphic usually shown to illustrate the drive shows a "bubble" (meh, okay "circle" on the graphic ) i.e. space-time is flat directly surrounding the ship, as flat as it is outside the gravitational distortions.

  8. #21128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
    In fact the graphic usually shown to illustrate the drive shows a "bubble" (meh, okay "circle" on the graphic ) i.e. space-time is flat directly surrounding the ship, as flat as it is outside the gravitational distortions.
    Ah okay, I was mistaken my bad.

  9. #21129
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    Sup saquist?
    Just checking in on the old stompin ground.

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    Purveyor of Truth and Fact Kittamaru's Avatar
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    ah, hehe. It's been quiet.

  11. #21131
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    ah, hehe. It's been quiet.
    Yeah, and the thread is the longest I've ever seen it.

  12. #21132
    Purveyor of Truth and Fact Kittamaru's Avatar
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    I just posted this on space battles:

    The Borg vs Anything of your choosing... however, the Borg get an upgrade:

    They assimilate the X-Gene from X-Men, and now every Drone has a mutation (random mutations all stem from the same X-Gene) ranging from Class 2 to Class 4, with the Borg Queen as the only Class 5 mutant.

    Who/what can withstand them now?

  13. #21133
    ........


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    There's a reason why Planet X is considered a scourge of the Star Trek novel franchise...

  14. #21134
    Purveyor of Truth and Fact Kittamaru's Avatar
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    Lawl, I try hard to forget that...

  15. #21135
    Apparently not hard enough.... } ; = 8 P

  16. #21136
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilithi_Dragon View Post
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    There's a reason why Planet X is considered a scourge of the Star Trek novel franchise...
    Let me guess, the authors don't understand physics like the writers for the show?

  17. #21137
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricrery View Post
    Let me guess, the authors don't understand physics like the writers for the show?
    No, because they wrote it like a shitty Star Wars novel.

    No really though, it was just a bad book. Horrible fanfic crossover that somehow, for some reason, got published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    I just posted this on space battles:

    The Borg vs Anything of your choosing... however, the Borg get an upgrade:

    They assimilate the X-Gene from X-Men, and now every Drone has a mutation (random mutations all stem from the same X-Gene) ranging from Class 2 to Class 4, with the Borg Queen as the only Class 5 mutant.

    Who/what can withstand them now?
    Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann time again........

  19. #21139
    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun View Post
    Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann time again........
    Wrong. Xeelee could, though. They could kick almost any anime ass.

  20. #21140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittamaru View Post
    I just posted this on space battles:

    The Borg vs Anything of your choosing... however, the Borg get an upgrade:

    They assimilate the X-Gene from X-Men, and now every Drone has a mutation (random mutations all stem from the same X-Gene) ranging from Class 2 to Class 4, with the Borg Queen as the only Class 5 mutant.

    Who/what can withstand them now?
    Umm, how about the actual X-Men?

    Gene Grey vs the entire collective. Game over man.

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