07-04-10, 09:40 PM #20921
Here is a picture of of the fleet that was destroyed by the Macross Cannon. The Zentradi Main Fleet, I feel sorry for them....
07-04-10, 09:40 PM #20922
Variable Fighters go first, fire reaction warheads.....
You overestimate it.
See, they jump in to help their buddies, then all of a sudden, the Dimension Eater fires and they go bye bye.
07-04-10, 09:44 PM #20923
That's if they can hit the Hypervelocity gun, let alone if they can find it.
But don't you realize just how many ships the Empire has to waste?
07-04-10, 09:48 PM #20924
Here is another of the fleet, it scrolls up, so I had to take two. I got it from Macross Frontier.
07-04-10, 09:55 PM #20925
Here is another tricky thing about the Macross Cannon. It had to be only fired once in the entire series as far as I can remember, so the rate of fire is unknown. Basically every time it was fired, it is game over.
07-04-10, 10:02 PM #20926
Simple, they get drones ( Mobile Dolls ) as decoys, when it fires, they calculate its position, then spam it with reaction missiles.
Yeah I do actually, but do you realize how fast Macross and Gundam can waste them?
07-04-10, 10:08 PM #20927
They wouldn't use it to fire at Mobile Dolls, Mobile Suite, Fighters. It's an anti-cruiser gun.
07-04-10, 10:11 PM #20928
07-04-10, 10:13 PM #20929
07-04-10, 10:16 PM #20930
This debate will be going a lot better if the technical specifications of ships, VFs .etc of Macross is specified, I watched the every Macross series and every Gundam series.
07-04-10, 10:20 PM #20931
their pilots are better
they have MS and VFs
and they have greater firepower
and the fact that they never run out of missiles
07-04-10, 10:45 PM #20932
TIE aces, Rogue Squadron, Anikan Skywalker, Luke Skywalker.
Many different land vehicles and space vehicles.
That's just to make the fight better. They can run out. And Star Wars does have missile jamming fields on their Interdictor Cruisers.
07-04-10, 10:55 PM #20933
From on screen evidence, they are still no match for the likes of Shinn Asuka, Kira Yamato, Athrun Zala, Alto Saotome, Ozma Lee, Mikhil Blanc, Lockon Stratos, Marie Parfacy, Allelujah Haptism, Yzak Jouel, Dearka Elsemen, Heero Yuy.....................
That are slower, less maneuverable, weaker and less versatile then MS and VF.
Prove that they can with on screen evidence. I don't know about Wing, but I know in SEED/Destiny and Macross they don't run out of missiles ( at least they can rearm crazy fast and makes a lot more missiles then they can possibly ever use ). Wow missile jamming fields....that just means they aren't guided, but they can still function as torpedoes that will take out the Interdictors first......still Macross Cannons....Positron Cannons.....and many other weapons.
07-04-10, 11:02 PM #20934
How are they not?
Slower maybe, less maneuverable maybe, but SW vehicles can mop the floor with Mobile Suits when it comes to firepower.
You said that Macross specs are rare at best to find. So how do you support this?
You even told me they can run out of missiles. However rare it may be, the fact is they still can.
07-04-10, 11:11 PM #20935
07-04-10, 11:15 PM #20936
All of which Anikan has.
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07-04-10, 11:19 PM #20937
ZAFT Red-coats are the top graduates from their Academy class ( I am still wondering why Dearka Elsemen is a green coat in SEED Destiny, even though he is a ZAFT ace and was a red-coat in SEED, and I don't get why they took away Yzak and Dearka's Gundams.... )
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07-04-10, 11:38 PM #20938
I just dug up something...
After 2012, the Zentradi are estimated to have 1000-2000 fleets of sizes similar to the 4.8-million-ship Boddole Zer Main Fleet in Space War I. However, the UN government of allied Humans and Zentradi became the reigning hegemony in near-Earth galactic space.
07-05-10, 04:14 PM #20939
He is not so good of a pilot as seen on screen. His reaction time is slower, his skills are inferior, and he doesn't have that good accuracy. I estimate him to be about the level of the average ZAFT red-coat. He will most definitely NOT make SMS or FAITH.
07-05-10, 04:29 PM #20940
What are you talking about? He brought down a Trade Federation cruiser at age 7. That's alot younger than the Gundam pilots, or even the average military soldier in Gundam. I'm not sure about Macross though. he also took down three Banking Clan Stations by himself, landed a wrecked CIS Cruiser that had lost it's stablilizers, weaved in between a Venator-Class Destroyer and a CIS Cruiser barraging eachother without taking a scratch, evades missiles like they are nothing, I mean come on. That's an impressive list. And that's just things from the movies.
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