Star Wars vs Star Trek

**~~ricrery~~** · 03-19-10, 07:26 PM

Besides, why vote Star Trek when Doctor Who is clearly stronger than Star Wars AND Star Trek? They'd fuck up Star Trek with cameo aliens alone.

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-19-10, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Excalibur?

Excallibur, the ship, from the series "Crusade"

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-19-10, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by ricrery

Besides, why vote Star Trek when Doctor Who is clearly stronger than Star Wars AND Star Trek? They'd fuck up Star Trek with cameo aliens alone.

We did. Besides, what nut job voted for Spaceballs?!?!?

**~~ricrery~~** · 03-19-10, 08:04 PM

What nutjobs would vote Star Trek? Considering Doctor Who MASSACRES Star Trek, fact.

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 08:49 PM

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann 天元突破グレンラガン will dominate all, vote for the others section!!

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-19-10, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by ricrery

What nutjobs would vote Star Trek? Considering Doctor Who MASSACRES Star Trek, fact.

hey, here's an idea: go join Hitler, or better yet, go to Gengis Khan. I'm sure he'd like you very much. He'll probably pat you on the head, and dress you up and give you a nice burka.

**~~ricrery~~** · 03-19-10, 09:00 PM

Really? Because Star Trek can't take on Doctor Who? Fanboy Trektards are fanboys after all.

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 09:01 PM

Lol, perhaps Stalin as well? Or maybe he can go to the vikings and go berserk?

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 09:03 PM

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann 天元突破グレンラガン will own because you know you won when you have a mech the size of a damn galaxy or larger ( I heard they have mechs the size of universes ).

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-19-10, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Shogun

Lol, perhaps Stalin as well? Or maybe he can go to the vikings and go berserk?

now there's a nice comedic idea for a film

**Apocalypse2001** · 03-19-10, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Shogun

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann 天元突破グレンラガン will own because you know you won when you have a mech the size of a damn galaxy or larger ( I heard they have mechs the size of universes ).

yeah and I'm the queen of england. Ain't gonna happen.

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypse2001

now there's a nice comedic idea for a film

Lol, agreed

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Apocalypse2001

yeah and I'm the queen of england. Ain't gonna happen.

I am 100% positive they have mechs the size of galaxies, I will try to find a pic to prove it. I am planning on watching it.

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 09:18 PM

This image was from the movie. Look up Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, you will now what I mean. I think the mechs are also piloted by 1 person and appears out of thin air, I am not sure, I never watched it really, I only know of it.

Bring it on!!!

**ProphetofWisdom** · 03-19-10, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Renrue

My vote goes to the Foundation Federation from the Foundation Series (Foundation Trilogy + Sequels & Prequels).

All hail the true Galactic Empire! Let us conquer the false Empire of the Star Wars galaxy!

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

I think I can safely say:

Gene R.'s Andromeda would wtfpwn pretty much anything here... I mean, one, it's huge. Two, it's got more firepower than the average galactic empire. Three, it's just... one hella sexy ship...

One Irken Delivery Truck could wipe the floor with nearly everything they have!

Originally Posted by ricrery

Like how Daleks aren't phased by psychics and can ignore attacks completely? Daleks could always EX-TER-MIN-ATE him from the inside-out.

No, when hit by Deadly Waves of Stupidness (TM) Zim just became a complete idiot dumber then anything else but GIR until his PAK reloaded his mind. Unless the Daleks have something like a PAK... they start singing the Doom Song if lucky.

Wrong, the lower end doesn't prove anything.

There is for the time being a known limit to the multi-verse so it can be conquered. *Points at competent Irkens in the Irkens in 40K thread at SB where it was pointed out competent Irkens could conquer it in a matter of years*

Just like Culture can conquer the Irkens if they weren't limited by their universe?

How are they limited by their own universe against the Irkens?

They were using human slaves to build those ships, and

That does not matter, what sort of industry they were using is what matters. What did they build with? How large overall were these ships?

Zim simply can't do this like a NORMAL Time Lord,

*Points at Tak and her plan to fell the Earth with snacks to please the Tallest*

next the Toclafane kill the President in one shot.

The vidoes won't play for me right now for some reason, so what was the effect of the weapon on him? Did he explode? Was he vaporized?

Okay, they can calculate 100 billion calculations in one second flat, stated by the Doctor, next, a few Daleks created the "Apocalypse Element" while trying to conquer Gallifrey, which contained the strongest empire in the universe.

*Takes notes* Going to have to bring in at least a competent GIR then to match that.

Well, one Dalek flew into the solar system at super speeds and collided with the impact to destroy the rain forest, and even survived for 3 days until being rescued and tortured for 50 years by humans. He still had the power to calculate 100 billion calculations and drain the power of the entire west coast and know every single thing about the Internet. WIN WIN.

So what else do we know about it and the rainforest it hit that could let us calc this event? At least for the time being it seems armored Dalek (correct me if wrong on the armored part) and unarmored Irkens are about the same in durability.

Daleks also conquer planets alone, and they create galaxy busters in small groups. They also wage war with themselves in other universes. They beat empires that have weapons that erase things from time and space, as well as destroy concepts, as well as has having some in their possession. Irken are fucked if one shot touches them.

I completely agree that the Irkens will lose to nearly all of this, but I still give them a fair chance to just swarm the enemy if time travel isn't brought in.

Originally Posted by Apocalypse2001

ok enough of the Gundam and manga stuff this is Star Trek and Star Wars. And enough with the rediculous power outputs that only exist in your mind. and no more doctor who!!! (even though i kinda liked it once upon a time :P )

So you are saying here the despite the fact it happen on screen in the show that Zim's Voot Cruiser did not cut through a mini-Dyson Sphere with a low end of 600GT/s or that The Massive did not survive flying through a large asteroid and then a planet and through one side of a star out the other and the only thing that took any damage during that time was the paint which took barely any damage?

Also ye old poll does not agree with this being ST vs SW alone!

Originally Posted by Shogun

The Irken Empire will dominate all, vote for the others section!!

Fixed and now fully approved by the multi-verse spanning competent Irken Empire.

**Shogun** · 03-19-10, 09:24 PM

If they have mechs the size of universes, then obviously they are muti-versa.

**Kittamaru** · 03-19-10, 09:34 PM

Reading up on Invader Zim... the Irken's technology doesn't seem all that impressive... I don't know why you're so obsessed with it 0o'

**~~ricrery~~** · 03-19-10, 09:46 PM

What about Doctor Who tech?

**Kittamaru** · 03-19-10, 10:28 PM

Dr Who Tech doesn't seem to bad... however:

Dalek Weapons (especially the Gunstick) seem rather easy to turn against them. Especially considering they can be redirected by reflective items

Psychic attacks are hard to judge - against the average human, most likely devestating. Against a Vulcan or Betazoid, dibilitating. Against, say, a Traveler, probably irritating at best. Against Androids, who knows how it'd effect em!

However some, like the Armageddon Sapphire, are just... over the effing top... I mean, wtf... who builds a weapon able to TEAR THE UNIVERSE APART! lol... ouch...