Star Wars vs Star Trek

**Lord Vasago** · 04-16-09, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Oli

Liberator!

the USS Kickyourbutt

**Oli** · 04-16-09, 06:28 PM

I always expected it to turn out to be the name ship for a class, especially the later versions.

**Kittamaru** · 04-16-09, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Vasago

i wonder why there isn't a Enterprise-class in startrek though. as the show revolves around this ship it would be rather cool don't ya think.

you got a Galaxy -, Soverign -, and Defiant-class. would sound cool though a Enterprise class

If I'm not mistaken, there is actually an Enterprise class... let me check

EDIT

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Enterprise_class

Apparently "enterprise class" is the starship simulator

And Oli- Scott is very, very good at "missing the point"

**TW Scott** · 04-16-09, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Oli

A very little known award.
How famous is the island of Malta in the US?
It should be massively well known by your logic - it won the VC.

The list you gave claiming "popular" may be "most used" or something close to it, but it's not a well-known, or celebrated/ popular name for a warship here.

Oli for claiming you area military bugff you are by far showing complete ignorance.

And I actually know of Malta. so stick that in your pipe and choke on it.

**Oli** · 04-16-09, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by TW Scott

Oli for claiming you area military bugff you are by far showing complete ignorance.

Wrong.
I gave the facts, you made a stupid assumption.

And I actually know of Malta. so stick that in your pipe and choke on it.

I didn't say "you" I said "in the US".
You don't count.

**TW Scott** · 04-17-09, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Oli

I didn't say "you" I said "in the US".
You don't count.

I'm in the US I count.

**Kittamaru** · 04-17-09, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by TW Scott

I'm in the US I count.

Bully for you... one out of 303,824,640 knows of it...

**Oli** · 04-17-09, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by TW Scott

I'm in the US I count.

Missing the point again?
You don't count since you were aware of the question for a period of time and you're sat in front of a PC...
Now I'm NOT saying you googled it: but the fact that you could have done eliminates you from the "survey".
It shouldn't be too hard to understand...

**fedr808** · 04-17-09, 08:04 AM

You guys are trying to cross history with science fiction, choose one or the other.

**Kittamaru** · 04-17-09, 08:11 AM

Fedr... what do you think creates science fiction?

**fedr808** · 04-17-09, 08:55 AM

Kitt, the last three pages have been about something other than this debate is all im saying.

**Oli** · 04-17-09, 09:05 AM

Sorry.

**Kittamaru** · 04-17-09, 09:19 AM

Ah, aighty

Thing is, I grew tired of Scotch nay-saying everything... and you guys can see for yourselves - he won't even admit when he's wrong in the face of overwhelming, cold-hard, real-life facts... so how can ANYONE "trust" him in a debate about a fictional object?

**fedr808** · 04-17-09, 09:25 AM

i still seriously doubt that the federation could stand up to 39,000 ships the smallest being larger than the enterprise the largest being six times that size.

**Kittamaru** · 04-17-09, 09:58 AM

Thing is, size really doesn't matter... look at the Death Star - taken out by a one-man fighter

**fedr808** · 04-17-09, 10:01 AM

don't worry, that was off of a design defect same thing with the DS 2, 40k battleships don't have such idiotic passeges straight to the core of the ship. Seriously what kind of dumbass says "hey maybe we should make this tunnel straight to the core of the moon sized battlestation"

**Kittamaru** · 04-17-09, 05:27 PM

Oh, no doubt it was a stupid design... but even WH40K ships have weaknesses that can be exploited - the fact that 1/3 of some ships contain JUST engines... it shows how massive and heavy they are. Destroy a decent portion of a WH40K ship's engine power, and it'll be left helpless

**TW Scott** · 04-18-09, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by fedr808

don't worry, that was off of a design defect same thing with the DS 2, 40k battleships don't have such idiotic passeges straight to the core of the ship. Seriously what kind of dumbass says "hey maybe we should make this tunnel straight to the core of the moon sized battlestation"

Well in the DS2 defense it was only half finished and likely those tunnels were used by construction craft to reach the core. Later of course they would be sealed up.

As for the DS1 thing it was not a straight shot to the core, but rather a secondary thermal port led to a reactor which when detonatesd would set off his series of chains events that would knockout the main hypermatter reactor. The design error was fixed and the later DS2 would not have had it, and if the Emperor had not been a cocky a$$ the DS2 would have been complete in 6 more months, completely undiscovered and been nigh invincble.

**TW Scott** · 04-18-09, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Oli

Missing the point again?
You don't count since you were aware of the question for a period of time and you're sat in front of a PC...
Now I'm NOT saying you googled it: but the fact that you could have done eliminates you from the "survey".
It shouldn't be too hard to understand...

Actually, no I did not have to google Malta. I just happened to know it. Like I happen to know that to rebuild the missouri they litterally used sections of the beach as molds for hull plates. I read that in a book.

**TW Scott** · 04-18-09, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

Oh, no doubt it was a stupid design... but even WH40K ships have weaknesses that can be exploited - the fact that 1/3 of some ships contain JUST engines... it shows how massive and heavy they are. Destroy a decent portion of a WH40K ship's engine power, and it'll be left helpless

Meanwhile hide in a magnetic pole and no federation ship in the universe can find you. untill you do something stupid like use a tractor beam.