Australian SHEEPLE vote in a new Shepherd

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Brian Foley, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Kevin Rudd is a committed Freemarketeer , Rudd addresses business dinners, the message is that Labor will deliver for the big end of town , yet gullible Australians really believe he will deliver for us all. As for Rudd pulling Australia out of Iraq when Rudd met up with Cheney to profess his undying devotion to the US alliance he backtracked watering down his commitment as Rudd can't insult mass murderers - sorry, our great and powerful friends. For the past 30 years Australians have been gullible participants in an elaborate charade to give the nation the veneer of a working democracy . Every election/Con job they affirm the 2 party dictatorship in one sided elections where the results alternate between Liberal and Labor governments carrying out the same agenda to shore up the profits of the rich. Australians for their gullible stupidity deserve everything they get .

    It is compulsory to vote in Australia , not voting entails a fine , I didnt vote , because I refuse to make a fool out of myself , when I explained to the authorities why I didnt vote at the last election I still had to pay the fine , Ill do it again this year .
     
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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Everything that happens in the world is bad for you, ain't it, Brian? That must be a terrible existence you have.

    Are you happy about anything that happens in the world? If so, why don't you post some of those things sometimes ....instead of the constant downers that you post?

    Baron Max
     
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  5. Gustav Banned Banned

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    this is outrageous!
    jamesr, explain yourself!! forthwith!
     
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  7. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    As long as 90% of worlds population lives in poverty things aint good in this World .
    No I cant say that I am happy about this World .
    Id rather post informative downers as on this thread , hopefully others will agree and we can overthrow this oppressive economic system and replace it with socialism .
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    So you have voluntarily denied yourself the one voice given to you in the political system of Australia? You had the right to say and you forfeited that right by not voting.

    More's the fool who silences his one sole voice and then bitches about the votes of others. You now deserve everything you get.
     
  9. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    The right to vote in a sham election , you just have to visit the Australian Electoral Commision site to see evidence of this sham where we have the "House of Representatives National Two Party Preferred Result" , LOL . Tell me with the 7.64% of the vote that the Greens received how many seats are they allocated ?
    Oh let me guess you voted for either Labour or Liberals , and as for a say , no thanks I gave up beating my head up against a wall years ago .
    The best slaves are the ones who think they are free , enjoy the charade .
     
  10. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Jeez Brian, it's a charade, but at least now Kyoto will be signed and that alone is a atep in the right direction.

    I drank Margaritas and howled at the glorious full moon last night.
    One happy dingo I was.
     
  11. desi Valued Senior Member

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    Brian, the man has been in office for a day or so and you already think the sky is falling? Wait awhile and see what happens before fussing about it.
     
  12. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Signing Kyoto wont mean much Spud when Australia's vast arid wasteland outback will be used for storing Nuclear waste from the US :
    That was the Liberal party and this policy will be carried on under Labour . Thats one of the prices we must pay for the "Freetrade Deal" with America .
    I am more concerned about his commitment to freemarket capitalism , that invariably means creating a welfare state for the rich 5% . I dont want to wait a while I know what is coming up , New Zealand went through that deregulation phase it wasnt pretty .
     
  13. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Wow, you are spreading the joy today aren't you?

    The Outback, a wasteland! You've never seen it.
     
  14. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I have , believe me when you tour mountainous countries like New Zealand you see why . I recommend a trip across Americas landscape the interior of America consists of Mountains , plains , vast rivers , Savannah , deserts etc real varied . Compare the desert of Arizona with our flat mulga stretches with no rivers nor streams . I hate to say it , but I am honest , the further into the outback you go the worse it gets , explains why no one lives out there.
     
  15. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    We're getting off the thread here Brian but I travelled across the outback of Western australia from the south coast to the north coast. For me, words can't describe the beauty, ruggedness and ancient timelessness I found. I'm sure the other places you have been are brilliant too but calling it a wasteland, man you missed something big.
    My god, the Pilbara, the Kimberley, the Murchison, outrageously beautiful.
     
  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Brian, if you're mad that Australia isn't fielding any Nazi candidates, why don't you just put yourself up next time round then?
     
  17. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    I'm rather pleased that Labour won. It should be interesting to see whether there will be any change regarding the unions and workers rights.
     
  18. Bells Staff Member

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    How many Greens candidates were there? And since when were seats allocated by party lines in Australia? They polled well in Tasmania (where they are strongly supported by the public) and the ACT I believe. If you cared so much about their seats, you should have voted for them Brian.

    Why do you care who I voted for? Is it really any of your business Brian? Just because you threw your vote away by not voting and then having to pay the fines to line the pockets of the AEC, don't think that the majority also threw their votes away.

    What charade Brian? People chose the Government of their choice. You decided to throw away that choice.

    Oh good grief.

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    Can you scream scare mongering any louder? Or is this another conspiracy Brian? Hey I know, you could have just placed yourself as an independent to make sure your vote and voice of discontent at the upcoming nuclear wasteland was heard Brian. But no. Instead you prefer to stay home, not vote and wallow in your misery and conspiracy theories. Hope the fine was worth it Brian.

    That is something we shall have to wait and see Brian.

    This is Labor we are talking about, isn't it? Seriously Brian, your screams of doom and gloom are a bit pointless, considering they have barely been in power for 24 hours and have not even been sworn in yet. Why don't you wait and see what they will do? Hmmmm?

    We're in a drought Brian. And central Australia has always been arid and flat. Comparing Australia to New Zealand is like comparing a grape to a mango.


    Lets hope so. But seeing that Labor does not have a Senate majority, it will be interesting indeed.
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    Just another dreamer. Go sleep sleep on a sewer grate or live in a cardboard box and then you will be truly free. No one will care about you but you will be free...free to get drunk, piss your pants, free to die - no one knowing no one caring. Free.
     
  20. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Brian is a cool guy, but the glass is always half empty with that fellow!
     
  21. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    As much as I'm not happy about the alliance, It's still a step forward, besides we're still better off in terms of health and education, than say, The Americans.
    You could have voted for the democrats, They wanted to stop the alliance too, but too often , they don't do anything. so either way, you win. Or as Bells has said, The greens. No reason to incur a fine. Or better yet, screw up your vote, so it's an informal vote. that way you avoid the fine.

    Jeez Brian, You're starting to even scare me.
     
  22. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    That’s the election/con job exposed right in front of you , and you cannot see it ! 8% of Australia voted for the Greens and the Greens aren’t allocated any seats , that means almost 1 million Australians have no say in government they have been divested of their democratic right to a say in the administration of their nation .
    Why does it concern you I didn’t vote , and if you voted either Liberal or Labour then you are unwittingly aiding and abetting the suppression of democacy.
    There was no vote to throw away Australia’s electoral system is designed to retain a preferred 2 party system where third party representation is nullified .
    That’s the charade people actually believe they are making changes and having a say , when in fact Australia is a plutocracy and it is these entities concerns that policy is designed for .
    That’s the cost of this “Freetrade Deal” , what good is signing Kyoto when on the other hand Australia will become a vast dump ground for extremely toxic waste that will always pose a massive danger to our fragile environment . And Rudd has affirmed this , so what are you prepared to do ?
    Have forgotten what freemarket policies Labourite Bob Hawke introduced in 1983 ? Like handing 80% of our media over to the Murdoch cartel .Rudd has clearly announced he is commited to introducing a freemarket platform and obviously you have not read any of his remarks made to corporate leaders demonstrates that you are indicative of most citizens ignorance in this country .
    Why wait I already know from history that the Liberals carried on the same policies under Hawkes Labour and Labour under Rudd will carry on with the same policies , same shit different arseholes .
    Great Barrier Reef , Blue Mountains and Shark Bay all else is a flat dusty wasteland where Kangaroos don’t go .
    And the policies Rudd introduces I and others will probably end up living in the streets .
    Thanks Daniel .
    And when Rudd furthers the privatisation of Heath and education in this country we will be taking one giant leap backwards to 1788 .
    There is nothing to vote for as long as the electoral system is designed to extinguish smaller & third party aspirations , we have a system that is designed for the retention of 2 parties that are pro business . We have no say in the administration of Australia as our system of government is simply a manipulative tool of wealthy Industrial corporations and Banks .
    It is simply a case of the abyss staring back into you .
     
  23. Bells Staff Member

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    Brian, just because they got 8% of the votes, does not mean they actually won the seats they were vying for. The 8% is based on the over all votes they received across the board. If they failed to win their own individual seats, it is not for the AEC to then take the seats from some victors and allocate said seats to the Greens. The Greens who did not win their individual seats then gave their preferences to one of the other parties or independents in their own electorate.

    No sweets. I don't particularly care if you voted or not. I was merely pointing out your own hypocrisy.

    You may assume I was aiding in the suppression of democracy in voting, fair enough. At least I am not about to be fined, nor will I actually be giving money to the 'oppressors'. You are militant Brian... fight for the cause Brian.. then pay them (the oppressors) to allow them to oppress you more. Fight the power dude.

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    On this, I agree with you. But hey, at least we get a say Brian. Not everyone has that privilege. And if the greater majority wanted to, they could vote for another party and relegate either of the major two to oblivion. Two party preferred systems do not exist solely in Australia, but appears to be a mainstay in all "democratic" countries.

    Glow green. At least I won't have to put up Christmas lights on the tree next year. We'll all be glowin'.

    Ermmm I doubt Murdoch would agree with you Brian. There had always been restrictions to media ownership in this country.. had being the operative word of course.

    I don't have an issue with freemarket. I do have an issue with flooding this country with cheap imports to the detriment of local producers. It's early days yet, lets wait and see what he actually does do.

    Hence the joys and love of politics Brian.

    Now you are just exaggerating Brian. Blowing everything out of proportion.

    You'd have more money in your wallet if you did not break the electoral laws and have to keep paying fines all the time.

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    I doubt he will do that Brian.
     

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