The safety of Cell Towers

**Klippymitch** · 11-04-07, 12:15 AM

What are your opinion on cell towers. From what I know there are no up to date research on the safety of cell towers and you can make a mental comparison on the number of depressed patients each year and the number of cell towers that are built.
It seems every year more and more cell towers are built each year and each year there are more and more depressed patients. I believe there is a direct correlation between the two.

More interesting facts.

Cell towers mess with bird migration and kill thousand of birds each year.

Cell towers are believed to mess with the honey bee natural radar causing bees to lose a sense of where they are and fail to find their way back to their hive and eventually starve to death.

**hypewaders** · 11-04-07, 12:25 AM

I get tired of avoiding them. They're popping up everywhere, and sometimes very hard to see. I recently delivered an old biplane halfway across the USA, and it was particularly tiring at low level because the engine blocks much of the forward view, forcing a lot of zagging, zigging, wigging, and wagging to avoid the damn things. At night, the ones with strobes look like aircraft, spoiling my solitude.

Satellite networks were the way to go. All these multiplying towers were a mistake, and in the future they'll be ugly relics.

**Stryder** · 11-04-07, 01:01 AM

Cell towers are allegedly causing ice to melt at the poles and allegedly react with CO₂ emissions to contribute to the overall greenhouse effect. (Of course it's Allegedly, after all no government funded lab, that's funded by the taxation taken from such businesses is going to in any way define them as a threat, after all it would be like attempting to put the genie back in the bottle and at cost.)

**Klippymitch** · 11-04-07, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Stryder

Cell towers are allegedly causing ice to melt at the poles and allegedly react with CO₂ emissions to contribute to the overall greenhouse effect. (Of course it's Allegedly, after all no government funded lab, that's funded by the taxation taken from such businesses is going to in any way define them as a threat, after all it would be like attempting to put the genie back in the bottle and at cost.)

Interesting.

I was thinking this was happening because we have been driving cars and powering power plants for years with no problems what so ever. Then suddenly around sometime in the 90's people started to pay attention and now with cell towers being every where you can really tell a difference.

How else could rising co2 levels not effect climate for x amount of years and then suddenly start showing signs and intensity.

**Klippymitch** · 11-04-07, 01:33 AM

I guarantee you the EMR waves being produce by cell towers is causing water to form a molecular structure with co2 like this.

HOH>OCO<HOH

I bet 1 Co2 molecule can hold and keep up to 2 H20 molecules and have them rotate around itself.

**cosmictraveler** · 11-04-07, 06:05 AM

There are height restrictions for aircraft to fly at and cell towers are no

where near that height. Microwaves are LETHAL to any living thing IF they

are strong enough. Most microwaves dissipate over distances but those

people and animals close by them can suffer permanent damages. Enough

microwaves and they can kill you.

**Baron Max** · 11-04-07, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Klippymitch

What are your opinion on cell towers. From what I know there are no up to date research on the safety of cell towers and you can make a mental comparison on the number of depressed patients each year and the number of cell towers that are built.
It seems every year more and more cell towers are built each year and each year there are more and more depressed patients. I believe there is a direct correlation between the two.

I think that if one thinks about it much, they'll realize that it's the other way around ...the cell towers are built in areas of large, concentrated populations, and in large, concentrated populations is where you find the most depressed poeple.

Originally Posted by Klippymitch

Cell towers mess with bird migration and kill thousand of birds each year.

And lots of people here and elsewhere want to put up those humongous wind turbines ...which are much worse than cell towers and kill thousands of more birds.

Humans suck. Humans in large, concentrated areas suck even more.

Baron Max

**~~phlogistician~~** · 11-04-07, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Klippymitch

More interesting facts.

Cell towers mess with bird migration and kill thousand of birds each year.

That's a fact is it? It sounds more like unsubstantiated sound bites. I just did a quick google on this and the alleged figure varies by 1250%. Btw, the alleged figures are in millions, not thousands! It's by impact, btw, birds flying into them allegedly. Apparently the lights on any man made structure confuse nocturnally migrating birds, there's nothing special about cellphone towers, other than their numbers and locations. But electricity pylons are more prevalent.

Cell towers are believed to mess with the honey bee natural radar causing bees to lose a sense of where they are and fail to find their way back to their hive and eventually starve to death.

Sorry, is that a 'fact' or a a belief?

And since when did bees have radar? You coud use less pseudoscientific terms such as 'homing instinct', and appear less of a woowoo.

**~~draqon~~** · 11-04-07, 09:42 AM

cell towers are definitely a hazard to insects like bees

**Read-Only** · 11-04-07, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by draqon

cell towers are definitely a hazard to insects like bees

What do you base that on? Any proof or just your idea?

**~~draqon~~** · 11-04-07, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Read-Only

What do you base that on? Any proof or just your idea?

that were the term "Colony Collapse Disorder" comes from.

**~~draqon~~** · 11-04-07, 09:55 AM

"Free-flying honeybees are able to detect alternating fields (430µT) at frequencies of 10 and 60 Hz" (1)

**Read-Only** · 11-04-07, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by draqon

that were the term "Colony Collapse Disorder" comes from.

Bull !! That "theory" was fully tested and found to be completely false!

The latest solid evidence seems to strongly blame a specific virus which kills bees and also reduces their ability to fight off other infections. You are WAY behind in keeping up with the news - what I've just told you was discovered several weeks ago.

**~~draqon~~** · 11-04-07, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Read-Only

Bull !! That "theory" was fully tested and found to be completely false!

The latest solid evidence seems to strongly blame a specific virus which kills bees and also reduces their ability to fight off other infections. You are WAY behind in keeping up with the news - what I've just told you was discovered several weeks ago.

one virus? heh? and whats it name?

**Read-Only** · 11-04-07, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by draqon

"Free-flying honeybees are able to detect alternating fields (430µT) at frequencies of 10 and 60 Hz" (1)

So?!?!?! What has that got to do with cellphone towers that operate in the MEGA Hertz band!! That's pretty stupid information with no correlation whatsoever.

**Read-Only** · 11-04-07, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by draqon

one virus? heh? and whats it name?

Drat! Do I have to do ALL the work for you?!?

It's called the Israeli acute paralysis virus (IAPV).

**~~draqon~~** · 11-04-07, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Read-Only

Drat! Do I have to do ALL the work for you?!?

It's called the Israeli acute paralysis virus (IAPV).

thats just a suspect in bee disappearance, not a definite fact.

**Read-Only** · 11-04-07, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by draqon

thats just a suspect in bee disappearance, not a definite fact.

Man!!!

Can you not even read and understand simple words?? I never said it was proven - what I DID say was: "The latest solid evidence seems to strongly blame a specific virus..." Do you really not understand what "seems" means? That's pretty bad!

And it's a whole lot MORE likely than your stupid tower theory which has already been shot down.

**~~draqon~~** · 11-04-07, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Read-Only

Man!!!

Can you not even read and understand simple words?? I never said it was proven - what I DID say was: "The latest solid evidence seems to strongly blame a specific virus..." Do you really not understand what "seems" means? That's pretty bad!

And it's a whole lot MORE likely than your stupid tower theory which has already been shot down.

aside accusations on my persona...

Do you not find it interesting to note how virus fits better as a culprit and scapegoat for deaths of bees, rather than cell towers emitting radiation (behind which many cell phone companies stand) affecting the bees.

**Read-Only** · 11-04-07, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by draqon

aside accusations on my persona...

Do you not find it interesting to note how virus fits better as a culprit and scapegoat for deaths of bees, rather than cell towers emitting radiation (behind which many cell phone companies stand) affecting the bees.

I see NO scapegoating at all. The virus was discovered (and continues to be studied) by people and organizations which have NO connection at all with the cell phone companies/industry. Now you really ARE just talking about a very stupid conspiracy theory!

There's no science in your approach whatsoever - and you actually thought that those towers radiated 10 and 60Hz. Sheesh!!!!