My Work

[Ripley]

But was Reiku consulted about the editing — did he approve anything? I thought Wikipedia's editing pertained to allying with extrinsic sources not proffered by its origins.

[Gustav]

i am too scared to ask what you mean

[Gustav]

who are you, gum?
you an old timer?

[Ripley]

Several times since, 2002 was it? Gosh, it feels like ages ago. Centuries.

[Zakariya04]

Dear Reiku

i hope all is well.

dont get to upset with Nexus and the criticism he has bestowed upon you...

I have not read or seen anything between you and invert nexus so i can not form a judgement on who is right or wrong, however if someone criticises your work then the best thing to do is take it as constructive criticism so you can learn from it, even if said person ahs been quite agro or whatever in the way he has given the criticism..

I know its hard mate espicially when said criticism is written really harshly but just try and take the best from criticism so you can improve...

~~~~~~~
cheers
zak

[Reiku]

No. Now he is a fucking lier, as i never made any second complaint about that. I didn't know the rules so obviously iu asked.

HE HAS INTENTIONALLY DIVERTED YOUR ATTENTIONS from the fact that i had a problem with him getting so damn personal. This has nothing to do with his spamming.

[Zakariya04]

eeeerrrr sorry reiku,

i ahve not seen or been party to any of the events so i was just trying to offer some light to you

[Reiku]

Not you zak... gee wiz... your cool.

I'm talking about Nexus. He is now deliberately lying to save his own inverted ass.

[invert_nexus]

Oh? I'm lying? I got personal? I believe it was you calling me a twat and whatnot. I merely commented on your writing skills. I did mention your penis size once because you act like you have a small one.

Face it, you need to learn to write. Pull your head out of your ass.

[Reiku]

Yes. You are a lier, by diverting my incongruity as a matter of wiki change. Had nothing to do with that, and you so fine well know.

[invert_nexus]

Your incongruity?

The hell are you talking about?

All I said was that your articles stink and need to be spruced up. You threw a stink fit and here we are.

How can I lie? Everything said is open record.

[invert_nexus]

Seeing as how Reiku is communications impaired, I'll do a rush job of restructuring the events so as to be legible. I don't have much time and won't be around much over the next couple of days.

So.
It starts off in the Black Hole article that Reiku wrote. I was bopping along the wiki one day and noticed it and thought, "Ick."
So, I posted this on the discussion page:

Jesus H. Christ!! This is a horrible mess. No one will ever read this wall of words. Reiku, you need to learn how to format the pages a bit if you want to start making pages. I think there are tutorials linked somewhere. The main page maybe? You have read Wikipedia, haven't you? Does this look anything like Wikipedia? Ack. Invert nexus 01:53, 22 October 2007 (EDT)


Also, this sort of thing: "I would like it known to my readers" is discouraged when writing wiki articles. This isn't a place for you to 'publish'. This is an encyclopedia and should be written objectively. I dare you to find a wikipedia article which speaks from the first person. (Note: You have a tendency to get defensive, I'm not attacking you just giving you some honest criticism. This is a fucking mess.) Invert nexus 02:01, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

Nickelodeon and Spuriousmonkey agreed with me apparently and jazzed up the page. They left the article's information alone, for the most part, just minor edits (such as the 'my reader' thing) and adding some humor as is their wont. They also, of course, added headings, links, etc. They wikified it. Bing bang boom.

Reiku comes along and goes apeshit because 'his work' has been desecrated:

Damn righti'm gonna get defensive. Bring my work back right now. No if's no but's.Damn righti'm gonna get defensive. Bring my work back right now. No if's no but's.this sounds like that. I thought this place was a little more relaxed than those ancient scrolls we call the primordial wikipedia... >

Making demands that his work be returned to him. I guess he doesn't understand the principles of wiki despite what might be allusions to run-ins at the real wikipedia in the past (pure conjecture, of course, but likely.)

So, Nick, puzzled, reverts the work.

I happen across this again some time later and say, 'fuck that' and change it back. Leaving this on the discussion page:

You're work? Are you unclear on what a wiki is? If you want to publish your work, get a blog. Reverted. Invert nexus 12:11, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

The problem, Reiku, is that your writing is fricking horrible. You can't spell. You can't format the page. You write from the first person. You jumble huge paragraphs together into an unintelligible mass of words. Your article can't just be slightly altered. Any attempt to make it conform to wiki standards would be seen by you as desecrating 'your work'. It's not your work. It's a wiki article. I suggest you follow the tutorials linked to on the main page and then your articles won't have to be altered so severely to be presentable. Again, I'm not attacking you although you will most likely see this as an attack. Frankly, I don't give a fuck. I just happened across this page one day and was embarrassed by it. I've since looked through your other articles and find them equally embarrassing. However, you have one thing going for you, nobody reads this wiki anyway except for a laugh. Invert nexus 12:24, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Then, it moves to my talk page, the contents of which are the opening post but which are hard to read. So, I'll straighten them out somewhat.

Reiku's opening remark:

He is a total waste of spacetime. He has no cinsideration for others, and totally self-indulgant. I don't know why anyone gives this fickle sentient the time of day.

Not very nice. And, not only that, but a complete non-sequitur. He knows nothing about me other than the fact that I don't like his writing. I may not be nice, but at least I'm topical.

So, I reply:

Heh. Another one. Can I help it if I say it like it is? You're a horrible writer, Reiku. Surely this isn't a shock to you. If so, then you should spend some time in serious self-reflection. Not only this, but you need to understand that this is a wiki. Not your personal blog. Invert nexus 22:54, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

The "another one" refers to lixluke who sprawled a lot of "FUCK YOU"s on my discussion page a while back.

Note. I comment on his writing. Personal? Hardly.

To which he replies:

Well, all due respect OH NEXUS, you are a total loser and freak. I cannot stand you. I don't like your attitude, your general comments or even your overall fuckin appearance: In summery, i don't like the cut of your jig. You have hounded me since i ever came here. I wish you would ge and entertain yourself - leave me alone. My writing, is not affected by your insignificant ramblings. Nor will it ever be. My work has been recognized in the past, and to this day with good understanding. So piss off.

More off-topic nonsense. He doesn't like my appearance? Oh? He knows what my appearance is? My 'jig'? I presume that this is a common phrase in his neck of the woods, so I'll refrain from mocking him for it, but it sounds ridiculous to my ears nonetheless.
Anyway. All that he has to go on is that I don't like his writing and yet he goes off on all these quite personal tangents.

So, I respond:

Well, I don't personally give a fuck about you one way or the other. I'm sorry you can't take honest criticism. I suppose you must have a very small penis. Meanwhile, you're misrepresenting the facts to say that I've "hounded you" since you arrived. I hardly interact with you. You are obviously delusional if you feel that I've been doing more than bumping into you upon occasion. As to your writing, please learn to spell at the very least. Learning about how to format your writing in a nearly legible form would also do wonders. I won't even speak as to the cargo cult quality of your scribblings (oops. I just did.) Anyway. Calm down. Your 'work' is still present on that page. It's just been formatted a bit more into how a wiki is supposed to look. Feel lucky that I don't have the motivation to go clean up all your 'articles' as they are all horribly written. I love you. Invert nexus 00:20, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Pretty basic stuff here except the 'cargo cult' thing. It's merely an allusion to the fact that I believe that Reiku doesn't really understand the concepts which he is brandishing. He's read some pop science books and fancies himself a scientist. However, this is off-topic and I only resorted to it as I was a bit annoyed by his rampant blustering. My main concern, as is quite clear, his writing. Specifically his writing on the wiki.
It's god-awful.

So, he comes back with:

My penis size? Is this the best you can do? Not that its any buisiness of yours, but i've never had a problem or an issue in that department. And yes, you have hounded me [on any particular weakness] - nothing to do with criticism. I can take criticism, or i would be on places like this. Instead, when i said i found math difficult, and is NOT my strongest area, and you mocked me. Now this is my turn. Give and take my inverted prick.

Oh. Almost forgot. The comment about his penis size. Merely an allusion to his incredible defensiveness when it comes to people criticizing his 'work'.
Also, I have clearly not hounded the man.
I've only interacted with him in the Antarctica thread where I tried to be polite but he took great offense to being shown wrong in his misconceptions about the nature of Antarctic ice, a thread where he tried writing a 'book' about physics after he's admitted to not being good at math, and then here in this debacle. I don't believe there are any other instances, perhaps I forget, but I doubt it.
That's hardly hounding the man.

So, I respond:

Heh. It's your turn. Ok. Whatever you say, buddy boy. Invert nexus 00:45, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

As I found it funny that he thought he was 'taking a turn' at mocking me or whatever. Heh. I still do.
Anyway, at this point I got tired of the whole situation and figured I'd let it drop.

He came back with:

What's wrong... loosing consistency in your arguement?

Which was more hilarity as there was no 'argument' per se. Just me saying his writing stinks and him running about frantically muttering about my 'jig'.

So:

Are you for real? If so, my god... Delusional, indeed. Invert nexus 01:01, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Because, he has to be. Right?

Next:

Whatever: You are now even more inverted than before.

I think he was claiming victory or something? The man is off his rocker.

So:

Ooooooh. And you, sir, are more Reiku than blah blah blah. Wow, man. You're getting me good. I'm like crying and stuff over here. I give in, man. I'll do anything if you only stop hurling misspelled words at me! Mercy! Invert nexus 01:15, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

I throw in a taunt. My first real act of mockery, as I see it. He's an annoying man.

And:

I'd like to hurl a great deal more at you, than arbitrary misspelled words you missdirected fool.

Here is the phrase: "arbitrary misspelled words."

What the hell?
I decide to try to get through his thick skull and show him how horrible his writing actually is.

With:

I'm sure you would. Now, redirect your attention to your own writings and perhaps you'll actually get somewhere. For instance, what is the purpose of the phrase "arbitrarily misspelled words"? Which use of 'arbitrary' are you aiming at? Please choose from the following list: 1. subject to individual will or judgment without restriction; contingent solely upon one's discretion: an arbitrary decision. 2. decided by a judge or arbiter rather than by a law or statute. 3. having unlimited power; uncontrolled or unrestricted by law; despotic; tyrannical: an arbitrary government. 4. capricious; unreasonable; unsupported: an arbitrary demand for payment. 5. Mathematics. undetermined; not assigned a specific value: an arbitrary constant. –noun 6. arbitraries, Printing. (in Britain) peculiar (def. 9). Invert nexus 01:45, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Pretty basic stuff.

He responds:

Arbitrary, in the sense that the words, being spelled correctly or not, does not delete the general information or goal. So in a sense, it is you who is being generally arbitrary, over such silly nonesense. If people can read my work, and understand my work, then why should a parrot like you change anything?

Oh? Really? Think that's english?

So:

I'm sorry. Which definition was that? It didn't seem to be a definition for the word 'arbitrary'. Do they speak english in what? Invert nexus 01:58, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

None of the above.

So. He's admitted to none of the above. Which, of course, belies his later statement that he meant I was being arbitrary.

So. What you're saying is that you're not speaking english at all? That would explain a lot. Invert nexus 01:10, 28 October 2007 (EST)

I might as well be talking in another language than to waste my invaluable time debating this utter shit with you.

He still just refuses to accept his improper phraseology.
Thick. Fucking thick.

I come back later:

I was a bit rushed for time last night on my last comment. Let's resume, shall we? Upon a re-read of your explanation of your use of the term 'arbitrary' I see that you have latched on to definition #2. That I am being an arbiter of your writing style. Now, this would actually be a good use of the word had you only meant it that way, but we both know that you didn't mean it that way. Don't we? And, even if you did, you used it incorrectly as you applied arbitrary to the misspelled word, not to me. You claimed with your phrase "arbitrary misspelled words" that the misspelled words were somehow arbitrary. Now. A word cannot be arbitrary as it has no will. You will see from the list of definitions above that in all cases except for the mathematical definition the key element is will. Choice. A choice made not through logic. Not through purpose. But, rather, just pointing your finger at a spot and saying 'there'. So. How can a word be arbitrary? It can't. It has no will. However, the word can be arbitrarily (note the 'ly' which means that this is an adverb and thus adjusts the verb 'misspelled') misspelled. However, if this is what you meant, then you would be telling me that you have been purposefully misspelling words, but doing so in a haphazard fashion. Picking words, not quite at random but close, to misspell while spelling others correctly. You would thus be taking the title of 'arbitrary' upon yourself as you are the one who is hurling the 'arbitrarily misspelled words'. If you have another explanation for your phrase, then please. Let's hear it. Personally, I think you just like saying words that you've heard spoken by the intelligentsia despite your not understanding the meaning. Thus, the cargo cult. Invert nexus 16:47, 28 October 2007 (EST)

Once more pressing him to see his unclarity.

No such luck:

As i said, Nexus, i am not going to waste any more of my time on this. Or you.

Actually, i'll take that back. You said: That I am being an arbiter of your writing style. Now, this would actually be a good use of the word had you only meant it that way, but we both know that you didn't mean it that way. Don't we? Actually yes, ofcourse i mean't it in this sense. What other fuckin sense would i mean it in, as it couldn't be anymore obvious than your stinkin attitude :-) Graditude for your time, twat.

Here's the claim that he meant I was being arbitrary.
A show of hands on who believes him? I could be wrong. It's possible.

Me:

Then you used it, as I pointed out quite clearly, incorrectly. I repeat, you don't speakuh the english. A pity you're so damned defensive. Oh well. Your loss. Continue writing like shit. No skin off my nose. Invert nexus 00:12, 29 October 2007 (EST)

This is when he decided to put it to the 'public' on whether he was a shitty writer and offered his continued presence here as a wager. I wager which I did not solicit nor did I accept.

Then in that case, i will present my case on the forum. If my work is found to be shit, then i will cease interacting here, then you will have won your pointless and annoying debate.

In the forums, you can write however you want. It's your 'work' there. Here, it's a wiki. And, me get nasty? Who's calling who names? I simply gave honest criticism and you got offended. Invert nexus 07:32, 29 October 2007 (EST)

Maybe i got offended because i'm not a self-centered prick. A lot of people today don't care what other people think, because they are so up their own asses. You know what, i don't care whether you changed my work or not. Please, go right ahead. But in the future, don't get as personal to say, Your writing is terrible, because those words where choiciest, just to inentionally get unde my skin.

No. I said those words because his writing is terrible.

And here we are.

There are some other comments on the page, apparently. But, that's the gist of it. You are all welcome to go read for yourselves in its unadalterated glory.

I did find one more quote that was funny towards the end:

And you say my standard use of English is wrong. And yet, you cannot keep up on any debate without it reverting back to you. Or Nexus. I've had enough. I think i've milked this for as much as can be attained.

And, yet, that is exactly what I was doing. Debating with one one particular instance of how his writing sucks and yet he claims that it 'reverrts back to you'? Whatever the hell that means. Maybe that is supposed to be how he resorts to ad hominem's almost exclusively.

And, I wonder what he believes he's 'attained'?

Anyone have an idea?

Alright.
I doubt I'll be back here til Friday.
Enjoy, kiddies.

[Reiku]

''Damn righti'm gonna get defensive. Bring my work back right now. No if's no but's.Damn righti'm gonna get defensive. Bring my work back right now. No if's no but's.this sounds like that. I thought this place was a little more relaxed than those ancient scrolls we call the primordial wikipedia... > ''

Can i just say, that he has misunderstood this iota of work.

You see, i was new in there, and it had tagged on it ''Talk:Black Hole''.

Call me stupid, but i thought he had eliminated the entire work...

So i never realized my work was fine. So your arguement is flawed.

I won't even comment on the rest. Too time-consuming.

[Ripley]

Upon the kicking heels of this miserable exchange, we wake up to this:

10/30/07 - 03:37 AM (EDT)
Invert Nexus' thread: Best Day of Your Life:

When's yours?

Mine is today. Well, tomorrow actually.
But it begins now!

10/31/07 - 11:09 PM (EDT)
Reiku's thread: Well... i've woke up...

In a good mood today. What's everyone doing today? What's your schedule?

I don't know what i am doing yet, but i need to go do some shopping. I know that much.

...

Mmm. Peculiar. Both our boys are suddenly having their best day or are in a good mood. And both had to start threads about their wonderful dispositions. Rather a strange anticlimax to this miserable thread. Ha. Another Comedy of Errors.

[Reiku]

hhehehhe... That's mental.

[Ripley]

I wouldn't talk.