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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Heh, why bother? Is anyone here really interested in the widows and Dalits of India? Like the gays in Iran, they just make a good supremacist issue
    Well we dont know nearly as much as YOU do...but of course we would never know because guess it is all just a minor issue to you. It is not supremecist to care about all your people instead of a chosen few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkweed View Post
    I see.

    You HAVENT any answers for the rot within the borders of India.
    The answers? You mean like a magic wand that will make them all go away?

    They don't exist.

    However, we have the third largest economy; an excellent growth rate, poverty faction slowly decreasing by the day, education getting better and better (our undergrad is already better than the West, now we're improving our grad); the largest section of young population in the world.

    Ask me again in 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    The answers? You mean like a magic wand that will make them all go away?

    They don't exist.

    However, we have the third largest economy; an excellent growth rate, poverty faction slowly by the day, education getting better and better (our undergrad is already better than the West, now we're improving our grad); the largest section of young population in the world.

    Ask me again in 20 years.
    But you have to think that U.S business has been the factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John99 View Post
    But you have to think that U.S business has been the factor.
    Sure, but the fact that we kept the economy closed for many years until our local market could compete is also a factor that has paid long term dividends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkweed View Post
    I see.

    You HAVENT any answers for the rot within the borders of India.
    answers? who does?
    bring down that goalpost

    besides
    i wanna frolic on the ashes of india
    mother india that is

    bring on the rot



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    answers? who does?
    bring down that goalpost

    besides
    i wanna frolic on the ashes of india
    mother india that is

    bring on the rot


    May leeches infest your tuberose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Sure, but the fact that we kept the economy closed for many years until our local market could compete is also a factor that has paid long term dividends.
    OR maybe that is because no one wanted to go there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    The answers? You mean like a magic wand that will make them all go away?

    They don't exist.

    However, we have the third largest economy; an excellent growth rate, poverty faction slowly decreasing by the day, education getting better and better (our undergrad is already better than the West, now we're improving our grad); the largest section of young population in the world.

    Ask me again in 20 years.
    Ok. So In 20 years you will have what? What do you imagine for India as its population swells to nearly 2 billion when it cannot feed/care for its own now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkweed View Post
    Ok. So In 20 years you will have what? What do you imagine for India as its population swells to nearly 2 billion when it cannot feed/care for its own now?
    Oh don't worry, you guys will have decently finished each other off to make space for us.

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    S.A.M:
    However, we have the third largest economy
    Which ignores the inequity regarding the distribution of said wealth. And an atrocious record of human rights abuses. Given that you always whine about U.S and Australian human rights abuses, and never praise their booming economies, I'm going to assume that the humanitarian aspects of a nation are your higher priority.

    poverty faction slowly by the day, education getting better and better
    Mistreatment of indigenous tribesmen, systematic brutality by Indian police and armed forces, overt discrimination against lower castes of Hindus, a long-standing history of acts of aggression against neighbouring countries, a stockpile of nuclear weapons, etc etc. I could go on and on. The fact that things may be 'getting better' (slowly) doesn't change the fact that India is in more shit than any Western country.

    What's your excuse, S.A.M? Western interference? Excessive taxation?

    Hey, I mean, it's not like Western countries whose police and soldiers don't currently engage in systematic rape and torture have ever suffered from interference and/or occupation by foreign powers, and excessive taxation, right?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...g_World_War_II

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

    http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/poland.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainhare View Post
    S.A.M:


    And an atrocious record of human rights abuses. Given that you always whine about U.S and Australian human rights abuses, and never praise their booming economies, I'm going to assume that the humanitarian aspects of a nation take higher priority with you.



    Mistreatment of indigenous tribesmen, systematic brutality by Indian police and armed forces, overt discrimination against lower castes of Hindus, a long-standing history of acts of aggression against neighbouring countries, a stockpile of nuclear weapons, etc etc. I could go on and on. The fact that things may be 'getting better' (slowly) doesn't change the fact that India is in more shit than any Western country.

    What's your excuse, S.A.M? Western interference? Excessive taxation?

    Hey, I mean, it's not like Western countries whose police and soldiers don't currently engage in systematic rape and torture have ever suffered from interference and/or occupation by foreign powers, and excessive taxation, right?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...g_World_War_II

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

    http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/poland.htm
    Mostly terrible poverty and illiteracy on independence. A huge population. 200 years of colonisation to get over. And it has improved, but we have a ways to go yet.

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    S.A.M:
    Mostly terrible poverty and illiteracy on independence.
    Poland had the exact same problem after gaining independence! Hell, Poland ceased to exist for 100 years when it was partitioned between Austria, Prussia and Russia. Polish citizens were delegated to the role of 'unskilled, uneducated labourers', and trust me, this didn't change under Nazi or Soviet occupation.

    Poland has been raped by the partitions, then by Nazi rule, then by Soviet rule. Remember that the Soviets are renowned for leaving their formerly occupied territories with a ruined economy. The wonders of Communism.

    But despite all this, I have yet to hear of Poland's police and soldiers engaging in systematic torture and rape in this day and age. I have yet to hear of them making a habit out of throwing faeces at their minorities, either.

    Again, what's your excuse, S.A.M? Why is it that Poland, which ceased to exist at one period in history, and then suffered under two barbaric regimes in recent history, has a cleaner record regarding human rights than India?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainhare View Post
    S.A.M:


    The Polish had the exact same problem after gaining independence! Hell, Poland ceased to exist for 100 years when it was partitioned between Austria, Prussia and Russia. Polish citizens were delegated to the role of 'unskilled, uneducated labourers', and trust me, this didn't change under Nazi or Soviet occupation.

    Poland has been raped by the partitions, then by Nazi rule, then by Soviet rule. Remember that the Soviets are renowned for leaving their formerly occupied territories with a ruined economy. The wonders of Communism.

    But despite all this, I have yet to hear of Poland's police and soldiers engaging in systematic torture and rape in this day and age. I have yet to hear of them throwing faeces at their minorities, either.

    Again, what's your excuse, S.A.M? Why is it that Poland, which ceased to exist at one period in history, and then suffered under two barbaric regimes in recent history, has a cleaner record regarding human rights than India?
    Good for Poland. Unfortunately India is not Poland. It was nice of them to get rid of everyone but the Catholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Good for Poland. Unfortunately India is not Poland.
    No, India isn't Poland .....India is much worse than Poland!!!

    Baron Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Max View Post
    No, India isn't Poland .....India is much worse than Poland!!!

    Baron Max
    Yeah, well I hear all the Poles are leaving Poland, so you might want to move there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Mostly terrible poverty and illiteracy on independence. A huge population. 200 years of colonisation to get over.
    So you're blaming it all on someone else, huh, Sam? Now think about it, isn't that just like all Muslims of the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    And it has improved, but we have a ways to go yet.
    And you'll never get there on your own!! The population growth alone will overwhelm India in only a shor time ..if it's not fully overwhelmed now.

    Baron Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Yeah, well I hear all the Poles are leaving Poland, so you might want to move there.
    I'd move to Poland in a heartbeat over moving to the damned India!!

    Baron Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Max View Post
    So you're blaming it all on someone else, huh, Sam? Now think about it, isn't that just like all Muslims of the world?



    And you'll never get there on your own!! The population growth alone will overwhelm India in only a shor time ..if it's not fully overwhelmed now.

    Baron Max
    There's lots of empty space in the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    There's lots of empty space in the US
    Mexicans are takiing it all now, you Indians are too late.

    Baron Max

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