Indian Atrocities

[John99]

Heh, why bother? Is anyone here really interested in the widows and Dalits of India? Like the gays in Iran, they just make a good supremacist issue

Well we dont know nearly as much as YOU do...but of course we would never know because guess it is all just a minor issue to you. It is not supremecist to care about all your people instead of a chosen few.

[S.A.M.]

I see.

You HAVENT any answers for the rot within the borders of India.

The answers? You mean like a magic wand that will make them all go away?

They don't exist.

However, we have the third largest economy; an excellent growth rate, poverty faction slowly decreasing by the day, education getting better and better (our undergrad is already better than the West, now we're improving our grad); the largest section of young population in the world.

Ask me again in 20 years.

[John99]

The answers? You mean like a magic wand that will make them all go away?

They don't exist.

However, we have the third largest economy; an excellent growth rate, poverty faction slowly by the day, education getting better and better (our undergrad is already better than the West, now we're improving our grad); the largest section of young population in the world.

Ask me again in 20 years.

But you have to think that U.S business has been the factor.

[S.A.M.]

But you have to think that U.S business has been the factor.

Sure, but the fact that we kept the economy closed for many years until our local market could compete is also a factor that has paid long term dividends.

[Gustav]

I see.

You HAVENT any answers for the rot within the borders of India.

answers? who does?
bring down that goalpost

besides
i wanna frolic on the ashes of india
mother india that is

bring on the rot

[S.A.M.]

answers? who does?
bring down that goalpost

besides
i wanna frolic on the ashes of india
mother india that is

bring on the rot

May leeches infest your tuberose.

[John99]

Sure, but the fact that we kept the economy closed for many years until our local market could compete is also a factor that has paid long term dividends.

OR maybe that is because no one wanted to go there?

[milkweed]

The answers? You mean like a magic wand that will make them all go away?

They don't exist.

However, we have the third largest economy; an excellent growth rate, poverty faction slowly decreasing by the day, education getting better and better (our undergrad is already better than the West, now we're improving our grad); the largest section of young population in the world.

Ask me again in 20 years.

Ok. So In 20 years you will have what? What do you imagine for India as its population swells to nearly 2 billion when it cannot feed/care for its own now?

[John99]

Ouch

[S.A.M.]

Ok. So In 20 years you will have what? What do you imagine for India as its population swells to nearly 2 billion when it cannot feed/care for its own now?

Oh don't worry, you guys will have decently finished each other off to make space for us.

[mountainhare]

S.A.M:

However, we have the third largest economy

Which ignores the inequity regarding the distribution of said wealth. And an atrocious record of human rights abuses. Given that you always whine about U.S and Australian human rights abuses, and never praise their booming economies, I'm going to assume that the humanitarian aspects of a nation are your higher priority.

poverty faction slowly by the day, education getting better and better

Mistreatment of indigenous tribesmen, systematic brutality by Indian police and armed forces, overt discrimination against lower castes of Hindus, a long-standing history of acts of aggression against neighbouring countries, a stockpile of nuclear weapons, etc etc. I could go on and on. The fact that things may be 'getting better' (slowly) doesn't change the fact that India is in more shit than any Western country.

What's your excuse, S.A.M? Western interference? Excessive taxation?

Hey, I mean, it's not like Western countries whose police and soldiers don't currently engage in systematic rape and torture have ever suffered from interference and/or occupation by foreign powers, and excessive taxation, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...g_World_War_II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/poland.htm

[S.A.M.]

S.A.M:


And an atrocious record of human rights abuses. Given that you always whine about U.S and Australian human rights abuses, and never praise their booming economies, I'm going to assume that the humanitarian aspects of a nation take higher priority with you.



Mistreatment of indigenous tribesmen, systematic brutality by Indian police and armed forces, overt discrimination against lower castes of Hindus, a long-standing history of acts of aggression against neighbouring countries, a stockpile of nuclear weapons, etc etc. I could go on and on. The fact that things may be 'getting better' (slowly) doesn't change the fact that India is in more shit than any Western country.

What's your excuse, S.A.M? Western interference? Excessive taxation?

Hey, I mean, it's not like Western countries whose police and soldiers don't currently engage in systematic rape and torture have ever suffered from interference and/or occupation by foreign powers, and excessive taxation, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...g_World_War_II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years'_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/poland.htm

Mostly terrible poverty and illiteracy on independence. A huge population. 200 years of colonisation to get over. And it has improved, but we have a ways to go yet.

[mountainhare]

S.A.M:

Mostly terrible poverty and illiteracy on independence.

Poland had the exact same problem after gaining independence! Hell, Poland ceased to exist for 100 years when it was partitioned between Austria, Prussia and Russia. Polish citizens were delegated to the role of 'unskilled, uneducated labourers', and trust me, this didn't change under Nazi or Soviet occupation.

Poland has been raped by the partitions, then by Nazi rule, then by Soviet rule. Remember that the Soviets are renowned for leaving their formerly occupied territories with a ruined economy. The wonders of Communism.

But despite all this, I have yet to hear of Poland's police and soldiers engaging in systematic torture and rape in this day and age. I have yet to hear of them making a habit out of throwing faeces at their minorities, either.

Again, what's your excuse, S.A.M? Why is it that Poland, which ceased to exist at one period in history, and then suffered under two barbaric regimes in recent history, has a cleaner record regarding human rights than India?

[S.A.M.]

S.A.M:


The Polish had the exact same problem after gaining independence! Hell, Poland ceased to exist for 100 years when it was partitioned between Austria, Prussia and Russia. Polish citizens were delegated to the role of 'unskilled, uneducated labourers', and trust me, this didn't change under Nazi or Soviet occupation.

Poland has been raped by the partitions, then by Nazi rule, then by Soviet rule. Remember that the Soviets are renowned for leaving their formerly occupied territories with a ruined economy. The wonders of Communism.

But despite all this, I have yet to hear of Poland's police and soldiers engaging in systematic torture and rape in this day and age. I have yet to hear of them throwing faeces at their minorities, either.

Again, what's your excuse, S.A.M? Why is it that Poland, which ceased to exist at one period in history, and then suffered under two barbaric regimes in recent history, has a cleaner record regarding human rights than India?

Good for Poland. Unfortunately India is not Poland. It was nice of them to get rid of everyone but the Catholics.

[Baron Max]

Good for Poland. Unfortunately India is not Poland.

No, India isn't Poland .....India is much worse than Poland!!!

Baron Max

[S.A.M.]

No, India isn't Poland .....India is much worse than Poland!!!

Baron Max

Yeah, well I hear all the Poles are leaving Poland, so you might want to move there.

[Baron Max]

Mostly terrible poverty and illiteracy on independence. A huge population. 200 years of colonisation to get over.

So you're blaming it all on someone else, huh, Sam? Now think about it, isn't that just like all Muslims of the world?

And it has improved, but we have a ways to go yet.

And you'll never get there on your own!! The population growth alone will overwhelm India in only a shor time ..if it's not fully overwhelmed now.

Baron Max

[Baron Max]

Yeah, well I hear all the Poles are leaving Poland, so you might want to move there.

I'd move to Poland in a heartbeat over moving to the damned India!!

Baron Max

[S.A.M.]

So you're blaming it all on someone else, huh, Sam? Now think about it, isn't that just like all Muslims of the world?



And you'll never get there on your own!! The population growth alone will overwhelm India in only a shor time ..if it's not fully overwhelmed now.

Baron Max

There's lots of empty space in the US

[Baron Max]

There's lots of empty space in the US

Mexicans are takiing it all now, you Indians are too late.

Baron Max