The Big Bang?????????

**Starman** · 10-07-07, 10:46 AM

There was no Big Bang

This is evident for the fact that there is no sound in space.

An atmosphere is required in order to exist sound.

So just as an act of Common Sense, If it walks like a duck don't call it a pig.

In my opinion, a more accurate definition of the hypothesis would be the Big Flash .

Just a thought within reason.

**Nasor** · 10-07-07, 11:08 AM

“Bang” can refer to either a noise or an explosion. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least do it right!

**Starman** · 10-07-07, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Nasor

“Bang” can refer to either a noise or an explosion. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least do it right!

You forgot a few deffintions for the word Bang.

However I fail to see where the word bang is defined as an explosion.

Fundamentalism and Science do not favor each other.

According to Wikipedia the word bang
Is defined.

Fringe (hair), hair that is cut short around the forehead, known as bangs in North America
!BANG!, a professional wrestling promotion
Bang Cartoon, a website that hosts cartoons
Bang path, a specification for routing e-mail via UUCP
BANG file
Bangs, Texas
Bang's disease or Bangs, a bacterial disease
Exclamation mark, in printer and computer jargon
Bang Records, a record label
Bangs (band), an American punk rock band
Bang! (hardcore), the Happy Hardcore group
Bang! (Rutter), an opera by John Rutter
Bang (James Gang album)
Bang! (1985 Frankie Goes to Hollywood album)
Bang!… The Greatest Hits of Frankie Goes to Hollywood
"Bang" (song), a song by Blur
"Bang!" (Yeah Yeah Yeahs song)
"Bang" (Young Jeezy song)
"Bangs", a song by They Might Be Giants
Bang! (World Party album)
Bang (film), a 1995 independent film directed by Ash
"Bang" (Desperate Housewives episode)
"Bang" (The Shield)
In games:
Bang (Korean), an amusement room for computer games, drinking, or other entertainment
Bang!, a Wild West-themed card game
Bang! Howdy, an online strategy game
Bang! (drama game)
Bang! (arcade game), a Wild West shoot 'em up arcade game released by Gaelco in 1998
Lester Bangs, American music journalist
Lance Bangs, American filmmaker
John Kendrick Bangs, 19th-century writer
Outram Bangs (1863–1932), American zoologist
Molly Bang (born 1943) American illustrator
Bang Seong Joon, South Korean voice actor
Bang Young-ung (born 1942), South Korean novelist
Bang Bang (disambiguation page)
Bhang, a cannabis derivative from the Indian subcontinent
Boom

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**~~Reiku~~** · 10-07-07, 11:41 AM

You are incorrect anyway. Sound doesn't need to exist in empty space to cause an equivalant big bang. Besides, i'm not actually sure what you even mean.

**fo3** · 10-07-07, 12:03 PM

According to Merriam-Webster:

Bang:
1 : a resounding blow
2 : a sudden loud noise
3 a : a sudden striking effect b : a quick burst of energy

A quick burst of energy is of most interest in the context, so I would say that the expression is correct.

**cosmictraveler** · 10-07-07, 12:37 PM

According to cosmictraveler a big bang is when I lay a fat chick!!

**~~Reiku~~** · 10-07-07, 07:59 PM

Yeh... and the big crunch is when the baby falls out... eh?

**James R** · 10-07-07, 09:59 PM

The universe was dense enough at the time of the big bang for sound to carry quite adequately.

**~~Reiku~~** · 10-07-07, 10:02 PM

This was what i was thinking, but without enough scientific cred, i never said anything. I was basing this on the dense black holes, which are also supposed to vibrate a small humming noise. :-)

**spidergoat** · 10-07-07, 10:31 PM

There was no light, either.

**~~OilIsMastery~~** · 10-07-07, 11:06 PM

If God wanted it to bang then it damn well banged.

**fo3** · 10-08-07, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by James R

The universe was dense enough at the time of the big bang for sound to carry quite adequately.

Isn't it so that the sound waves traveling through the early dense universe should be responsible for the large-scale structure of the universe, and the variability in the background radiation?

**~~John99~~** · 10-08-07, 02:23 AM

aaahhh, an explosion is the most powerful force humans create, but thinking in human terms is a hindrance. The supreme limitation, now how do we surpass this limitation?

**Repo Man** · 10-08-07, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by OilIsMastery

If God wanted it to bang then it damn well banged.

Thank you for your useful contribution to this thread! Rather than spamming up threads that have nothing to do with it, why not go to the religion forum, and begin your own? That is where religious arguments belong.

**Nasor** · 10-08-07, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Starman

However I fail to see where the word bang is defined as an explosion.

Check the Oxford English Dictionary.

**~~OilIsMastery~~** · 10-08-07, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Repo Man

Thank you for your useful contribution to this thread! Rather than spamming up threads that have nothing to do with it, why not go to the religion forum, and begin your own? That is where religious arguments belong.

If you want to spam this thread with the idea that something came from nothing and the Big Bang had no cause perhaps you would have a better reception in the pseudoscience forum or the cesspool forum. That is where nonsensical arguments belong.

**D H** · 10-08-07, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by James R

The universe was dense enough at the time of the big bang for sound to carry quite adequately.

Even 13.7 billion years after the big bang, the universe remains dense enough for sound (very low frequency sound, that is) to carry quite adequately. See http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...holesounds.htm.

**~~Reiku~~** · 10-08-07, 01:13 PM

Spider... light was the first gas and element in the universe... everything is just trapped light....

**Starman** · 10-08-07, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by D H

Even 13.7 billion years after the big bang, the universe remains dense enough for sound (very low frequency sound, that is) to carry quite adequately. See http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...holesounds.htm.

D H

They could be sound, EM, gravity, waves ect.

Yet what would be the medium? Ok you say gas, how can a medium for sound waves exist in the zero atmosphere vacuum of space?

There is no sound waves in the void of space, plenty of EM waves however no sound waves.

One step further, if there did exist a big bang, would it be safe to say that the universe has no walls, for if it did, would there not exist a big echo?

Just a thought

**D H** · 10-08-07, 02:13 PM

You are misinterpreting vacuum to mean "completely devoid of matter". There is no such thing as a "perfect vacuum" in space. A very, very, very low density gas occupies the space between galaxies. This gas can support sound waves whose wavelengths are considerably longer than the gas' mean free path.

The mean free path was extremely short at the time of the big bang. The infant universe carried sound.

And stop being so pedantic, anyhow. "Big bang" sounds a lot flashier than "big flash".