Trader's honest response to a Golddigger

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  1. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    A Trader's Reply To A Golddigger

    Craigslist Meets WallStreet…Classic
    What a classic answer…..

    THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG’S LIST

    What am I doing wrong?

    Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I’m articulate and classy.
    I’m not from New York . I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.

    Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won’t get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

    Here are my questions specifically:

    - Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

    -What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings

    -Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?

    - Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What’s the story there?

    - Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

    - How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

    Please hold your insults - I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

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    THE ANSWER
    Dear Pers-431649184:

    I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
    Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here’s how I see it.

    Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity…in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!

    So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

    So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold…hence the rub…marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

    Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful”
    as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout.

    By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.

    With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way.
    Classic “pump and dump.”
    I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

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  3. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Brilliant.
     
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  5. Huwy Secular Humanist Registered Senior Member

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    sad thing is she'll probably fool some other guy into marrying her.
     
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  7. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah well some men deserve what they get. You know the ones that just need to have that "hot chick"

    As this guy says........ Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

    I am 37 I should just end it all now:bugeye:
     
  8. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    No Shorty, don't do it.

    Just go and stick a fork in some loudmouthed dumbarsed golddigger.
     
  9. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    I love the response the guy gave her...excellent.
     
  10. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah me too except for the part of .......35 its basically over

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  11. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Over the hill and gaining speed..I am.
     
  12. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Thing is, that rich guys who lease their women and change them often for the latest model, also grow old, fat and decrepit and there's nothing more tragic than seeing an old fogey with a young bimbo hanging off his arm. Eventually, the old fogey will have to spend his later years on his own as it will be too shocking for him to lease or marry an older woman, unless he wishes to pay through the nose for a (desperate) younger one.
     
  13. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    You are exactly right.

    Shorty, I'm going to go out on a limb here and make the hypothesis that that statement is pure rhetoric by him.
    I've met quite a few very attractive women over 35.

    I agree. I've known guys like that. I have no sympathy for them when they get effed over by a hot chick that thinks more of herself than anyone.

    Here's a classic example of male stupidity in the presence of a hot chick:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21137146/from/RS.1/

    I'm ashamed to share the same gene pool as these two dumbasses.
     
  14. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Well its the same for women right. If they want that "HUNK" with lots of money and an ego to match. Alot of those guys are just players, so don't cry ( the women) when you burned by them.
     
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  15. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think many 'players' cry when they get burned. They usually have other women to fall back on and aren't worried about one girl. Unfortunately, they're the ones usually doing the burning, because they know how to play the game. Most of the time, it's the honest people that get burned.
    I bet that even though you were the one that kicked your ex husband to the curb, you probably felt 'burned' by all of his bad behavior up to that point.
     
  16. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Mikenostic,...mikecaustic,.. the velvet sledgehammer
     
  17. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    NOOOOOOOOO the women who go out with these players cry later!
    I have no sympathy for them.

    Just like no sympathy for the man who needs to have the "HOT CHICK" and gets burned.
     
  18. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    AHHHH.... I see. I totally agree there. But sometimes players (from both sexes) are good enough to dupe people that don't realize that they are players until it's too late. Some are professional daters, like women who will go out on dates with guys (knowing there will be know second date) just to get a free lunch or dinner. Those kinds are very hard to spot.

    Spud, there is no velvet on my slegdehammer, if anything, there are spikes on the end of it!

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    I like the mikecaustic label. That does fit me pretty well. Haha.
     
  19. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    AWWWWWWWWWWWW I am so glad I don't have to date anymore.
     
  20. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Well when she finds a guy who loves her, I certaintly hope they don't sign a prenup because that isn't what marriage is about.

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  21. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I see your point but, I think any guy that is as financially well off as the guy in the OP's article would be stupid to not sign a prenup. If for no other reason that, women like the one who put up the ad in the OP exist.

    Orleander,
    how would you account for women like that that didn't reveal their intentions, then married the guy with every intention of divorcing him after a few years and taking half his shit?
    Let's say he refused to get married to a girl like that (without the knowledge of who she really was) without a prenup just to be on the safe side. She refuses to marry him with a prenup (because she knows she wouldn't get anything). He doesn't back down either and sends her on her way. He just saved himself from getting taken to the cleaners by a golddigger because he stuck to his guns for a prenup.
    Also, here's another way to look at a prenup; ladies, if you get married knowing that you are going to stay together, and yet he still wants to get a prenup, why the hell not just sign it so he will have peace of mind? If nothing comes of it, neither one of you have anything to worry about?
    Why do you put your seatbelt on? You don't get into your car with the intent of getting into an accident, do you?
     
  22. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    I think he only meant it's "over" in the sense that by 35 no matter how good you look (and there are certainly plenty of gorgeous 35+ women) it's more-or-less guaranteed that there will be at least some small number of 25 year-olds who look better than you. So, if you're a gold digger and you're trying to get a guy to pick you based on your looks alone, it is indeed pretty much over.
     
  23. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    AURGH!! Did you not see this little guy??

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