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08-23-07, 05:06 PM #1
What constitudes a spiritual person for you?
For me, it is a person in compassionate communion with nature and all sentient beings...
"Believing" is a hypocritical quality, not of a spiritual person.
Just want to hear opinions...
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08-23-07, 05:10 PM #2
One whom has a great power or quality outside that explained as mental or physical.
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08-23-07, 05:18 PM #6
One who has a capacity for awe and wonder and immerses themselves in the inspiration that exudes from that.
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08-23-07, 05:20 PM #7
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08-23-07, 05:21 PM #8
Here are 28 qualities
SB 11.11.29-32: The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: O Uddhava, a saintly person is merciful and never injures others. Even if others are aggressive he is tolerant and forgiving toward all living entities. His strength and meaning in life come from the truth itself, he is free from all envy and jealousy, and his mind is equal in material happiness and distress. Thus, he dedicates his time to work for the welfare of all others. His intelligence is never bewildered by material desires, and he has controlled his senses. His behavior is always pleasing, never harsh and always exemplary, and he is free from possessiveness. He never endeavors in ordinary, worldly activities, and he strictly controls his eating. He therefore always remains peaceful and steady. A saintly person is thoughtful and accepts Me as his only shelter. Such a person is very cautious in the execution of his duties and is never subject to superficial transformations, because he is steady and noble, even in a distressing situation. He has conquered over the six material qualities — namely hunger, thirst, lamentation, illusion, old age and death. He is free from all desire for prestige and offers honor to others. He is expert in reviving the Kṛṣṇa consciousness of others and therefore never cheats anyone. Rather, he is a well-wishing friend to all, being most merciful. Such a saintly person must be considered the most learned of men. He perfectly understands that the ordinary religious duties prescribed by Me in various Vedic scriptures possess favorable qualities that purify the performer, and he knows that neglect of such duties constitutes a discrepancy in one's life. Having taken complete shelter at My lotus feet, however, a saintly person ultimately renounces such ordinary religious duties and worships Me alone. He is thus considered to be the best among all living entities.
further explained here
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Not all Wisdom...
as is typical christians today play to many falsehoods within Christianity. I attempt to be a-typical among my contemporaries.
I would describe myself as such. But this is perhaps beyond your current perspective and understood conotations of the termAnd the people that rely upon any book for justifying their actions, are just what Nietzchefan said
So what do you rely on...what is your moral compass?
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08-24-07, 12:48 PM #14
I have 3 main categories. Religious, Moral, and Spiritual.
To me, spritual people are the aura reading tree hugging crystal rubbing weirdos.
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08-24-07, 12:58 PM #15
I like your perspective though, not that of a typical Christian; and if you are not offended, it only means that you are in the right path accepting what other people believe.
Now to answer your question, I rely upon my understanding of others; but most of all, my understanding of my own self, my fears, my anger...
By far my moral compass is that of compassion. I attempt to ´cause no harm to others, and forgive them if they harm me.
This is my nature, and my life is based on enjoying the life that was given to me.
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I appreciate the 'roses'.
I call that - "The Comparative Compass". Sometimes I use this metod to make moral decisions when it comes to the finer details that the bible does not make mention of. Theres nothing wrong with it either.Now to answer your question, I rely upon my understanding of others; but most of all, my understanding of my own self, my fears, my anger...
By far my moral compass is that of compassion. I attempt to ´cause no harm to others, and forgive them if they harm me.
This is my nature, and my life is based on enjoying the life that was given to me
The concept of fair and unfair has long be a contentious meditative point for me. More things and events are fair that unfair. When related to a decision he must render upon others it becomes difficult. Everything is potentially unfair. To recieve a gift and not get exactly what you wanted or see some one recieve more than you, or even feeling slighted before someone's affections to another.
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08-26-07, 06:24 AM #17
Correct me if I'm wrong, LG - but these are qualities of what you consider "saintly" persons.
What was asked for were your views of what constitutes SPIRITUAL people.
Unless you are saying that "spiritual" = "saintly"?
If so - please indicate where one is defined as the other.
And can you also please not writing your comments as though they are fact.
If they are YOUR opinions, please state them as that.
If you consider them fact - you will have to provide the significant evidence.
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08-26-07, 10:39 AM #18
"Spirituality" is just another mushy, vague, ill informed concept used by people too lazy to think for themselves. "spirit" from latin spīritus, breath, and spīrāre, to breathe, indicates the fact that breathing seemed to embody some special life essence (which it does!) because without it, you die. Of course, we now know that breathing is a nice mechanism for the exchange of oxygen and co2 in the blood. That's all.
It's another fine example of pre-scientific humans coming up with a concept to give a name to something mysterious without recourse to reason or experiment. And of course, most humans continue to carry all of the ridiculous baggage the religious concept of spirituality (breathing) was saddled with by the ignorant masses of the past.
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