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    Gay Man Rapes & Kills Catholic Mother of 4 Children

    Here's a news article you won't hear on the liberal news media:

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52711

    A partnered homosexual man in Chicago didn't like what a catholic mother of four said about homosexuals, so he raped her and murdered her. His lawyer is trying to justify this treatment as a "hate crime" perpetrated by the catholic woman.


    The murder trial for Nicholas Gutierrez, 23, in Stachowicz' 2002 death has begun in Chicago, where prosecutor Jim McKay described the viciousness of the attack on the 51-year-old mother of four and faithful Catholic Church member.

    She was stabbed, strangled, raped and beaten, and then her body was stuffed in a crawl space under the floor of an apartment, he reported.

    But the suspect's attorney, Crystal Marchigiani, alleged in her opening remarks that it was Stachowicz who attacked Gutierrez, and her verbal assault was what sparked his response.

    "It happened because she could not leave him alone in his (homosexual) lifestyle," she said, describing the apparent confrontation between the two at the Sikorsky Funeral Home where Stochowicz worked and where Gutierrez lived in an apartment with his partner, Ray.
    Here are some of the responses from the gay-affirming community:

    According to a report from the Culture and Family Institute, weblog postings after the murder were full of anti-Christian hate statements.

    "I really don't feel sorry for her. She paid a very steep price for being an arrogant religious fascist. Too bad for her," said "Iris" in a posting on the ACLU Online Forum.

    "Maybe this will give pause to other people who similarly try to 'help' homosexuals," said "Silence Dogood" on the same forum.

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    The woman who did such great evil is dead, but unfortunately the evil and the church and the society which creates it is not, and it will continue to destroy Nicholas Gutierrez and many others. I shake, safely sitting here at home, fully understanding, and fully familiar with, the horrible impact her words must have had for a man already so terribly damaged by his society, and his own mother.
    So tell us what you think about the incidence.

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    She didn't deserve to die for it. But I see why he was angry for her to keep judging his lifestyle when it didn't affect her and was none of her business.

    Was he molesting her kids or hurting her family? No. He was in an adult mutual relationship with another partner.

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    His apartment adjoined the place where she worked.

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    Back to spamming us with WorldNutDaily eh Woody?

    TUESDAY, JULY 3 Speaking of galling doings: Today brings the first of the week's soul-molesting horror stories, this one from Chicago, where a difference of opinion between a pair of funeral-home workers led to unimaginable mayhem. The perpetrator: 19-year-old Nicholas Gutierrez, who lived on the premises of the Northwest Side funeral home with his male partner. The victim: Gutierrez's 51-year-old coworker Mary Stachowicz, a practicing Catholic and mother of four who reportedly made a habit of citing biblical condemnations of homosexuality while urging Gutierrez to repent his sinful lifestyle. Things moved from questionable pestering to deadly violence on November 13, 2002, when Stachowicz allegedly asked Gutierrez, "Why do you have sex with boys instead of girls?" In response, Gutierrez beat, raped, stabbed, and strangled Stachowicz, then stuffed her garbage-bag-wrapped corpse in a funeral-home crawlspace. In November 2006, 23-year-old Gutierrez was found guilty of first-degree murder and sexual assault. Today, he was sentenced to life in prison, escaping the death penalty thanks to what defense lawyers cited as "a history of severe physical and emotional abuse." Condolences to all, especially the family and friends of Mary Stachowicz, a lady who clearly didn't deserve to be raped and murdered for her loud-mouthed beliefs, and who is now being paraded as a posthumous poster child for the liberal bias of the mainstream media, which conservative Christians blast (perhaps rightly) for turning Matthew Shepard into a world-renowned martyr while dismissing Mary Stachowicz as just another Catholic woman fatally attacked by a gay man for her religious beliefs.
    http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=262587

    The big difference between Matthew Shepard and this woman is that he was brutally murdered for the crime of existing, while this woman was brutally murdered because she pestered a mentally imbalanced man. She certainly didn't deserve her fate, but it seems it wouldn't have happened if she had minded her own business.

    So, maybe the lesson to be learned here is that people ought to mind their own business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    His apartment adjoined the place where she worked.
    How is this relevant?

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    Where is his pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    His apartment adjoined the place where she worked.

    What form of rape did this sex pervert inflict upon the victim - sodomy? Nothing new under the sun ...

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    What's your hate-fillled posting for, Woody? Proof that gay guys can murder folks just as the thousands of straight murderers can?

    You are pathetic.

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    I don't feel sorry for her at all.

    I would have voted 'she got what she deserved' had the gay man just punched her in the face instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreodont View Post
    What's your hate-fillled posting for, Woody? Proof that gay guys can murder folks just as the thousands of straight murderers can?

    You are pathetic.
    This woman was murdered for what she believed. Why won't you admit it is a hate crime?

    The issue here is, what do you call a "hate crime"?

    If a gay kills a catholic for what they believe, it's NOT a hate crime.
    BUT if a catholic verbally confronts a gay about sexual orientation, then it IS a hate crime.

    I think that is rather pathetic myself.
    Last edited by Woody; 08-19-07 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutter View Post
    What form of rape did this sex pervert inflict upon the victim - sodomy? Nothing new under the sun ...

    Well, so much for immutability theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repo Man View Post
    How is this relevant?
    unavoidable conflict scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repo Man View Post
    Back to spamming us with WorldNutDaily eh Woody?


    http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=262587

    The big difference between Matthew Shepard and this woman is that he was brutally murdered for the crime of existing, while this woman was brutally murdered because she pestered a mentally imbalanced man. She certainly didn't deserve her fate, but it seems it wouldn't have happened if she had minded her own business.

    So, maybe the lesson to be learned here is that people ought to mind their own business?
    I ran the same article before a predominately gay sub-forum. They initially said the same thing until they researched their "gay tabloids." Then they found out it is indeed true, unfortunately.

    The woman's obituary is in the Chicago tabloids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    unavoidable conflict scenario.
    The conflict wasn't at all unavoidable. I don't go around telling my Christian co-workers "You all believe in a load of superstitious nonsense". I'd get in trouble at my job, and rightly so. I'd be angering them for no good reason. What would you think of a Muslim who was constantly trying to convert his Christian co-workers? "Why do you worship Jesus, when the only true god is Allah?"

    There are times to keep your opinion to yourself. The inability to do so can cost you your job, and sometimes your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    I ran the same article before a predominately gay sub-forum. They initially said the same thing until they researched their "gay tabloids." Then they found out it is indeed true, unfortunately.

    The woman's obituary is in the Chicago tabloids.
    Well yay for you! WND is still a non credible source. And why did you link to a version of the story from 2006? As you can see from the infinitely more credible source I linked to, the perpetrator has been convicted and sentenced now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repo Man View Post
    Well yay for you! WND is still a non credible source. And why did you link to a version of the story from 2006? As you can see from the infinitely more credible source I linked to, the perpetrator has been convicted and sentenced now.
    It is a true story would you like better links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    It is a true story would you like better links?
    Do you have some sort of reading comprehension problem? I have already linked to a more credible source.

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    from another forum:

    WorldNetNews?

    I would say that I want to hear the facts - all the facts.
    That's what one does in a trial. It's not usually a one sided "she said" thing.

    I am also not sure about "Iris." It's plausible that there is a person that is so jaded that she would say that, but it is also plausible that she is someone that is misrepresenting themselves - POE.

    When you go to the WorldNetDaily site, it says that according to a Culture and Family Issues, "Iris" says that she doesn't feel sorry for her... in a post in the ACLU forum.
    I searched the ACLU forum to see if I could find it myself, but I couldn't. I couldn't even find the story there.
    Why quote the woman in WND, link it to secondary site, and not right to the quote itself?

    The article claims that she asked him why he had sex with boys and girls, and he snapped.

    It suggests she just asked him a question. I question if she simply asked him a simple question and he snapped. Even if he wasn't emotionally stable, a person doesn't just snap like that. Otherwise, he would have snapped long ago.

    So I searched. I found it on ArmyOfGod. I found it on ChristianNewsWire. I found it on AmericansForTruth - basically all just using the CutNPaste method of reporting each other's news.

    One claimed that it was exactly like Matthew Shepard (National Review). Mathew Shepard made a pass, the guys decided to beat him to death. Instead of telling the woman that it is none of her business, he stabbed, beat, strangled, and raped (?), and once dead, stuffed her in a crawl space.

    Then, they argue, that had she been a lesbian, and the man heterosexual, it would have made national news.

    Really? Matthew Shepard happened about the same time as the Byrd murder. He was a black man dragged 3 miles to his death behind a car. It didn't make as much headlines as Shepard.

    Other gay men were also killed around that time - the guy that was burned in a tire fire, the guy that was beaten so badly that police saw blood on the awning overhead.

    They were also gay. Why didnt' they get coverage?

    So, I continued.
    Surely, someone is going to have this news story.

    http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=262587

    This reports that he was convicted of first degree murder with life in prison, escaping the death penalty because of a history of emotional and physical abuse.

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    Condolences to all, especially the family and friends of Mary Stachowicz, a lady who clearly didn't deserve to be raped and murdered for her loud-mouthed beliefs, and who is now being paraded as a posthumous poster child for the liberal bias of the mainstream media, which conservative Christians blast (perhaps rightly) for turning Matthew Shepard into a world-renowned martyr while dismissing Mary Stachowicz as just another Catholic woman fatally attacked by a gay man for her religious beliefs.

    What what what???
    Perhaps rightly?
    But this is a liberal paper!

    Or maybe they are right.

    I agree, this is obviously a heinous crime. The woman didn't deserve that, nor did the children deserve to lose her. I'm sure my support of Mary and condemnation of the killer won't be in anyone's "news" story.

    What bothers me about these stories is that there is an undertone on the way which they are reported.

    A gay man flips out, and kills someone heinously.
    The undertone is - see what gay people do?
    The same was said of two gay men who kidnapped, raped and killed a boy. The post suggested that therefore, homosexuals (in general) are dangerous.

    That is ridiculous. Simply in the last 24 hours, one can point out the murders and rapes of heterosexual men, but that doesn't mean ALL heterosexual men are murderers and rapists, nor that they are all dangerous.

    In the case of Shepard, having read a bit about it, it was more of a circus. Everyone was talking about it, so reporters were all over it. Just as quickly, they left when the draw was gone. It's about ratings.

    When you have 10,000 in God's Country, you have to pick and choose some, apparently. If we reported all 10,000 nationally, I don't think there would be time for anything else.

    What also concerns me is that I question whether people are actually concerned for what happened to Mary, or if she, like Shephard, is simply being used to advance an agenda. If that's true, taking advantage of someone else's tragedy, then it's not going to win much favor for anyone who can see through it.

    It's a real tragedy that this ever happened.

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    Gay.com began running the story on November 19, a full week before the first mainstream news story appeared in The Washington Times.

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    How incredibly horrible of him to do that. He didn't only kill her, he killed a family. I don't care what she said to him, she didn't do anything to him.

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