Pirbright worker contracts legionnaires' disease Matthew Taylor Thursday August 9, 2007 Guardian Unlimited A worker at the government research centre in Pirbright at the centre of the foot and mouth outbreak has contracted legionnaires' disease, with officials saying the lab is a possible source of contamination, Guardian Unlimited can reveal. Environmental health inspectors took water samples from the Institute for Animal Health facility in Surrey today. An interim report by the Health and Safety Executive this week said employees either from the IAH or the private firm Merial - which shares the Pirbright site - had somehow spread the foot and mouth virus which has infected two herds in the local area. Whats the connection between Foot and Mouth and Legionnaire's Disease?
Maybe your first question should be "IS there a connection between Foot and Mouth and Legionnaire's Disease ?". And i dont think there is.
Cooking doesn't kill mad cow disease. If someone who has the disease is operated on, the instruments will remain infected even after they have been in an autoclave. The connection between legionaires disease and foot and mouth diseaase is that they are both being studied at the laboratory at Pirbright, and the case of legionaires shows a second lapse of security. Their sister lab at Compton had a similar problem with bovine TB. If this third escape has occurred, then they would be better closed. I hope they haven't got any smallpox or Spanish flu viruses on their premises.
...LOL! That's OVER cooking ....and there is a difference, ya' know? And don't say anything bad about jerky ....that stuff costs about $1,000 per pound, so it must be good! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Baron Max
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Sorry, I have a husband who eats shoe leather. It offends my sensibilities. I have slowly gotten him to eat it medium well....only took me 13 yrs.
The cleaning needs to be so thorough as to physically remove all traces of the infection. It's not a virus, it has to do with the shape of the protein. http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=671&id=1118012006
From http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol7no3_supp/brown.htm: "Cooking cannot be guaranteed to sterilize BSE infectivity: experiments using different strains of spongiform encephalopathy agents have shown only partial inactivation at temperatures as high as 350°C (662°F)"
From http://www.cjdfoundation.org/documents/aboutcjd.pdf: "Prions are different from bacteria and viruses The discovery that prion diseases were transmissible led researchers to the natural conclusions that the infective agent had to be a bacterium or a virus.When, however, infectious tissue remained infectious after treatment with both heat (which destroys most bacteria) and ultraviolet light (which should inactivate viruses) the conclusion was that some other kind of infectious agent was responsible. In 1982, neurologist Stanley Prusiner of the University of California provided the first direct evidence that the infectious agent was a protein. (This is where the word ‘prion’ comes from - proteinaceous infectious particle.) The idea, originally put forward by the British investigators Griffith and Patterson, was highly unusual and even heretical at first-although it has slowly gained acceptance over the years." From http://www.foodhaccp.com/memberonly/newsletter147.html: "Current scientific research indicates that cooking will not kill the BSE agent."
I can't see anything on google which suggests that prions evolved into viruses. It would seem logical that such a primitive virus-like material would be a stepping stage to viruses themselves. I'm not responding to your post, just adding an observation.
What would be interesting to know is if the Cows in question were fed hormones or came from stock of cattle fed hormones. After all there's been all that talk over the years about the hormones given to Milk cattle to increase their grazing consumption to increase the milk production (coughmonsantocough) It lead me to question how the cows milk would factor into 'Peoples' consumption since the majority intake milk produce in some form. (It would explain outbreaks of Obesity) Better consumption by corporate standards obviously means an increase in the consumer markets (I think the whole milk production thing was just a fleecing of all those gullible parties for a higher consumer market in other areas e.g. Fast Foods). None the less if they are Beef cattle they could still be given hormones to lessen their fat and make their meat leaner. This in turn could bring into questions like the 'Flesh eating viruses' that people gained, or outbreaks of both foot and mouth and mad cow disease. I am not saying their is evidence to support my points, however it shouldn't invalidate them as being an avenue of inquiry.
