are all americans illegal immigrants?

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  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    it seems like alot of white americans complain about illigal immigrants. but arent you all decended from illigal immigrants who "invaded" america and took it from natives?


    it would seem only fair that the land gets invaded once again by thousands of assholes, now you can have a taste of what it is like

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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, they were colonists. Since the Indians didn't have an immigration policy, no one could have violated the law. And thus, there were no early "illegal" immigrants.

    Maybe "invaders", maybe "colonists", maybe "conquerors", ......, but NOT illegal immigrants because there were no laws against immigration.

    "fair" is all pretty subjective.

    But remember, we now have laws against illegal immigration, so the people who "invade" do so against our immigration laws.

    Where are your ancestors from, Empty? How far back can you trace it?

    Most people on Earth are "immigrants" from somewhere else ....and as far as I know, no land on Earth belongs to it's "rightful or original owner."

    Baron Max
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Totally there was no America before the colonialists invaded and took the land. It did not exist on the map of the world and so it is illegal. Like the British have done, the Americans should restore the land to the natives and go back home.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Totally there was no US of America before the colonialists invaded and took the land. It did not exist on the map of the world and so it is illegal. Like the British have done, after 200 years in India for example, the Americans should return it to the natives and go back home.
     
  8. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    we are illegal immigrants everywhere in the world.we should all go back to africa ( cradle of humanity) by retracing our ancestors footsteps..:itold:
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Can't be illegal if we integrate, only if we commit genocide
     
  10. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    Man is the only creature on the planet bound by travel rules/boundaries. No other free animal or bird or even insects have to apply to visit/stay in foreign lands:shrug:
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    And wear clothes. *sneers in disgust*
     
  12. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    Man is the only creature on the planet who is bound by travel rules/boundaries.
    no other free animal/bird/insect has to apply for temporary/permanent visa to visit/stay in foreign lands..

    we are willing to kill each other over land/sea/sky....

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  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Nah, mostly its money and power, or in the case of the US, petrodollars.


    PS. Use the quote button sweetie, even if you are talking to yourself.

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  14. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    America is a Land of Oppurtunity for anybody who is willing to work hard at achieving his/her dream and become successful.
     
  15. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    The early settlers obviously have an added advantage coz they got there first
     
  16. John99 Banned Banned

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    That is ceratainly true, and it is a damn shame.

    I laugh at the American bashers here because what is an American anyway? Can you say only British subjects are American? NO, can you say only Irish subjects are American? No...i just dont get the logic.

    New York City's public schools students represent 188 different countries. That is the epitome of diversity. As a matter of fact as far as i can tell U.S represents the entire planet.

    A handfull of British came here first, but after that anyone from everywhere came here and was treated equally. Many nations would not even let you in unless you have something to offer, in U.S people come here with the clothes on their backs.

    I am not really one for borders myself and have no problem with one world government, one language and one currency. Seems to me we are holding progress back.
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    All you ever wanted to know about the [ENC]United States [/ENC]but were afraid to find out.
     
  18. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    Computer is slow. wasnt sure whether message got submitted

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  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    In some ways being an American just means being from planet Earth. This is a good thread, this is something that needs to be hashed out.
     
  20. tascyd Re vera, cara mea, mea nil ref Registered Senior Member

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    " illegal immigration " is faced by every developed country coz all the facilities are in place- good jobs, better salaries, good educational system, good infrastructure, etc. People from developing nations come here to take advantage of these resources which are probably non existent in their own countries.
     
  21. Dark520 Rebuilt Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I can think of several ways to say that we weren't illegal:

    1. The Native Americans didn't have a country, or at least one recognized by the rest of the world, which, as far as I'm concerned counts for nothing. No country = no immigration laws = no way to break those laws that don't exist.
    2. Some what a repeat of #1, but the Native Americans didn't have immigration laws, so there was no way you could break them.
    3. The Native Americans Essentially gave us amnesty as soon as we took over this whole country and the Native Americans stopped resisting. It was passive amnesty, but amnesty nonetheless.

    Were Americans the first ones to America? No. Were we illegal though? No.
     
  22. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Does any nation on Earth allow immigrants into their country without a proper visa or other legal documentation? And if they sneak into the country illegally, do those nations allow the people to stay?

    Does India allow illegal immigration?

    Why is it that everyone seems to think that America should allow anyone to sneak into the country ....and stay?

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  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats how you formed the country, remember?
     

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