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06-14-07, 02:52 PM #1
Palestinians---Peace---Oxymoron
Even the Palestinians can't get along with each other, they are giving each other flying lessons, the take offs are great but the landings are a little rough. What is it with the Palestinians everything that they do ends up screwing those that help them and now their are screwing each other?
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle2651057.ece
Hamas seizes Fatah base as bloody battles push Gaza towards civil war
Hamas said it had seized control of the northern Gaza headquarters of the large Fatah-dominated national security force. A protracted and bloody battle was fought between 200 of its gunmen, firing mortars and grenades, and up to 500 security force members holed up inside left. At least 12 were killed and 30 injured. More than two dozen jeeps carrying Fatah reinforcements to the battle failed to get through roadblocks manned by Hamas gunmen.Also in Ramallah, Fatah's central committee decided last night to suspend its membership of the coalition government and promised to pull out altogether if the fighting did not stop. Earlier in the day, Hamas gunmen controlling the rooftop of the European Hospital in Khan Yunis exchanged heavy fire with Fatah security forces at a nearby base; 15 children at a kindergarten in the line of fire were rushed into the hospital building to protect them from the shooting.http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFullYesterday's and Monday's combat appears to have ignored even the minimal previous constraint. Street executions were carried out, at least one militant from each faction was hurled from the upper floors of high buildings, and fighting spilled into hospital precincts.
Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas accused Hamas of staging a "bloody coup" to try and take full control of the Gaza Strip.His allegations came as thousands of Hamas militiamen launched a full-scale attack on Fatah figures and institutions in most parts of the Gaza Strip. Hamas fighters captured the headquarters of the Fatah-backed security forces in the northern part of the Strip.
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06-14-07, 02:54 PM #2Registered Senior Member
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Buffalo, don't you get that it's all Israel's fault?
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06-14-07, 02:57 PM #3
Those Palestinians! Why won't they live in peace???????????????????????????????????????
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06-14-07, 02:58 PM #4
Yes, I tried that logic with my father in my younger days, I had transgressed the rules of civilized behavior and my Father made is very uncomfortable to sit for a few day when I tried that logic, to bad we couldn't do that with the Palestinians and Arabs in the Middle East.
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06-14-07, 03:06 PM #5
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06-14-07, 03:08 PM #6
And why in the hell does this have any thing to do with the Palestinians killing each other?
They are killing each other, nothing to do with Israel, all to do with who controls the money.
sam you are pathetic, how are you going to blame this on the Israel and The U.S.? this is between the Palestinians, and what they are doing to each other.
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06-14-07, 03:10 PM #7
Did the Nazis have nothing to do with the Jews killing other Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising
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06-14-07, 03:17 PM #8
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06-14-07, 03:17 PM #9
Again what the hell does this have to do with the Palestinians? and their charge straight into a civil war.
I just ask how you were going to blame the Jews for this, and you pull something from 63 years in the past? from WWII? I guess in your eyes it is always the Jews fault, again sam you are pathetic.
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06-14-07, 03:24 PM #10
No I figure undermining the elected government and arming the dissidents of choice, holding back the taxes from the legal government while arming and funding the dissidents,all the while occupying and starving a country is an excellent recipe for civil war. Its already been tried and tested in Africa, it works. The US is also arming Sunni insurgents in a Shia majority Iraq and Iran. Coincidence?
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06-14-07, 03:46 PM #11
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06-14-07, 04:19 PM #12Registered Senior Member
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Sam also conveniently ignores the fact that the partition in the third column was undertaken during the war when Israel was invaded by Egypt and Jordan, mostly for nothing other reason than the fact it existed.
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06-14-07, 05:19 PM #13
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06-14-07, 06:49 PM #14
At least I do. It's funny that the same tactics are being employed in Iraq currently with shia and sunni exploding on eachother, and the US not only arming them but stepping to the side. Mossad and the CIA must have decided that turning groups against each other is the best way to destroy them. The experimented in the 60's on the hippies, by flooding the movement with LSD and coke, which lead to the degradation of any motions the group wanted.
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06-14-07, 07:10 PM #15
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06-14-07, 07:10 PM #16
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06-14-07, 09:16 PM #17Registered Senior Member
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The US didn't "flood" anything in the 60s with drugs, Odin. The free market took care of that...
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06-14-07, 09:37 PM #18
so this are the kind of sites you dwell in sam?
http://www.nogw.com/
if we wanted to exterminate anyone, we would have done so already. all of you conveniently forget that we left gaza, we gave the palestinians millions of dollars, the UN gaze the palestinians billions of dollars, so have the US, and instead of using their money to solve the situation they are in, they used it to buy weapons.America Is No Longer a Democratic Nation:
Zionists Have Seized Control During The 2000 ELECTION COUP D' ETAT,
Installed Puppet Regime
hamas aim is to construct a muslim regime in gaza. now, i know you support that sam, but think of the consequences of that for the palestinians.
so you want us to fund hamas? you might say, we made a mistake by agreeing to democracy in the first place, ill agree to, that democracy in gaza failed. but you want us to give money to those who are firing on us? how stupid do you think were gonna get?No I figure undermining the elected government and arming the dissidents of choice, holding back the taxes from the legal government while arming and funding the dissidents,all the while occupying and starving a country is an excellent recipe for civil war. Its already been tried and tested in Africa, it works. The US is also arming Sunni insurgents in a Shia majority Iraq and Iran. Coincidence?
i think the civil war is happening, because hamas militants see the fatah as an enemy. hamas leadership lost control of what was going on ages ago, coincide with the agreements they made in saudi arabia that havent lasted.
its nice to have a scapegoat all the time, but this one is entirely the palestinians fault. if we were starving them, and killing them as you said, i dont think they would have fought each other, they would probably fought us.
if they want their freedom so BAD, all they need to do is stop firing on us, stop firing on each other, and start constructing a life for their own sake. if its war they want, well, you can fill in the rest. if you fill their heads with dreams of driving us to the sea, then dont be surprised if the fighting and killing will continue.
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06-14-07, 09:41 PM #19
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06-14-07, 09:48 PM #20
yeah, i heard that claim many times. its true that sharon brought the muslim brothers to be an opposition to the fatah, but that doesnt mean we created them. now you have blamed israel for funding fatah in this war, iran is supporting hamas, politically as well as financially and military. if i have to choose a worse group between the two for the palestinians it will be hamas, who sparked this whole thing and aim to create a muslim regime, then execute their "resistance" towered israel. the consequences of this road for the palestinians can be fatal. still, its palestinians who are firing on one another, not we this time.

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