Such clear language from a UN treaty makes the case for genocide valid when you realize that since the American Corporate/Government/Military complex declared economic and military warfare on Iraq that 2+ miliion Iraqi human beings have perished . (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Genocide, as defined, applies to "a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". Which particular group do you think is the subject of your genocide, Brian?
Well lets see . Iraq as whole from 1991 through to 2003 and followed by the illegal occupation . US attacks on tribal Arabs . The current operation Enduring freedom has simply targeted Arabs so far . Sunnis are being vigourously targeted by America at the moment , because of their resistance to US occupation . As a whole I believe what I put forward that a case in any of the above could be made for genocide . Iraq has been at the mercy of a protracted invasion/siege/attack occupation for 14 years .
What methods were used by the US Army in order to supposedly "exterminate" the general population of Iraq?
It's not genocide. No one seriously believes that America is trying to kill all the Iraqis. The only real genocide happening today other than maybe Darfur is the slow insidious genocide of white people caused by their governments insistence of flooding their countries with non whites which reduces the number of white people in a myriad of ways (mainly through lowering white reproduction).
There are a couple of more or less genocidal campaigns in Iraq being abetted by the US. One is the Shia ethnic cleansing of the Sunni from parts of Baghdad, culminating now inthe US actually building walls around Sunni ghettos, with entrances controlled by Shia soldiers. And another is the Kurdish ethnic cleansing of Turkmen and non-Kurd Shia or Sunni from various cities and areas of the north.
Where's the intent? If we inteded to kill all the ragheads, they'd be dead by now. Iraq wouldn't be a mire, because there wouldn't actually be an Iraqis left. As it is, there are lots of Iraqis left.
Brian, Obviously, the US has no intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.
There might be a genocide of the Sunnis, which we are least partially responsible for causing, but I doubt it was deliberate.
Here is one of the methods : The Americans are sure as hell giving it one hell of an attempt at it. Which the US controls via the Iraqi Interior Ministry , and uses this media invented "sectarian civil war " as a cover for de-Baathification of Iraq . Genocide does not simply mean having to kill everyone of the targeted group to qualify , simply murdering enough so the targeted group becomes more easily ruled and exploited qualifies it for genocide . In whole or in part , which part do these Iraqis fall into : And when you have American leaders make these comments : Doesnt take much to add 2 and 2 together . Actually if the European courts deemed the campaign against the Iraqi Kurds genocide : Then conditions in Iraq under the American occupier certainly add up to genocide .
Brian Foley, Have you ever been to Iraq? Sanctions? Werent countries buying oil from Saddam all along (YES) and your article is dated 1998, did you know Saddam built himself a 600 room palace that same year. Was'nt nine palaces enough? SIX HUNDRED F***in ROOMS WHILE PEOPLE ARE SATARVING. Would you say his family was living large ($$$$$$$$$$) and in charge? I read on the net about schools being built that insurgents or terrorists dont even have to blow up because parents are too afraid to send their kids to them anyway so no one goes. Finally, You see so much sitting at your computer, what if your wrong about it all? What if being wrong IS what is getting people in Iraq killed.
No For a corrupt American/UN sponsored food for oil deal , needless to say under American controll plenty made money whilst millions died . Did you know that those sumptious palaces that were supposedly bulit by Saddam were actual the homes of upper class Iraqis who fled the sanctions to Dubai . That explains when they were trumpeted by the media why none had any furnishings . Of course gullible people such as yourself buys this propaganda without a single thought , even after the Lies told about WMD . well he died a pauper on the lam , and now that the US has murdered hs 2 sons as well and the US controls Iraq , just where are these missing billions ? There is no excuse now why the US cant ante up with the proof , so where is the cash ? And I read a story where Iraqis just love American occupation . You are killing Iraqis , you and your gullabilty to any LIE told by the media , your readiness to defend this God awful attack on innocent human beings , means you are as lethal as any bullet . Explain to me why after all the LIE's that have been exposed about Saddam , WMD , ties to Al Qaeda , links to 9/11 and that bogus Iraqi atomic bomb WHY is it that you so trust what your media and goverment tells you is the truth ? Cant you sit back in your chair and ponder that yes America is the evil doer .
Brian your last post is based on emotion and not fact or reality. It should also be noted that you are posting personal opinion from thousands of miles away. First you post a crusty link claiming sanctions killed millions so even if all these lavish palaces were built for other government officials they were being built while people could not even get $10 a day to eat? You support this?
Their shell shocked and want it to end, which was the plan of the insurgents. Maybe this is the reason why millions will continue to suffer under opression (Africa and other places) while the whole world watches and does nothing. Seems like opression works, when we are too afraid to make changes. Go see my thread in the psudoscience section and tell me what you think/ What the hell?? I dont make policy Brian. There is no reason we can't be mates (in the european sense).
Iraq under Saddam was the last remaining strong Arab nation which could pose a threat to Israel. Egypt was pacified by the assassination of the strong Arab leader Anwar Sadat, and replaced with a puppet Hosni Mubarak. In order to pacify the Arabs, the US, Israel, and the Europeans initiated the Iran-Iraq war, they attacked Iraq for putting down a secession in its former province of Kuwait, and later they overtly invaded Iraq on lies. This is a massive plan by the Western powers to break the back of the Arabs. In many ways, the US forces and their puppets have massacred civilian populations such as in the Fallujah, which they also used illegal chemical weapons. This is a slaughter of the Arab people of Iraq, and it is the first move to bring war to the other Arab nations, and eventually the Muslim world.
Is this the same Anwar Sadat, who was assassinated for signing a Peace Treaty with Israel? Maybe you better check your history, yes Sadat was a strong leader, but it was Egyptian Islamic radicals that assassinated Sadat in October 1981, because of the treaty with Israel. Sadat before the Knesset President Anwar Sadat's Address to the Israeli Knesset ... What is peace for Israel? It means that Israel lives in the region with her Arab neighbors in ... http://www.ibiblio.org/sullivan/docs/Knesset-speech.html Anwar Sadat Chair for Peace and Development at University of ... In foreign affairs, Anwar Sadat stood out for his courage and bold diplomacy. ... Sadat’s opening to the West and the peace treaty with Israel, while lauded ... http://www.bsos.umd.edu/SADAT/people/anwar_sadat.htm Camp David Accords - MSN Encarta Despite peace between Egypt and Israel, the two sides were unable to ... Egyptian Islamic radicals within the military assassinated Sadat in October 1981. ... http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761590224/Camp_David_Accords.html
The only reason that Anwar Sadat was able to secure the Sinai was because Egypt had the upper hand at the end of the war. Israel will never conclude a treaty like this if they had the upper hand. Leaving his policies aside, he was a great Arab nationalist and it was in the interest of Israel to see him replaced by the puppet Hosni Mubarak. Hosni Mubarak completely destroyed the Egyptian military, ending Egypt's power forever.
My last post was based on common sense . Those palaces were mansions of wealthy Iraqis in wealthy suburbs of Baghdad , what you saw was a propaganda charade , if you noticed none of those homes had any furnishings and this was explained that the furniture was looted , yet all the gold trimmings were left in the bathrooms .They would of been built obviously in the 1980s , as they could not of been built under the sanctions . Thast comon sense . No people were dying in Iraq because of the non-existence of medicines which were denied them by America , and milk powders were also embargoed which sent infant mortality through the roof all by America . They are suffering under an illegal US occupation which is neglecting Iraqs infrastructure particularly in hospitals which is resulting in the needless deaths of thousands of Iraqis . The US which is the occupier under the Geneva Convention is responsible for the well being of the Iraqi population . Oppression works when people as yourself do not OKay That is what you implied I was doing , so i made the same assesment toward you .
