criminals, killers, rapists, chemical "imbalence"

[EmptyForceOfChi]

you know how certain people are pittied and looked upon as if the things they do are not the fault of there own due to brain damage or chemical imbalence.

well lets say there was a part of the brain responsible for "humane acts" and/or "kindness and compassion" towards others.

if that part of the brain was damaged or if a particular person had a chemical imbalence and did not se anything wrong with what he is doing, would that make them such a bad person or a victim in his own right?


lets say there is a part of the brain or a certain chemical int he body that makes us "not care anymore" and "not see anything wrong with bad things" if a person has this "illness" is it right to imprison them or give them the death sentence for say raping a wome or slaughtering some people, or robbing people etc,

i have just done some reaserch and it just so happens scientists believe there might be such a part of the brain wich deals with humane acts and compassion,


so what if we are imprisoning thousands of people, and giving hundreds the death pealty for bieng "bad people" and showing no remorse on these type of grounds,




what are people opinions on this type of thing?



peace.

[draqon]

so what if we are imprisoning thousands of people, and giving hundreds the death pealty for bieng "bad people" and showing no remorse on these type of grounds,


what are people opinions on this type of thing?

Are you ready to pay even more taxmoney for federal budget to distribute money to pharmacist companies like pfizer, so that they develop a way to regulate chemical imbalance?

peace.

Everlasting.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

what about the point of this thread?


you have a very distracted mind dont you dragon, i always notice your posts usualy do not answer the question bieng asked,

its ok but i would like you to address the "main" issue please.

and no i dont want to pay more tax money people in london get the worst end of every deal, we pay too much for everything, it we cant use our cars in the city without paying congestion charges, but we already pay road tax wih is supposed to cover road use, if i wanted to travel from central london to north london on the over rails (wich most people have to do each morning) it would cost around £13 per day wich is about $25 just from central london to north london,


anyway! back to the issue at hand.


peace,

[draqon]

your thread is on the grounds of morality. Whether it is right to imprison and liberate from pain to society those who corrupt it, simply because they have chemical imbalance. The answer is as is, morality is in the eye of those who are in the majority and follow the judicial decisions (that is everything is as close that which is anticipated for every action taken).

Is it moral to kill them? No. Is there no other way? No, there isn't currently. So I ask myself again, is it moral to kill them? Yes.

Kill them, because they are nevertheless criminals, whatever cover there is, they are criminals, the evil that has a potential of disrupting this society. So kill evil, or it will kill you.

peace,

Eternal.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

so if somebody has something wrong with thier brain or a serious chemical imbalence in ANY cicumstance, whatever actions they do that are against the law they should be punished like a regular healthy memebr of society?

peace.

[draqon]

so if somebody has something wrong with thier brain or a serious chemical imbalence in ANY cicumstance, whatever actions they do that are against the law they should be punished like a regular healthy memebr of society?

Yes that is true. They should be punished not because they had this chemical imbalance but because they did not have the power of will to control themselves because of this imbalance and thus disturbed the peace of society.

peace.

Eternal.

[tablariddim]

A chemical imbalance in the mind is probably much more common than we believe. Everybody has some chemical imbalance, the same as everybody has differently activated neural pathways. The crux of the matter is that if somebody is a bane on society, has commited heinous acts and is a danger to the rest of us; our first priority as a society is to get that person out of circulation asap.

If they can be cured by a dose of drugs, that's another matter, but can society afford the costs of treatment, observation and followup treatment for tens of thousands of chemically imbalanced criminals?

If the answer is yes, then it should be reasonable to expect similar treatment for all members of society, because as I said, we are all chemically imbalanced to a degree. Can society afford to do this? Obviously, not.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

so does society punish those with brain/chemical problems that are currently accepted as problems the same as regular healthy people?.


or do they get special treatment?


peace.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

currently.

[Bowser]

You people have reclassified the prison system into a mental health facility.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

this is not my personal opinion if thats what your implying, it is a question,


peace,

[Bowser]

I haven't an opinion. It's easy to hate a child rapist or someone inclined towards violence.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

nobody hates animals for raping other animals or murdering other animals, but humans are expected to act as if we are not animals anymore,

but we are. people say "how can people do things like that" the answer is because we can and we are wild beats that are domesticated.




peace.

[Bowser]

...we are wild beats...

More so in our youth.

[EmptyForceOfChi]

we can be moulded easyer in our youth, into very wild, or very domestic, just like an animal.

but we are still beats in our adult life, a child who is raised in the wild will be more of a beast when it is an adult,


a child who is born into civil households. will be less of a beast in his adult life,


but we are still animals, and if we are pushed to far we can snap like a beast. we can kill we can mame we are capable of any beast like act an animal can do,


maybe we are worse because we know consciously what we are doing, and still do it anyway.


peace.

[Bowser]

EmptyForceOfChi,

You are not a domesticated animal. As for criminals, it might be that they have been raised as such.

[tablariddim]

EmptyForceOfChi,

You are not a domesticated animal. As for criminals, it might be that they have been raised as such.

Bowser...aren't you a dog?

[Bowser]

Bowser...aren't you a dog?

In the larger scheme of things? Yes. Better to be a dog than an actor, player or portrayer. It's all very large, y'know.

As for domestic animals, the thought is that you should know you are more. Right?

[EmptyForceOfChi]

well arent we just animals that over time have become more "civil" and "domesticated"

actualy i stick by my point, but looking at it properly, we are not civil. we are war mongering violence loving beats at heart .


i wonder if the police force or any authority did not exist whatsoever, and there was no punishment for our actions, how many of us would act "civil" i think we would all kill each other rob steal plunder untill there was nothing left.


peace.