DaJaVue and Time Travel

**ImNotMozartImBetter** · 03-02-07, 08:20 PM

This has happened to me. Me and my step-father experienced something very unusual and I thought I would share it with you all. We experience the exact same DaJa vu of the exact same thing. As we were talking about it we realized that we could of some how time travelled. Now, I know this is very unlikely, but what are yalls thoughts?

**swivel** · 03-02-07, 09:13 PM

Time travel is not possible. I am 100% sure of this.

**ImNotMozartImBetter** · 03-02-07, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by swivel

Time travel is not possible. I am 100% sure of this.

Very possible, you just do not know it. If you have had a memory you have time travelled. A memory takes you back to that exact moment and you remember everything that was going on at the time. Therefore, you travelled back through time. This just what happened here, but we did it through Daja vu.

**globenstein** · 03-02-07, 09:49 PM

I wouldn't go as far as saying a Déjà Vu (this is how you spell it) is an actual time travel. I have experienced the feeling of déjà vu many times but I found it was more the impression of having dreamt what was happening, which leads me to think its more something to do with the subconscious or even the random occurrence of an event that happened similarly before.

Time travel may be possible but I don't think our neurons can do it.

**swivel** · 03-02-07, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by ImNotMozartImBetter

Very possible, you just do not know it. If you have had a memory you have time travelled. A memory takes you back to that exact moment and you remember everything that was going on at the time. Therefore, you travelled back through time. This just what happened here, but we did it through Daja vu.

Nope. The first time that I recall that memory is the first time that I have recalled that memory. It is a different time than the time that I actually experienced the thing that I am remembering. I can tell that the two states are different, because that first time, I didn't know what was going to happen next.

The second time I recall that memory is different than the first time I recalled it. Because I can also recall recalling it.

This isn't time travel. It is called "remembering". And since our memories are pretty awful, it is a gross approximation.

**RubiksMaster** · 03-02-07, 11:16 PM

Déjà Vu isn't time travel. It's just a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.

**timmbuktwo** · 03-02-07, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by ImNotMozartImBetter

Very possible, you just do not know it. If you have had a memory you have time travelled. A memory takes you back to that exact moment and you remember everything that was going on at the time. Therefore, you travelled back through time. This just what happened here, but we did it through Daja vu.

I think it's more you've had a memory than time travelled. You "remember" that moment, you don't go back to being there.

**ImNotMozartImBetter** · 03-03-07, 10:47 AM

When you go back and remember something you go back to the exact time and place. Yes, it does reoccur that just made my point that you went back throught time the memory. I am saying it is possible to do time travel because nothing is impossible. Plus, two people experiences the same Daju vu is heard of.

**redarmy11** · 03-03-07, 11:26 AM

Travelling back mentally is marginally different from travelling back physically.

Travelling back mentally is called remembering. It is possible.

Travelling back physically is called time travel. It is not possible.

If you remain convinced that travelling backwards mentally is a form of time travel, try travelling in the opposite direction and 'remembering' something that you haven't experienced yet. That is also possible. We call that mental illness.

**ImNotMozartImBetter** · 03-03-07, 12:51 PM

And we call you a jackass. If with your brain "remembering" the time you were there is "mental" time travel. When you have Daja Vu is "remembering" something that is going to happen is also "time travel"...because if it hasn't happened yet, but it is going to happen I call that "time travel."

**swivel** · 03-03-07, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by ImNotMozartImBetter

When you go back and remember something you go back to the exact time and place. Yes, it does reoccur that just made my point that you went back throught time the memory. I am saying it is possible to do time travel because nothing is impossible. Plus, two people experiences the same Daju vu is heard of.

If nothing is impossible, then it is possible you are wrong about all of this. And time travels' impossibility is now a possibility.

When you have an either/or situation, like the Earth is either flat or round, both can't be equally possible. Time travel is an either/or situation. In this case, it is impossible.

**timmbuktwo** · 03-03-07, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by ImNotMozartImBetter

When you go back and remember something you go back to the exact time and place. Yes, it does reoccur that just made my point that you went back throught time the memory. I am saying it is possible to do time travel because nothing is impossible. Plus, two people experiences the same Daju vu is heard of.

Well, with 6 billion people around you figure the odds are .......

**ImNotMozartImBetter** · 03-03-07, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by swivel

If nothing is impossible, then it is possible you are wrong about all of this. And time travels' impossibility is now a possibility.

When you have an either/or situation, like the Earth is either flat or round, both can't be equally possible. Time travel is an either/or situation. In this case, it is impossible.

Good point, but nothing is impossible until proven otherwise. It is proven that the Earth is round. It isn't proven that time travel is impossible. Without the proof that time travel isn't possible you have nothing but opinions.

Tim is too smart for his on good.

**timmbuktwo** · 03-03-07, 02:02 PM

Mozart, how about nothing is possible untill proven?

**ImNotMozartImBetter** · 03-03-07, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by timmbuktwo

Mozart, how about nothing is possible untill proven?

Least someone is on top of this....

**timmbuktwo** · 03-03-07, 02:15 PM

now i'm mixed up. is it possible without proof or impossile with proof!

**~~nicholas1M7~~** · 03-03-07, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by ImNotMozartImBetter

Least someone is on top of this....

"nothing is impossible" is disproven everyday. And the statement nothing is impossible is impossible to be true since it is a logical contradiction.

**swivel** · 03-04-07, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by ImNotMozartImBetter

Good point, but nothing is impossible until proven otherwise. It is proven that the Earth is round. It isn't proven that time travel is impossible. Without the proof that time travel isn't possible you have nothing but opinions.

Tim is too smart for his on good.

Maybe it is possible that nothing has ever been proven. Maybe it is possible that proving things is impossible. Maybe it is possible that our universe is the dream of a gnat, so the Earth hasn't been proven round, because it doesn't really exist.

See how dumb things get when you start you epistemology with "Nothing is impossible?" You end up sounding like a bunch of stoned hippies around a camp-fire trying to sound philosophical.

Time travel is impossible. Because time isn't something that exists, which we travel "through", time is just a concept friend. It is a measure of the changes in the state of a system. That is all it is. We don't move from the past, through the present, and into the future, that is an illusion concocted by our memory, perception, and foresight.

We live in a universe which undergoes changes. There needs to be some way to discuss these changes. What do we call it when things change? What do we call the states that are no longer in place? What do we call the current state? What do we call the states that we can tell are about to exist? That is all "time" is. Period. No more pot-smoking fancy-talk.

Time travel is impossible. 100% sure. Not a doubt. Seriously.