After rape memory pill question

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Syzygys, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    This memory pill actually exists and they use it for treating PTSD (war/rape/calamity victims).

    So here is the scenario:

    You were raped. (If you are male you were sodomized with a toilette plunger). Your raper was caught and will stand on trial, and you have to testify against him, but:

    You are are offered to take the memory pill, that willl COMPLETELY erase the memory of the rape. But as a kicker, since the only evidence against him is your word/testimony, you can not testify because well, you won't remember.

    Would you take the pill and forget about rape and also justice, or would you want to keep the memory with you for the rest of your life?
     
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  3. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Why can't we just testify, then take the pill once the trials overwith? I'd do that!
     
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  5. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Women are the most delicate creatures. When was the last time you heard of a guy filing complaints of rape? Any guy that does that should be checked. Women always wear provocative dresses, knowing fully well the possible consequences, and those women that don't are still under threat because of the actions of other women. I think if rape should be outlawed, infidelity should be outlawed too. In infidelity, the perpetrator is indirectly raping the sanctity and wholesomeness of the cocoon called the relationship between him and his wife. But men will never illegalize infidelity; it’s much too inferior for a real punishment. Don’t get me wrong, women cheat too, that’s just totally under the radar. Sometimes an example can be made out of infidels; President Clinton was a good scape goat. However, Clinton had three counts of cheating, he just over did it, and he started making the American Executive system look bad. To me, its impossible to eradicate infidelity, many great people were born out of infidelity (ironic use of grammar and syntax). It seems to me it’s virtually impossible for one woman to forever satisfy one guy, I mean, what’s a guy going to use to arouse himself when the time comes…other than another woman? Which brings us to Viagra, a pill made specifically to stimulate the living hell of of guys? Like guys are not horny enough. Sexual aphrodisiacs or stimulants are created by corporate-government bin bags to make men even go crazier, which even has a higher chance of leading to infidelity. Men will not stop cheating, the complex situation will only double in magnitude; men will keep cheating but much more. All you have to do is make Viagra an OTC drug, and I guarantee you high school boys will be humping their female teachers. So there, the same governmenmt that sanctioned Mr. Clinton is indirectly legalizing infidelity, but governments have never been really good at social studies.
     
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  7. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    A serial rapist has been making the news in Houston. He rapes men at gunpoint. Described as black, about 6ft tall. Targeting Hispanic males 18-25. Men DO get raped and it rarely gets reported because of views like yours, that something is wrong with a man that is a victim of rape. Almost a dozen men have reported rape by the Houston guy. Imagine the real number. It is believed he is targeting Hispanics because they are smaller and less likely to report rape. Cultural reasons and of course some may fear police because of immigration status.
     
  8. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Chatha has just entered my Ignore list. 2 stupidities in 5 mins is just more than I can bear....
     
  9. jessiej920 Shake them dice and roll 'em Valued Senior Member

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    Are you baiting people or are you really this ignorant? Women are delicate because they report rape? Too bad Jeffery Damer didn't get a hold of you...I'd like to see how indelicate you would be after he was done with you.
     
  10. jessiej920 Shake them dice and roll 'em Valued Senior Member

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    seriously
     
  11. q0101 Registered Senior Member

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    I heard about the pill that you are talking about. The drug (Propanonol) doesn’t actually erase the person’s memory. It takes away the stressful chemical reaction that occurs in a person’s body when they’re thinking about the event. The person would remember the details of the rape, but they would not experience any fear or anxeity when they remembered the details of the event.

    An article about the subject.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0729_050729_PTSDpill.html
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    Maybe it is time you stopped rubbing those two stones together by the fire and left the dark ages behind? Hmmm?

    Men are raped and many do report it. The majority however do not because they are embarrassed and ashamed of what has happened to them. The same with many women who never report being raped. And why do so many rape victims feel that there is somehow something wrong with them? Because there are still people like you roaming the streets.

    A rape is a horrendous and violent crime and all victims who have had to undergo the horror of a rape should be encouraged to report it, regardless of their sex.

    Your view of women and men has shown you to be a misogynist and also a hateful individual. You have some serious issues that you need professional help with. Maybe instead of posting on here, your time would be better spent getting the help you obviously desperately need.
     
  13. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
  14. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, police statistics prove me to be right. Most victims of rape reports are women. Yes, women are delicate because they do wear provocative cloths, not all of them, but just enough to make men think women are either teasing or deserve a little "tender attention".

    jessiej920,
    I don't understand what your problem is. What's wrong with being delicate? Aren'ty women delicate? You guys are at it again, one minute its "we are made of sugar and spice", next minute its "women are equal to men".

    Shut the hell up. First of all, there is no fucking way I am reporting a woman raping me. I am way too much of a man for that. I might be in the stone age, but at least I am not a modern water-laden puff fairy. Modernism is eating away the masculinity of some men, not me, lets get that straight. How will you even feel reporting such thing "excuse me sir, a gang of ladies managed to rape me and I feel violated". First of all, before a gang of ladies can rape me, it will take a lot of struggle, an almost impossible event. Now, a gang of men raping me is another case, I will probably take justice into my own hands before I file a report. If women are raping you, relax, think of it as consolidation for a thousand years of oppression. And finaly, when it comes to men, if you manage to get it up, it technicaly is not rape.
     
  15. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Visit Houston sometime and find out what it's like before you stand on victim's shoulders to denounce people that have been through rape. Only the most insecure man would feel the need to overexpress how 'manly' he wishes he was.

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    (Chatha must be a 12 year old.)
     
  16. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    I've never heard of this drug, but the only way I can imagine it working is that it prevents short term memory from potentiating into long term memory. This means there is a limited span of time in which the drug will have any effect. By the time any trial takes place, the memory will be set for life.
     
  17. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Thats it. There are three types of people on sciforums; mind readers, immature people with no frame of reality, and just plain stupid people. Tell me, how have I denounced rape victims? And what makes you think I have a need to over emphasize my manliness, other than the fact that I was merely expressing myself?
     
  18. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    100% of the people raped in men's prisons... are men. It's estimated that male-on-male rape in prison outnumbers male-on-female rape outside.

    You, Sir, are a dick. Prison beckons you. As they're breaking you in with the wrong end of a toothbrush be sure to point out through the tears that you 'aren't dressed provocatively'.
     
  19. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    a pill to remove memories..... hard to believe.

    -MT
     
  20. jessiej920 Shake them dice and roll 'em Valued Senior Member

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    "Women are delicate because they wear provocative clothes..." Hmmmm...You must be one of those stupid people that haunt Sci Forums that is out of touch with reality. Wait...you could be that immature guy too. You are pretty much saying that any woman who gets raped is asking for it and any man who reports rape is a wimp...right. Well how do you classify little children? Was the nice little 7 year old wearing "provocative clothing" when she got raped by the big mean man? Was she asking for a little "tender attention"? I certainly hope that if your wife/girlfriend/daughter/sister ever gets raped you don't tell them they deserved it...though from the way you went about "expressing yourself" that seems like a likely response for you. What is my problem? You are an ignorant idiot. That's my problem. Forgive me for expressing MYSELF.
     
  21. Bells Staff Member

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    Misogynist.

    You really hate women so much that you blame them for something that is completely out of their control? Is that your excuse?

    Do you have issues with women daring to point out your inadequacies as a human being?

    Oh and don't tell me to shut up. This is the internet. Your telling me to 'shut up' is not only pathetic but also idiotic.

    LOL!

    Whoa, we have a man here ladies and gentlemen! How about a woman who rapes you, falls pregnant and then takes you to court for all that you might be worth? How about a woman who rapes you and passes on an STD or HIV, ruining your chances for life? How about a woman who rapes you, knocks you out and then castrates you?

    But hey... you da man right? Please. A real man recognises a rape and knows what a rape is. A real man also would not make such comments about women's clothing in regards to rape.

    Oh you mean you just failed to evolve with the rest of humanity? Instead you prefer to think that you are some kind of neanderthal who views women as objects and men as men who are never raped because they cannot be raped? Right. Sure. What ever you say. You just move back into that little cave of yours and sit by the fire and hope like hell 'Ugg' walks by with her knuckles dragging on the ground so you can club her over the head.

    Because if this is your attitude towards women and men, I doubt you will find a suitable mate anytime soon.

    It is obvious you do not even know what the definition of rape is. Rape is sex without consent. Now imagine you are with a woman and she starts pushing herself onto you. You aren't interested and try to tell her no. You're a bit drunk and she starts plying you with alcohol. You keep saying no and she just keeps at you. Finally she takes you home, you are too drunk to know what the hell you are doing. She then strips you naked and rapes you. If you are lucky you get to walk away intact. If you are unlucky she can either 1) get pregnant and then claim more than half of your income.. 2) she gives you HIV or another nasty STD.. or 3) she castrates you as you sleep and you wake up in shock to find your nuts and penis in a jar on the bedside table.

    Now imagine if she gets pregnant. She takes you to court. Would you claim the sex was non-consentual? Or would you be a real "man" and simply fork out all your money to pay for the child? What about if she passes on an STD. You then go on and have sex with other women infecting them. Imagine if its AIDS. They then take you to court and you then think back and realised the woman who RAPED you gave you HIV. You wouldn't want to press charges against her? Ah but you're a "man" right? And if she castrates you after raping you? Well no, you'll just put a band-aid where your penis used to be and pretend it never happened. Please. Your words have only shown you to be nothing but a wuss. Only a coward says what you have said Chap.

    Again, you have shown yourself to be a weak individual who does not even know what constitutes a rape. You also know nothing about male physiology.
     
  22. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Correct. At least that's how it was explained on Boston legal.

    Also people, let's try not to change the scenario, I made it up, you have to play by the rules. You don't like the scenario, don't answer the question...
     
  23. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Rape of any kinda is a crime. In fact even talking about it is a crime now, you will all be arrested and thrown into prison for discussion of it! Oh wait, lol Hey so this memory pill, Bells + others if I could be given a pill that made me not be lonely + want a gf I'd gladly take it, I'm so alone

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