Darwinism Benefits Scientific Method?

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  1. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    It has been said that to not treat Darwinian evolution as writ would lead to a retardation of scientific progress because many new discoveries are supposedly predicated upon Darwinian theory.

    I challenged some chatters at the New York Times message board to say what scientific discoveries were derived from Darwinian theory, and all they could come up with is "traffic flow solutions" and "airplane wing designs," so obviously, Darwinian theory really has no impact on scientific progress, and in fact, actually impedes it has people are preoccupied with that nonsensical notion which has no bearing on how the world works.
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The existence of a genetic code was predicted by Darwin (and the Augustinian priest Gregor Mendel), although he could not know the actual form. This led to the discovery of DNA, and the mapping of the human genome.
     
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    Nothing to do with Darwinian evolution, just predicting genetic characteristics on a micro scale was not unique to Darwinists.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The idea that complexity can emerge without a complex cause is an important idea in science.
     
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    Yeh, but that's humans adding complexity, big difference.
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Over your head as usual.
     
  10. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Nice "rebuttal."
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I was not referring to complexity created by humans.
     
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    Then who created the complexity?

    Do amoebas actually morph into elephants?
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The word "who" implies a necessarily complex entity, which is the opposite of the principle I was suggesting- the preservation of complexity as an impersonal passive process.
     
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    You weren't talking about the preservation of complexity, you were talking about added complexity.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing necessary for complexity to accumulate is for a slightly more complex variation on a theme to be preserved in an iterative process.
     
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    Where does it supposedly say that information theory is derived from Darwinian theory?
     
  18. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    It doesn't, but information theory is sometimes misunderstood by creationists.
     
  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The study of emerging bacterial and viral resistance to treatment is predicated on an understanding of evolution.
     
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    Not upon Darwinian evolution, a bacteria is still just that, and a virus is still just that.
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    A bacteria is a bacteria, but how to they adapt and become resistant to anti-bacterial agents? They aren't that smart.
     
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    Nothing to do with Darwinism, so we're still stuck on "traffic flow solutions" and "airplane wing designs."
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The adaptibility of bacteria depends on the principle of evolution, ie. variation and natural selection. Most modern discoveries in biology depend on an understanding of evolution. I think what those guys were referring to were evolutionary algorithms.
     
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