The Us Federal Government.

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  1. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    JAMES TRAFICANT..... HAD BALLS.

    AND NOW HES LOCKED UP IN JAIL....

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    The Bankruptcy of The United States
    United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303


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    Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

    "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

    It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

    The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

    Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

    It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

    Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

    Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

    There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

    Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

    The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]

    The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

    Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

    Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

    "Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

    In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

    Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

    This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

    Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

    Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

    We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

    America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."



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    Image: United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303
    FROM Citizens for Better Government
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  3. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    this was posted before, if i remember correctly.
     
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  5. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    and.... still no one seems concerned by it.

    to much flouride i suppose.

    -MT
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Just too damned long, too complex, too indepth for a place like sciforums. Simple threads, topics always do best here because most people ain't got the time to study the issue, ponder it adequately, then respond with any degree of intelligence. Not that a lack of intelligence has ever stopped anyone before, but...?

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    Not if you were to summarize it in, say, less than two sentences.....?

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  8. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Baron Max:

    The gist of it:

    US bankrupt (due to debt). Gold and silver > fiat currency.
     
  9. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    NO.... the gist... is... you have lost all your constitutional rights...

    they have been replaced with priviledges and benefits.
    both of which... can be taken away...
    like your freedom.
    like your property.

    you dont own your land... you rent it, even after you buy it.


    our federal government.... is owned by foreign investors.

    your birth certificate.... makes you a registared capital asset to those who own our nation.


    we have been in a state of emergency since `1933.... meaning that the constitution is no longer the rule book for the fed.

    during an emergency... (our over 70 emergency), the fed.... can literally do anything it wants to... and its not illegal, or un-constitutional, because of the state of emergency, that no president chooses to end.

    the constitution NO LONGER APPLYS.

    your freedom was sold off long ago...

    thats the gist.

    -MT
     
  10. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Mosheh Thezion:

    There is no application of such. Moreover, the congress is not so corrupt as to allow it.
     
  11. The Devil Inside Banned Banned

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    i have included this whole text as a part of a blog i once kept, actually.
     
  12. phoenix2634 Registered Senior Member

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    I'm curious. How is the federal government owned by foreign investors?


    And why isn't this in the business and economics subforum?

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  13. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    One man's opinion.

    And not his only one.

    I, too, have several opinions.

    A great many of them I value more highly than Traficant, Jr's.
     
  14. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    are you people blind?

    yes... congress... they all know about it. and they all say nothing.

    james traficant had the balls to say so.... and hes in jail now.


    no one knows who owns the fed.

    it is a private corporation... it is owned.

    it runs our country.... it issues the money with which alll things are bought.

    all things, in the usa are owned by the fed... sijnce it is in their power to take anything they want... whenever they want..

    AND THE CONSTITUTION CANT STOP THEM.

    BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.

    GET IT.

    -MT
     
  15. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Dude. Unwad those panties.
    The People own the Fed.
    Public school educated, right?
    BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION CREATED THEM AND LEFT IT TO THE PEOPLE TO STOP THEM BY CONSTITUTIONALLY VOTING THE BASTIDS OUT.

    Wait. The Constitution can stop them!

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    So, vote the Bastids out -- you and as many voters as you can convince that the Bastids need to be voted out.
    Get it done, cause whining alone ain't up to the challenge.

    The funny thing about lecturers is that they're not all paid the same.

    There's an important message in that free market revelation. Get it?
     
  16. phoenix2634 Registered Senior Member

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    I know who owns the Fed.

    Since citizens of the United States votes for their US representatives and US senators (congress), and congress established the Fed and gave the Fed a mandate to serve the public...the people own the fed.

    Power to the people! Woohoo!
     
  17. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    the arguement against ending the state of emergency..... by those with half a brain... are that.... we would loose all the so called benefits.
    and those benefits..... benefit alot of people.. with alot of dollars.

    and since the government is not opennly evil or anything, everyone such as yourselves says.... 'hea.. whats the problem... seems to be working'
    and then you laugh and its just a joke.

    but in reality... you have given it all up... all real freedom, in return for some social security and medicare.

    what you have lost.... is the bill of rights... literally.

    alot of people, thinks thats ok... which one are you?

    -MT
     
  18. phoenix2634 Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, still curious...must be all that flouride.

    What state of emergency?
     
  19. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    read the first two paragraphs of the first post.

    it happened, due to the crash.... a crash caused by the banks.

    they declared a state of emergency, which allowed the fed to put the constitution aside to do what it needs to do.

    but..... they never ended the state of emergency.

    they instead gave us a NEW DEAL..... that ripped us all off.


    the nation accepted it.... because of the depression... a depression caused by the banks..... which ultimately gave them total ownership over all americans......


    if the president, was to end the state of emergency... then... all of a sudden, most of the things the fed does today becomes illegal....

    like the FBI..... an unconstitutional organization.



    no body seems to care.... and it is because you dont know what youve lost.

    you dont get it... and so you dont care.

    i suggest, you begin to care.

    -MT
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    So we are owned. I would still rather have an American Dollar than a Mexican Peso. They are banking on our future... Correct?
     
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  22. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

    It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?
     
  23. phoenix2634 Registered Senior Member

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    Mosheh Thezion,

    Oh, that state of emergency.

    Still curious... Why exactly didn't US Code Title 50, subchapter 34, sec. 1601 end the state of emergency on September 14, 1978? You know, the section of US Code that terminated all existing declared national emergencies.

    I'm a guessing it did, and frankly that's why no one cares.
    Well, that and people like the Federal Reserve Bank, understands that the Federal Reserve Bank doesn't own their property, and that ending the gold standard wasn't and isn't the end of the world. Frankly I don't care if the currency I recieve is gold, brick, clam shells, or fiat money, as long as it is accepted to pay off any debt that I incur.

    Okay, I guess I care just a little.

    So for amusement, why is the FBI unconstitutional?
     

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