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Thread: When Will We be Able To Manufacture Wormholes?

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    When Will We be Able To Manufacture Wormholes?

    Simple question.

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    You mean before we go extinct from global warming effects?

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    Plutarch (Mickey's Dog)
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    We won't ever go extinct from global warming. We survived an ice age as cavemen. WE can survive a few degrees of warming up over centuries as Homo sapiens sapiens.

    Anyway.........

    Wormholes haven't even been proven to exist.

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    Give us 3 years.




    or more.

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    We will never be able to create a SciFi wormhole. At best a particle accelerator might create some microscopic wormhole phenomena lasting a few milliseconds (seconds at best).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_James View Post
    We won't ever go extinct from global warming. We survived an ice age as cavemen. WE can survive a few degrees of warming up over centuries as Homo sapiens sapiens.

    Anyway.........

    Wormholes haven't even been proven to exist.
    Global warming isn't an ice age. Maybe a miracle will occur and we won't go extinct, but at the very least tens of millions are about to die due to those pesky "few" degrees. What did you think was going to happen when the ice on Greenland and Antartica melts?

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    I see polar bears have been added to the endangered list :

    http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2108212.ece

    In a landmark decision, the Bush administration has concluded that global warming is endangering the existence of the polar bear Ð an admission that could force the US government to act to curb the emission of greenhouse gases.

    In a sharp reversal from its previous position, the Department of the Interior (DOI) has decided one of nature's most iconic creatures should be listed as "threatened" under the Endangered Species Act (ESA) because "the polar bears' habitat may literally be melting".

    The decision potentially has huge implications that go beyond the survival of the polar bear: the ESA of 1973 not only requires the government to come up with a recovery plan for the bears but also prevents it from "enacting, funding, or authorising [actions which] adversely modify the animal's critical habitats".

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    Tens of millions are going to die? Hardly. They will move in about 2 feet back from the edge of the water.

    Anyway, sea levels are not expected to rise more than a few inches, at most, in the next few century. It is not a problem we have to be concerned about as a doomsday scenario.

    This is not "The Day After Tomorrow".

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    It's something like 8-10 degrees by 2100.


    I think we will be able to handle it.

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    No idea if it is even possible. The theory says we'd need some kind of "exotic matter" to keep a wormhole open, although I'm not sure if that is an absolute requirement for all wormholes, now that I think about it.

    Conservatively, I'd say not for at least 100 years.

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    Hands up who'd want to live in a world without polar bears.

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    I think that wormholes are possible, and because of that possibility, they will eventually be harnessed. Negative pressure has already been demonstrated (Casimir effect), and the solutions for a traversable wormhole have been documented (though they DO assert the existance of 'exotic matter')

    I doubt wormholes will create FTL-paradox problems; Matt Visser gives a pretty good solution to the wormhole paradoxes.

    (btw, WHY IS EVERYONE BABBLING ABOUT POLAR BEARS????)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_James View Post
    Tens of millions are going to die? Hardly. They will move in about 2 feet back from the edge of the water.

    Anyway, sea levels are not expected to rise more than a few inches, at most, in the next few century. It is not a problem we have to be concerned about as a doomsday scenario.

    This is not "The Day After Tomorrow".
    BS Try an almost 40 foot increase in water level in a high tide one future year. Each of the two will contribute to almost 20 feet in depth.
    Last edited by Trilairian; 12-28-06 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_James View Post
    Tens of millions are going to die? Hardly. They will move in about 2 feet back from the edge of the water.

    Anyway, sea levels are not expected to rise more than a few inches, at most, in the next few century. It is not a problem we have to be concerned about as a doomsday scenario.

    This is not "The Day After Tomorrow".
    A lively account of how bad it might actually be: http://www.exitmundi.nl/Runaway_greenhouse.htm

    (not that this has anything to do with wormholes)

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    Considering the fact that the Earth has spent most of its existence without permanent ice, with significantly higher carbon dioxide, and radically higher temperatures the world over...and yeah, I am not convinced that this is going to be anything but a footnote in Earth's geological history.

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    This Is Not The Polar Bear Area. What Is This Thread? I Have Forgotten.

    Oh yes, I remember now , it is the wormhole thread.

    My personal opinion is that Einstein Relativity is amiss in predicting wormholes and therefore they will never be artifacts.
    Last edited by CANGAS; 12-28-06 at 09:43 PM. Reason: REMEMBERED TOPIC

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    Yes, I would have to agree with you on that one. This is where Relativity was wrong (one of only a few places).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_James View Post
    Yes, I would have to agree with you on that one. This is where Relativity was wrong (one of only a few places).
    Fortunately for relativity, experiment has proven both of you wrong. Relativity has been thoroughly demonstrated as the way nature really works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trilairian View Post
    Fortunately for relativity, experiment has proven both of you wrong. Relativity has been thoroughly demonstrated as the way nature really works.

    Very well, since I must have been distracted at the time, give us specific reference for the relativity experiment that proved the existence of wormholes.

    Thanks in advance. I'm really looking forward to reading the paper on it.

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    Fox audience: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh.

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