US Destined for Military take over?

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  1. Thomas "God is a Dick"- Me Registered Senior Member

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    US Army Announces Readiness for Total Military Takeover of America
    October 21, 2006
    By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
    Russian Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that final steps towards a full Military Dictatorship of the United States have been taken with the US Army announcing USARNORTH has now reached ' full operational capacity' and is now ready to:
    " Execute homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities missions ", and " Conduct the Army-to-Army portion of the theater cooperation mission with Canada and Mexico ".
    According to these reports, the first of the USANORTH plans for the total military takeover of the United States, from its few remaining civilian overseers, rest with a new series of draconian laws recently enacted by their top Military Leaders and which, among other things, suspends the right of habeas corpus for Americans, and which the American Military Leaders have ordered their courts to disallow, and as we can read as reported by the Washington Post News Service in their article titled " Court Told It Lacks Power in Detainee Cases ", and which says:
    "Moving quickly to implement the bill signed by President Bush this week that authorizes military trials of enemy combatants, the administration has formally notified the U.S. District Court here that it no longer has jurisdiction to consider hundreds of habeas corpus petitions filed by inmates at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba.
    Beyond those already imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay or elsewhere, the law applies to all non-U.S. citizens, including permanent U.S. residents. Habeas corpus, a Latin term meaning "you have the body," is one of the oldest principles of English and American law. It requires the government to show a legal basis for holding a prisoner."
    Not being fully explained to the American people, however, are that these new draconian laws do in fact have a direct impact upon each of them, and as explained by an American dissident group called The Future of Freedom Foundation, and which in their article titled " Jose Padilla and the Military Commissions Act ", states:
    "Anyone who hoped that U.S. military detention of Americans accused of terrorism expired with the transfer of American citizen Jose Padilla from military custody to Justice Department custody have seen their hopes dashed by the Military Commissions Act that the president signed into law yesterday. Although the act limits to foreign citizens the use of military tribunals and the denial of habeas corpus, any person, including American citizens, can still be labeled and treated as an "unlawful enemy combatant" in the war on terrorism.
    What does that mean for the American people? It means the same thing it did for Jose Padilla. You'll recall that Padilla was arrested in Chicago for terrorism and transferred to military custody, where, according to Padilla, he was tortured and involuntarily injected with drugs.
    The government's position is that since the entire world is a battlefield in which the war on terrorism is being waged, U.S. officials now have the power to arrest any American suspected of terrorism, place him in military custody, and subject him to the same "unlawful enemy combatant" treatment that Padilla received, until the war on terrorism has finally been won, no matter how long that takes."
    More ominously for the American people is their future culpability in these actions being done in their name by their Military Leaders, and as articulated by one of the United States most celebrated reporters, Helen Thomas, and who has said about these horrific new laws:
    "President Bush on Tuesday signed the law that legalizes the administration's shameful treatment of detainees suspected of terrorism. The same measure also empowers the president to define torture. It's a sad legacy for America and its already-tarnished world image.
    The far-reaching legislation gives Bush the right to decide what constitutes torture. The president has often said "we do not torture," despite evidence to the contrary - and photographs from the infamous Abu Ghraib prison as well. The president also can set guidelines for interrogation of prisoners. White House spokesman Tony Snow declined to say whether "waterboarding" - in which detainees are made to feel they are drowning - would be permissible.
    Under the new law, the president also has extraordinary powers to designate who is an illegal enemy combatant, which potentially subjects U.S. citizens and foreigners to indefinite detention with no power to appeal. Bush is also allowed to interpret the Geneva Conventions on Humane Treatment of Prisoners of War.
    One of the reasons Bush sought a green light from the lawmakers is "to have Congress stand with him in the dock," Malinowski added. The military commissions act is law. And all Americans will be tainted by it."
    Helen Thomas' reference to American Military Leaders standing in the 'dock', which means standing trial for War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity, rings ever truer with the decision of the International Committee of the Red Cross issuing only its second ever in history "concern" regarding the actions of a warring Nation [ the first "concern" issued by the ICRC was in 1944 over the Nazi German treatment of concentration camp detainees], and which we can read as reported by the SwissInfo News Service in their article titled " ICRC "concerned" over US anti-terrorism law", and which says:
    "The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) expressed concern on Thursday at the United States' tough new anti-terrorism law. The president of Swiss-run humanitarian body, Jakob Kellenberger, said that there were questions over its compliance with the Geneva Conventions on the conduct of war."
    To the second part of the USANORTH plan for the unsuspecting American people, Conduct the Army-to-Army portion of the theater cooperation mission with Canada and Mexico", we can read from the Council on Foreign Relations report that first outlined the merger of the independent Nations of the United States, Canada and Mexico into a North American Union, and which says:
    "Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in association with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.
    North America is vulnerable on several fronts: the region faces terrorist and criminal security threats, increased economic competition from abroad, and uneven economic development at home. In response to these challenges, a trinational, Independent Task Force on the Future of North America has developed a roadmap to promote North American security and advance the well-being of citizens of all three countries.
    When the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States met in Texas recently they underscored the deep ties and shared principles of the three countries. The Council-sponsored Task Force applauds the announced "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America," but proposes a more ambitious vision of a new community by 2010 and specific recommendations on how to achieve it."
    Also not being understood by the American people are how their young children are currently being trained to be administrators of this North American Union, and as we can read as reported by the World Net Daily News Service in their article titled " N[orth] American students trained for 'merger' , and which says:
    "In another example of the way the three nations of North America are being drawn into a federation, or "merger," students from 10 universities in the U.S., Mexico and Canada are participating annually in a simulated "model Parliament."
    Under the sponsorship of the Canadian based North American Forum on Integration, students met in the Mexican Senate for five days in May in an event dubbed "Triumvirate," with organizers declaring "A North American Parliament is born." A similar event took place in the Canadian Senate in 2005.
    The intentions of organizers are clear. "The creation of a North American parliament, such as the one being simulated by these young people, should be considered," explained Raymond Chretien, the president of the Triumvirate and the former Canadian ambassador to both Mexico and the U.S. Participants discuss draft bills on trade corridors, immigration, provisions of the North American Free Trade Agreement and produce a daily newspaper called "The TrilatHerald."
    To those dwindling numbers of Americans aware of the total destruction of their Nation, and way of life, ever harsher measures to destroy all dissent were outlined to them this past week by their Military Leaders, and as we can read as reported by these various sources:
    As reported by the Reuters News Service in their October 17th article titled " Web could be terror training camp: Chertoff", and which says, "Disaffected people living in the United States may develop radical ideologies and potentially violent skills over the Internet and that could present the next major U.S. security threat, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said on Monday. "We now have a capability of someone to radicalize themselves over the Internet," Chertoff said on the sidelines of a meeting of International Association of the Chiefs of Police."
    As reported by the CNET News Service in their October 17th article titled " FBI director wants ISPs to track users", and which says, "FBI Director Robert Mueller on Tuesday called on Internet service providers to record their customers' online activities, a move that anticipates a fierce debate over privacy and law enforcement in Washington next year."
    As reported by an American dissident writer, Chris Floyd, in his October 17th report titled " Sentimental Education: Academia Signs Up for Tracking Down Dissent", and which says, "Why is the United States government spending millions of dollars to track down critics of George W. Bush in the press? And why have major American universities agreed to put this technology of tyranny into the state's hands?
    The Bush administration already has spyware devouring reams of private information in every direction. It is now paying top universities millions of dollars to refine this data into actionable intelligence - including the automated discernment and tracking of dissent against administration policies and criticism of the president. Bush has openly declared that he has no intention of obeying privacy laws - or any other laws safeguarding the Constitutional rights of American citizens - if he doesn't want to."
    More interesting, perhaps, than the simultaneous flooding of the American media this past week with 'frightening ' reports on the 'dangers' of the Internet by the US Military Leaders, was the sensationalist reporting revolving around an American man posting on the Internet a hoax threat, and which has resulted in his arrest, and as we can read as reported by the KWTX News Service in their article titled " Store Clerk Arrested In Stadium Threat Hoax ", and which says:
    "A Wisconsin grocery store clerk is under arrest on charges he's behind the hoax that claimed there would be dirty bomb attacks during this weekend's NFL games. Jake Brahm surrendered to federal authorities Friday morning, and was due in a Milwaukee court later in the day. The US Attorney in Newark, N.J., says Brahm is charged in a sealed criminal complaint."
    Russian Intelligence reports on this American 'hoax incident', in our opinion, have correctly stated that these events are a false flag operation intended to bring the ever growing American dissident community to heel by ' reminding' them that even a 20-year-old store clerk is not beyond their reach. We can rightly imagine the fear these events have caused among the American dissidents as what they are experiencing now we have lived with our entire lives.
    To the greater of these issues, though, remains the fact that the total destruction of America today has long been planned, and is even now in its final stages. To the many warning signs put before these American people there have also been many, and, perhaps, none more chilling then a simple letter sent from a former US Congressman, Bill Hefner, to a constituent of his in North Carolina written in 1997, and which says:
    "Enclosed is the information you requested pertaining to the Army's policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor program and civilian prison camps on Army installations.
    This information has not yet been published (it is currently at the printers), however, it has been funded, staffed, and does reflect current Army policy. I hope you find this information useful."
    As the storm clouds continue to gather over these once great American people, one cannot wonder at their continued insistence to not look up, see what is coming, and prepare.
    © October 21, 2006 EU and US all rights reserved.
    [Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors to protect their safety.]
     
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  5. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    So it hasnt happened yet?
     
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    lolz...what like FSB agency?
     
  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    too late.
     
  9. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Just so y'all know, in 1962 the US military had plans to take over the entire government and the nation in response to any "internal" takeover by "enemy operatives". These plans, ladies and gentlemen, are mostly for prevention of a takeover by hostile elements, not as a military coup.

    Baron Max
     
  10. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    I smell bullshit.
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    From me or from the main post or from...?

    Baron Max
     
  12. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Now that the Dem's have been given legislative control, the US is destined to be taken over by Monty Python's Flying Circus.

    The Dem's have to be very concerned that very few of them are in the military.

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    They should be even more concerned that they can be easily bested by Monty Python's Flying Circus.
     
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    You will never get US citizens in our all volunteer military to "take-Over" *whatever the hell that means??* the USA.

    It is not going to happen.
     
  14. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Such a mobilization is at least as much mental as logistical. Ask Lincoln. The most intricate plans that may be in place for a police state will collapse along with the rest of government institutions, should it ever come to that. In any hypothetical collapse, it is more likely that people will fight for the survival of their families and not survival of the (failed) State.

    That said, any national security organizations do make contingency plans for events large and small, likely and unlikely. So what does this issue matter? It seems more intelligent to analyze and influence current events before such a Fall may occur. After a precipitous collapse of American society, none of these plans would matter in the least. Remember, we are discussing powers that would like to sort out Iraq: Restore order; restore oil exports. They were given a free pass to try it.

    Ain't skeered. Ask questions first, shoot later.
     
  15. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Too bad. - I was expecting them to change some things. You are saying the status quo will remain

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  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Could you just post a link instead of all that text?
     
  17. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Good point,

    We couldn't militarily take over Iraq and you think we could do it in the USA? 10xs the size with no appetite for being told what to do by dictators.

    Would never ever happen,
    Michael
     
  18. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Baron Max:

    Opening post's alarmism.
     
  19. broadandbeaver 'Now I am become Death Registered Senior Member

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    All you'd have to do is have an internal 9/11 type situation. Fake some type or terrorist take over of the government. It was done with the WMDs. We went to war over words... No proof prior. The cart before the horse.
     
  20. radicand Registered Senior Member

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    Then again, on the flip side you have to do is deny their is an enemy and that that enemy does not pose a threat; then, watch yourself as you enabled an outsider to overtake the country.

    The thing about denial is that your mind is totally shut to any other possibilities.

    I can go along with leftist who are concerned about freedoms being infringed, and frankly someone has to make sure that any act approved or made by a sitting president during a time of war, does not exceed its need.

    At the same, I am not going to deny that there is an enemy. Whether you like it or not, that enemy did have ties with Hussein's Iraq. How much involvement could be debated, but the bottom line decisions were made and passed by both sides. The issue now is not bickering.

    The issue instead is national security and a continuation of the American freedom.

    Whether you like it or not everytime you speak out against America, you are enabling the enemy of America (I am speaking in terms of war).

    History lessons are not easily accepted and learned from, if we do not start heeding to them we are going to crumble as a nation.

    Remember some enemies only respond positively to force against them.

    Is that civilized? No, but is it reality? Yes!!

    Part of protecting a country involves willingness to fight for it!!

    Save your conspiracy theories for another time!!!!!
     
  21. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Ha! The US military couldn't take over Delaware, where is all this confidence coming from about the US military? We got our asses handed to us in Vietnam, we are incapable of securing a single city in Iraq or Afghanistan, we were even terrified of a Somali dictator!

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    Please. The US military couldn't defeat a high school band, let alone take the redneck filled USA.
     
  22. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    A matchless public display of ignorance.

    A Custer F*ck, in so many ways.

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  23. Genji Registered Senior Member

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    Love and Manhugs to you too Master G!!


    ps
    I do too have matches! I just prefer lighters
     

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