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    The feminine side effects of soy... hilarious..

    A friend of mine came across this in a blog and linked me the site. I must admit it was quite an eye opener. And then a tear jerker when I just about bawled from laughter.

    I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens.

    Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your "female side," physically and mentally.
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    Hmmm..

    I've heard some men referring to soy products and foods as being 'girly' foods, like quiche, but this guy takes it to a whole different level.

    In fetal development, the default is being female.
    It's now a default to be female?

    It gets worse..

    Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products.
    *Snort*

    That's right all you small doodled men out there. You can now blame the soy products you may have consumed, or that your mother might have consumed while pregnant with you for your small weiner. And if you're gay, start drawing up that lawsuit!

    The article gets worse as it goes on and frankly more ridiculous.

    I shall leave you with the last line. It sums up this hilariously stupid article quite nicely.

    P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's perfectly safe because it's fermented, which changes its molecular structure. Miso, natto and tempeh are also OK, but avoid tofu.
    LOL!

    Yeah. That's right! Avoid all that hippy, gay, girly foods such as tofu. It'll make you gay and give you a small willy!

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    Sorry to rain on your parade, but its not all science fiction.

    Reports of increased incidences of male reproductive abnormalities and falling sperm counts have prompted interest into the nature of these threats to global fertility. Xenoestrogens have been flagged as major culprits but to date, little is known about the effects of dietary phytoestrogens on male reproductive health. These non-steroidal oestrogens of plant origin are potent endocrine disruptors that modulate normal physiological functions. Phytoestrogens have become a major component in the typical Western fast food diet over the last few decades. Soy formula milk is another common source of phytoestrogens, now used increasingly as an alternative to breast or cow's milk for infants with allergies. This use is of particular concern since the most vulnerable periods for oestrogenic insult are thought to be the pre- and neonatal periods when irreversible damage can be inflicted on the developing germinal epithelium. Studies into the safety of phytoestrogens are urgently needed either to allay fears or increase awareness of the effects of our modern diet on future fertility.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

    i.e. there is no definitive evidence, but there are indications that there may be effects of excess consumption of soy estrogens on male fertility, especially during the developmental period.

    Soy infant formula contains high levels of the isoflavones, genistein and daidzein, which are commonly referred to as phytoestrogens. These are non-steroidal chemicals with structural similarities to estrogen. Infants consuming soy formula have high levels of circulating isoflavones. These are an order of magnitude greater than the levels of isoflavones which have been shown to produce physiological effects in adult women consuming a high soy diet. There is conflicting evidence about the risks and benefits of soy phytoestrogens, with research presenting a contradictory picture. Some reviewers suggest that early exposure to soy may prevent cancer and heart disease. However, there is very little research on the effects of consumption of soy phytoestrogens by human neonates. Against this generally positive view there is an increasing number of recent reports that suggest that in experimental animals, phytoestrogens have adverse effects with respect to carcinogenesis, reproductive function, immune function, and thyroid disease. Despite the absence of adequate scientific research that quantifies the level of risk to infants, most would argue for a precautionary approach to be taken in situations where there are potential developmental effects from the consumption of pharmacologically active compounds in infancy and childhood.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=12919490

    More research is needed before any definite conclusions can be drawn.

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    Plutarch (Mickey's Dog)
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    I am extremely glad I rarely eat soy.

    I like my ding-a-ling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_James View Post
    I am extremely glad I rarely eat soy.

    I like my ding-a-ling.
    Don't you know Japanese women feed their men excess tofu when they want to decrease their virility?

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    Plutarch (Mickey's Dog)
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    Thank God I am not Japanese, then.

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    I was raised on red meat of animals my father slew.

    That explains why bitches bleed.

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    From what I've read on the matter, the exposure must be extreme or acute and ongoing. Now I am not sure exactly how much one must consume to result in a possible effect, but I'd imagine eating tofu every once in a while shouldn't cause that much damage.

    even if humans are exposed during adulthood to oestrogenic compounds (phytoestrogens), it does not necessarily follow that the exposure will have a biological consequence. The exposure must be of sufficient duration and/or magnitude that it activates the homeostatic systems (see Figures 9.2 and 9.3). In theory, the hormonal systems should re-adjust. However, potential health consequences are conceivable if exposure to the phytoestrogen is of such magnitude and/or duration that it ‘swamps’ the system or results in ‘side-effects’ because of the homeostatic adjustments.
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    Scare tactics, especially in light of one of Rutz's comments about homosexuals being deviants, tend to give a slightly more devious insight into his article.

    Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always deviant.
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    I don't know about you Sam, but this article reeks of trying to scare the crap out of people into how to supposedly avoid having a gay child.

    In regards to the possible problems associated with soy products, yes it needs to be done. Soya formula is an alternative given to many women who's babies are lactose intolerant and any danger needs to be investigated thoroughly. From what I have heard, the research on rodents and some primates indicate that maternal consumption can result in smaller testes and fertility problems, but again, human tests have yet to be performed which prove that this can also occur in humans. However before such research proves concisely, I doubt telling people that soya products can result in a homosexual child is helpful or even warranted.

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    The homosexual bit is entirely unsupported.

    And yes, I'm talking about infant soy formulas which lead to chronic consumption, not regular consumption of small amounts of soy.

    Asians for example consume an average of about 10 gms or 2 tsps per day of soy, which apparently has negligible effects on their fertility, if population figures are anything to go by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samcdkey View Post
    Asians for example consume an average of about 10 gms or 2 tsps per day of soy, which apparently has negligible effects on their fertility, if population figures are anything to go by.
    ...oh so thats why asian guys got such small....wow

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    What about homosexual men with large penises? Soy seems a little schizophrenic.

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    I read a New Scientist article (albeit years ago) about how young negro females hit pubescence early due to the presence of estrogen in their shampoos for nappy hair.

    Of course, this was all speculation, and it could have been that the dark race hit puberty earlier when they had access to proper health care and nutrition. You know, caus they're breeder sluts, like most lesser races.




    Goddamn I am so cool.

    Wish I could show you how big my penis is. And how smart I am. Truly, I am a shining golden child of how great the white race is.

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    Yeah. That's right! Avoid all that hippy, gay, girly foods such as tofu. It'll make you gay and give you a small willy! [/QUOTE]


    LOL!!! now i have a really good ecxuse to Bar B Que for the third night in a row! MMMMMMM cow.

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    Explains why Japs and Chinese men have small willies. Doesn't explain why Indians have small ones though; maybe it's something in the curry.

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    Yeah! And eggs contain chicken jiz.

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    Soy has helped me to grow muscle mass, and my penis is its usual large size. Although, I am bi, I realised it long before I started to eat soy.

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    http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2001/may/tofu.htm

    The envious Chinese are obviously having their usual insidious effect, and shortening everyone up to Asian standards.

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    big brown was screwed up
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    I heard about this too, many formulas in the market have tendencies to raise estrogen levels though I can't give any examples now, but I've come accross it several times. But society has been supressing totesterone for years and encouraging (though I have no direct proof) estrogen. I read somewhere that specific salmons were showing higher estrogens, even in the males, which declined reproduction and birth rates. As for the yupppie foods like Tofu(which I greatly find disgusting and hilarious), you will never find me ordering one, it tastes like dried and battered wood chips. Besides I don't think I need more estrogen in my system, that would be messed up and would lead to stress. Women are too stressful. Oh my God, even other women can't take women's stress. The whole point of totesterone is to accomodate stress. So when the waiter asks what I would have on that Vietnamese cuisine, I'll tell them everything but leave the "Fu". No point intended, but if men didn't have to supress their naturality, they probably won't be waking up in the morning and shooting up schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bells View Post
    From what I've read on the matter, the exposure must be extreme or acute and ongoing. Now I am not sure exactly how much one must consume to result in a possible effect, but I'd imagine eating tofu every once in a while shouldn't cause that much damage.
    A lot needs to be consumed which is why they have soy supplements to provide the phytoestrogens needed for special hormonal needs. People with cancer are advised to avoid foods with too much phytoestrogen.

    http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/Fact.../fs1.phyto.cfm

    One recent study of Chinese women suggests that eating large amounts of soy during adolescence may reduce the risk of breast cancer. Studies in animals have demonstrated that the period of breast development is critical for mammary tumor inhibition by phytoestrogens. It is currently unclear if the results in Chinese women reflect a similar critical period or a lifetime of eating soy products.

    "Human epidemiological studies suggest that if breast cancer risk reduction is linked to eating soy phytoestrogens, the effect may be greater on premenopausal breast cancer. More studies are needed to determine if soy phytoestrogen and other phytoestrogens act largely on premenopausal breast cancer and whether the effectiveness of phytoestrogens is related to the period of life when they are eaten."

    Guys eat your soy you won't grow a pair of tits. You wont lose your penis from eating legumes either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucysnow View Post
    .... You wont lose your penis from eating legumes either.
    unless you do it naked outside in the winter.

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