Top 100 Criminal Corporations

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  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Here...
    http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/top100.html


    "THE TOP 100 CORPORATE CRIMINALS OF THE 1990's

    1) F. Hoffmann-La Roche Ltd.
    Type of Crime: Antitrust
    Criminal Fine: $500 million
    12 Corporate Crime Reporter 21(1), May 24, 1999

    2) Daiwa Bank Ltd.
    Type of Crime: Financial
    Criminal Fine: $340 million
    10 Corporate Crime Reporter 9(3), March 4, 1996

    3) BASF Aktiengesellschaft
    Type of Crime: Antitrust
    Criminal Fine: $225 million
    12 Corporate Crime Reporter 21(1), May 24, 1999

    4) SGL Carbon Aktiengesellschaft (SGL AG)
    Type of Crime: Antitrust
    Criminal Fine: $135 million
    12 Corporate Crime Reporter 19(4), May 10, 1999

    5) Exxon Corporation and Exxon Shipping
    Type of Crime: Environmental
    Criminal Fine: $125 million
    5 Corporate Crime Reporter 11(3), March 18, 1991

    6) UCAR International, Inc.
    Type of Crime: Antitrust
    Criminal Fine: $110 million
    12 Corporate Crime Reporter 15(6), April 13, 1998

    7) Archer Daniels Midland
    Type of Crime: Antitrust
    Criminal Fine: $100 million
    10 Corporate Crime Reporter 40(1), October 21, 1996

    8)(tie) Banker's Trust
    Type of Crime: Financial
    Criminal Fine: $60 million
    12 Corporate Crime Reporter 11(1), March 15, 1999

    8)(tie) Sears Bankruptcy Recovery Management Services
    Type of Crime: Fraud
    Criminal Fine: $60 million
    13 Corporate Crime Reporter 7(1), February 15, 1999

    10) Haarman & Reimer Corp.
    Type of Crime: Antitrust
    Criminal fine: $50 million
    11 Corporate Crime Reporter 5(4), February 3, 1997"


    Is suing them for a mere few hundred millions really effective? Isn't it better to liquidate them, or transfering ownership or management?

    Our world is controlled by corporations, and yet, they are the greatest criminals in the planet? How can we allow such a thing?
     
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  3. Hurricane Angel I am the Metatron Registered Senior Member

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    I don't see Halliburton.
     
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  5. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Well, we let regular ol' murderers out on bail to walk the streets in perfect freedom, ain't that worse than the corporations? And only about half of all murderers are brought to justice, so ain't that a lot worse? When our prisons become overcrowded, the courts let many convicted criminals right back out on the streets, so ain't that wores?

    How can we allow such things?

    Baron Max
     
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  7. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    This list measures criminal activity in dollars, but for the society, the effect could be more devastating than the dollar value.

    Let's say if we take it for granted that certain companies pushed this administration into war, a few thousand dead is more valuable (more damage) than 50 million bucks...
     
  8. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    But could also be LESS devastating. Even the horrendous Enron scandal really resulted in little damage to the society as a whole. The Exxon oil spill in Alaska was devastating to a few people, but the society barely felt the effects of it, if at all.

    With that thinking, then the auto makers of the world have "caused" millions of lives in car accidents in just the last few years. Add to that, the makers of gasoline for those cars. Society has lost millions of lives to car accidents.

    Baron Max
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    No. Anyone that dies of cancer or from bad pharmaceuticals are victims of corporations. That's a lot more people then the ones murdered by people.

    And how many corporations are brought to justice? More then half?

    The courts never put corporations in jail. Besides, america still has the most overcrowded jails in the world... More then 2 million american systems are in jail.

    Yes, indeed. How can we?
    I still don't understand what the ineficiencies of your jail system have to do with criminal corporations....
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, of course. As I said, they don't really pay enough...
     
  11. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    What are you talking about? Society is not the only stakeholder here. What about the environment? For how many millions of years will the oil spill affect the area?

    Baron, corporations have supported the war. There's an actual direct causal relationship here. Ironically, those corporations you are mentioning are some of those.
     
  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    You just like to be wrong...

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    I could look it up, but at least 1000 people lost their retirement money, so yes, society got a big hit. It was even bad by dollarvalue, if you multiply those accounts one by one...

    Of course wrong analogy, again. The difference is that the war wasn't necessery, changing position from point A to point B is... And try to walk from NYC to LA...

    Man, I appreciate your trying, but you will NEVER win an argument against me...

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  13. Hurricane Angel I am the Metatron Registered Senior Member

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    I see Baron Max is still an idiot.
     
  14. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    The sad thing is that one would think that after 8000+ posts here he could learn something or at least was able to construct a logical argument... Sad, really sad...
     
  15. draqon Banned Banned

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    why is Exxon only 6'th? shouldnt it be on no#1
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    Not really...IMHO idiots are those who answer him/her.
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Because Exxon is smart enough (better political connections) to pay only $110 million which is like pennies on the parking lot.
     
  18. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Umm, corportions are non-corporeal legal entities. It is impossible for a corporation to be a criminal.

    So much for clarity of thought.

    One wonders why you think irrationally jumping up and down and waving your arms all around over supposedly evil nonsensicalities can be construed by a thinking person as the equivalent of rational analysis.

    You're wasting your own intellectual energy, and others' time.
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    But the management can be - by inference...
     
  20. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    May I enlighten you? I can give you a small legal lesson...

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    You see.... corporations have the status of "persons". That's because when the 14th Amendment was written to protect slaves, corporate lawyers took advantage of it to claim corporations as "persons", and give them all this freedom. So now, corporations are liable for their actions- not the management nor the shareholders. So, yes, we can speak of corporations as persons, because, by law, they ARE persons. And by law, management cannot be held accountable.

    I hope this clarifies the issue...

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  21. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    As I've said many times before, they can buy justice....
     
  22. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    So, when I kill my corporation out from under your prosecutorial ass you're going to indict me for 1st degree murder?

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  23. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Is this the best rebuttal you can make?

    You are not worth my time...
     

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