The American Taliban

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by James R, Nov 21, 2006.

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What do you think of these people?

  1. I agree with them. America should become a theocracy!

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  2. I agree with some of them - especially that stuff about gay people.

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  3. One nation under God - only the fundamentalist Christian God, though.

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  4. These people are as nutty as fruitcakes

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  5. Other (see comment in thread)

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  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Are the following people good examples of good, righteous American Christians?

    Hands up who wants an America shaped by these people?

    http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture_War/The_American_Taliban.html

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    Ann Coulter:

    "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

    Bailey Smith:

    "With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."

    Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America):

    "Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."

    David Barton (Wallbuilders):

    "There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America."

    Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church):

    "Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports fags is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."


    Gary North (Institute for Christian Economics):

    "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship."


    Gary Potter (Catholics for Christian Political Action):

    "When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."


    George Bush Sr. (President of the United States)

    "I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."


    Henry Morris (Institute for Creation Research):

    "When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."


    J. B. Stoner (White Supremacist):

    "AIDS is a racial disease of Jews and Niggers, and fortunately it is wiping out the queers. I guess God hates queers for several reasons. There is one big reason to be against queers and that is because every time some white boy is seduced by a queer into becoming a queer, means his white bloodline has run out."


    James Dobson (Focus on the Family):

    "State Universities are breeding grounds, quite literally, for sexually transmitted diseases (including HIV), homosexual behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, alcoholism, and drug abuse."


    James Kennedy (Center for Reclaiming America):

    "The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ."


    James Watt (Secretary of the Interior, Reagan Administration):

    "We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."


    Jerry Falwell:

    "We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself."

    "The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."

    "AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."

    "If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."


    Jimmy Swaggart (Jimmy Swaggart Ministries):

    "The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy?"

    "Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest."

    "Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it...Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory."


    John Ashcroft (Attorney General):

    "Civilized people – Muslims, Christians, and Jews – all understand that the source of freedom and human dignity is the Creator."


    Joseph Morecraft (Chalcedon Presbyterian Church):

    "Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."


    Joseph Scheidler (Pro-Life Action League):

    "I would like to outlaw contraception...contraception is disgusting – people using each other for pleasure."


    Pat Buchanan (Presidential Candidate):

    "Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."

    "Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism."


    Pat Robertson (Christian Coalition):

    "Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

    "The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."

    "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

    "[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."


    Randall Terry (Operation Rescue):

    "I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."

    "Our goal must be simple. We must have a Christian nation built on God's law, on the ten Commandments. No apologies."

    "I don't think Christians should use birth control. You consummate your marriage as often as you like – and if you have babies, you have babies."

    "When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."


    Robert Simonds (Citizens for Excellence in Education):

    "As the church watches from the sidelines, the ungodly elect atheists and homosexuals to school boards and legislatures to enact policies and laws that destroy our Christian children and discriminate against Christian families."

    "Atheistic secular humanists should be removed from office and Christians should be elected...Government and true Christianity are inseparable."

    "We'll take away their power and their money. Money comes from students. We'll break their backs by taking 24 million kids out of the public schools."


    Rush Limbaugh:

    "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."

    "There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"


    Star Parker (Coalition on Urban Renewal & Education):

    "Anybody that believes in separation of church and state needs to leave right now."


    Tony Evans (Promise Keepers):

    "The demise of our community and culture is the fault of sissified men who have been overly influenced by women."


    William Rehnquist (Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court):

    "The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."
     
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  3. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Yes very disturbing and frightening.
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    I was going to say...they are not people...and why do fruitcakes get the blame for these evil creatures?
     
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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    Don't need a hands up. The fact that these people are in positions of power sadly show that they are shaping the country and its portrayal to others in a way.

    And it's not just in the US. There are millions, upon millions around the world who believe in some of the drivel spouted by the likes of Swaggart and co. I consider it to be akin to the spread of a disease, sadly this is one that cannot really be eradicated as it is so entrenched in society and what constitutes said society.
     
  8. Fire Registered Senior Member

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    The funny thing is, if there is a far right in america, as Bill Maher says, there is no far left. Democrats have to go to the right to be electable. As well as the fact that there are no atheists to my knowledge who are elected to congress. Of course there ARE atheists in congress, but to admit it would be political suicide.
     
  9. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't read the first post the first time I came to this thread, but WTF!! That's so ridicolous. There are 4 that stand out from the others though(because they're just WAY too crazy):
     
  10. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    I'd just like to note how sexy Ann Coulter is.
     
  11. Gustav Banned Banned

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    Bells, Cris, Crunchy Cat, draqon, Fire, geeser, James R, Oniw17, samcdkey, SkinWalker, soccerace1214, spidergoat, Zakariya04

    fucking foreigners
    aiding and abetting
    enemy combatants

    god is watching
     
  12. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    Hi PJ

    good observation, i thought this a while back.....

    i think the bitcheyness in her makes her hot!!!!

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    take care
    zak
     
  13. Gustav Banned Banned

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  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Don't be shy. Vote for them, why don't you?

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  15. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Oh God, are you serious?

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    Even if she weren't evil, spawn of Satan, queen-bitch, she is just ugly.

    Oh well. To each is own, I suppose.

    Excuse me, I need to go puke now.
     
  16. Enterprise-D I'm back! Warp 8 Mr. Worf! Registered Senior Member

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    Did anyone notice that many of these bigots are by and large physically unattractive? (with Prince James' plausible exception of Ann). Do you think the lack of sex contributes to their ornery and unsociable behaviour?

    At any rate...this kind of unholy matrimony of churchies and political power happens way too often in my country as well, despite the lip service to a cosmopolitan and open minded state. Fundamentalist christianity is entirely too powerful a movement.

    I'm actually bracing myself for some kind of religious fascism upcoming, something like depicted in V For Victory...and the inevitable fall of the Christian empire...which will take out the rest of religion with it.
     
  17. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    He'll undoubtedly send a hurricane to my city to punish me. At least, that's what Pat Robertson predicted for the citizens of Dover, PA who voted out the nutjobs that were on the school board trying to get pseudoscience taught to their children.
     
  18. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Especially when she's dribbling during a rant.
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    jesus christ james even a theist and patriot like me is disgusted by that load of garbage.

    i couldn't vote because you didn't include "slowly tortured to death"
     
  20. Bells Staff Member

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    Gusty!!

    Then stand up for your beliefs and vote differently.

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    After all, if God is watching us, God is undoubtedly watching you and your silence and lack of vote on the matter.

    *Sniff*.. mmmm I'm smelling roasted Gusty a la hell being served as the next course..

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  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    She sure is, who cares what she says?
     
  22. baumgarten fuck the man Registered Senior Member

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    I think it would be great to shut up one of her batshit tirades by sweeping her off her feet and ravaging her. Total domination. Awwww yeeeeah.
     
  23. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    I may disagree with what they say, but I'll fight to the death for their right to say it.

    Baron Max
     

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