Upside-down fighting

[alexb123]

I have two cats and they often have fights. I have noticed that one of them by choice will fight upside-down, why is this? It does not seem a very good method of fighting to me, so why does she do it?

It could just be that the cat is an idiot because in general she is!

It has also made me think of what would happen if Mike Tyson or someone attempted the same?

[spidergoat]

It might be a good defensive position where the back claws can come into play.

[Theoryofrelativity]

Alex, This position is submissive position, rolling over with all fours in air is being submissive, supposed to deter attack.

Note how a lion tamer in circus ring uses a chair to deter the tiger from attack. The four chair legs represent to the tiger an animal being submissive, hence no attack warranted.

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Note how a lion tamer in circus ring uses a chair to deter the tiger from attack. The four chair legs represent to the tiger an animal being submissive, hence no attack warranted.

Do you make this stuff up as you go along?

Lions get confused by the four legs of the chair, they don't know where to look and lose their train of thought. It's got nothing to do with submissiveness.

[Theoryofrelativity]

Do you make this stuff up as you go along?

Lions get confused by the four legs of the chair, they don't know where to look and lose their train of thought. It's got nothing to do with submissiveness.

http://www.vtaide.com/png/George/lion-tamers.htm

So as well as trolling you can add plaguerism to your list of tricks...now who is the loser..

I am flattered that you felt the need to google my answer, meanwhile since when were lion tamers educated in animal psychology, dumb ass. You not only stole your reply but you quoted a circus gypsy as your source of reference.

"According to Dave Hoover, a lion tamer,
"Lions are very single-minded. When you point the four legs of a chair at them, they get confused. They don't know where to look, and they lose their train of thought."

They lose their train of thought do they Q, adding mind reading to your resume?

[Theoryofrelativity]

http://www.penmarric.ns.ca/catcare/c...Aggression.htm

Meanwhile like I said...submissiveness ....but as you note fight display

"How can we tell that the cat is frightened? Frightened cats crouch and hug the ground, her ears are pressed back to the head and flatten, pupils become wider, and she can growl and hiss. It may roll over onto her back, almost into a position of trust, exposing her abdomen, but she is being wily, and will attach as soon as you approach her."

You have a wily moggie

Dogs also roll onto their backs as show of submissiveness, bonus is they get tummy rub.

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They lose their train of thought do they Q, adding mind reading to your resume?

http://unmfdn.giftlegacy.com/article...-0258&D=200541

[Theoryofrelativity]

http://unmfdn.giftlegacy.com/article...-0258&D=200541

yeh great link:

"folklore would have us believe that this would be the best defense against a ferocious, charging lion."

Folk law great for 'proving a point is it not, So you advocate presuming to know what a lion thinks do you Q , intriguing. Keep googling away. Spend your life obsessing about me. It is a worthy cause, if NOT rewarding. Plagueriser.

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yeh great link:

"folklore would have us believe that this would be the best defense against a ferocious, charging lion."

I seriously suggest you take a course in remedial English, your comprehension skills are atrocious.

"The secret behind it is that it turns the lion's greatest advantage into its greatest weakness. Lions have an incredible ability to focus. They are adept hunters and can track their prey with uncanny precision. When faced with the chair, the potential "prey" becomes four.

The chair is always presented to the lion with the legs pointing at it. The animal sees the four legs and attempts to hone in on these new targets. His attention moves from one leg to another like a fast moving clock. He becomes so preoccupied trying to track the four legs that he becomes confused and can't move. It is simply too much for the lion to absorb. His inability to focus has caused him to be still."

[Theoryofrelativity]

Plaguriser

[(Q)]

Plaguriser

Oh, and try using a dictionary now and again, too.

Plagiarise.

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And, in case you need a source for that:

http://dictionary.reference.com/

[Theoryofrelativity]

A thread purely for ranting:

My rant:
Sci forums has more than fair share of pedants and English lecturers.
If you can't express an opposing view but dislike the view expressed why waste your time and the readers by posting about spelling and grammar and your poor interpretation of what is on the page. I myself can understand most illiterate drivel and don't feel the need to educate or lecture anyone on their literacy level. This is not www.Englishlanguageforums.com.

So for all you pedants out there who bore me with your replies (not mine surprisingly) to other posters by moaning on about their 'presentation' get a bloomin' life!

You may rant here about whatever you like.

From first post in rant thread, in other words Q I don't give a shit about your opinion more so now I know you are just a little plagiariser...doesn't matter how it's spelled, the fact is you are a fraud.

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I myself can understand most illiterate drivel

How can you make that claim if you don't even understand the literate, drivel or otherwise?

[Theoryofrelativity]

How can you make that claim if you don't even understand the literate, drivel or otherwise?

plagiariser

[(Q)]

plagiariser

Finally! You got it right! Congratulations, it only took you several attempts.

Maybe it was just a fluke?

[Killjoy]

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A clear case of plagiarism...

I'd sue if I were you.

No court in the world is going to support the defense that the spelling of a word is so-called "public domain".

Most likely you wouldn't get much of a monetary punitive judgement -
After all, how much "pain & suffering" damage can one really claim here ?

But dammit, you'd be able to hold your head high and say:
No one's going to learn illicitly from MY example !

[Neildo]

Well getting on your back is the animal form of submission. My animals do it all the time and I've seen others as well. However, they also play on their backs like that too, mostly when wiggling back and forth as if grinding their backs into the ground twisting about.

Either your cat is being submissive, just playing around, or has been watching too many videos of Royce Gracie. I vote for the latter.



- N

[Neildo]

WHAT!? Q plaguerizing? So THAT's how he always sounds so smart. Has he been doing nothing but that all along? Aww, my image of him is ruined now.

- N

[Crunchy Cat]

I have two cats and they often have fights. I have noticed that one of them by choice will fight upside-down, why is this? It does not seem a very good method of fighting to me, so why does she do it?

It could just be that the cat is an idiot because in general she is!

It has also made me think of what would happen if Mike Tyson or someone attempted the same?

I've got two cats that do the same (assuming you mean upside-down fighting is one cat being on its back). I've observe the behavior to know it's nothing to do with submission and everything to do with the 'kick-boot'. WTF you say? Cats have pretty hefty hind paws and they can graple their playmate with front paws while pummeling them rapidly (like thumper) with the back paws. I'll speculate that in the wild, the same behavior might be used as part of an attack against prey... the kick-boot may quickly disembowl larger prey.