Advocating racial study

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  1. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    I saw the thread on "Races of Europe" was closed. Too bad, as that book contains science that is still recognized today.

    The study of ethnic origins is fascinating. How do we separate this from the kind of "racism" we see at KKK meetings or in the Israeli Knesset?

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  3. ecofascist Registered Member

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    I can't believe they locked the Races of Europe topic. Is it that they want to deny Europeans their racial origins or they fear races like the Slavs will be criticized?

    Races do exist and nature has this wonderful diversity, so let's preserve it.

    Races of humanity -

    Outline of Human Racial Classification:

    I. Capoid or Khoisanid Subspecies of southern Africa

    A. Khoid (Hottentot) race
    B. Sanid (Bushmen) race

    II. Congoid Subspecies of sub-Saharan Africa

    A. Central Congoid race (Geographic center and origin in the Congo river basin)

    1. Palaecongoid subrace (the Congo river basin: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Congo, Angola)
    2. Sudanid subrace (western Africa: Niger, Mali, Senegal, Guinea)
    3. Nilotid subrace (southern Sudan; the ancient Nubians were of this subrace)
    4. Kafrid or Bantid subrace (east and south Africa: Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Natal)

    B. Bambutid race (African Pygmies)
    C. Aethiopid race (Ethiopia, Somalia; hybridized with Caucasoids)

    III. Caucasoid or Europid Subspecies (Geographic distribution centered in the Caucasus mountains)

    A. Mediterranid race

    1. West Mediterranean or Iberid subrace (Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, and coastal areas of Morocco and Tunisia; the Atlanto-Mediterranean peoples who expanded over much of the Atlantic coastal regions of Europe during the Mesolithic period were a branch of this subrace)
    2. East Mediterranean or Pontid subrace (Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria; Aegean coasts of Greece and Turkey)
    3. Dinaricized Mediterraneans (Residual mixed types resulting from the blending of Mediterranids with Dinarics, Alpines or Armenids; not a unified type, has much regional variation; predominant element [over 60%] in Sicily and southern Italy, principal element in Turkey [35%], important element in western Syria, Lebanon and central Italy, common in northern Italy. The ancient Cappadocian Mediterranean subrace of Anatolia was dinaricized during the Bronze Age [second millennium B.C.] and is a major contributor to this type in modern Turkey.)
    4. South Mediterranean or Saharid subrace (predominant in Algeria and Libya, important in Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt)
    5. Orientalid or Arabid subrace (predominant in Arabia, major element from Egypt to Syria, primary in northern Sudan, important in Iraq, predominant element among the Oriental Jews)

    B. Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans [Dinaric Mountains] and northern Italy, important in the Czech Republic, eastern and southern Switzerland, western Austria and eastern Ukraine)
    C. Alpine race (predominant element in Luxembourg, primary in Bavaria and Bohemia, important in France, Hungary, eastern and southern Switzerland)
    D. Ladogan race (named after Lake Ladoga; indigenous to Russia; includes Lappish subrace of arctic Europe)
    E. Nordish or Northern European race (various subraces in the British Isles, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Belgium; predominant element in Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Finland and the Baltic States; majority in Austria and Russia; minority in France, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary; outlined in detail in The Nordish Race)
    F. Armenid race (predominant element in Armenia, common in Syria, Lebanon and northern Iraq, primary element among the Ashkenazic Jews)
    G. Turanid race (partially hybridized with Mongoloids; predominant element in Kazakhstan.; common in Hungary and Turkey)
    H. Irano-Afghan race (predominant in Iran and Afghanistan, primary element in Iraq, common [25%] in Turkey)
    I. Indic or Nordindid race (Pakistan and northern India)
    J. Dravidic race (India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka [Ceylon]; ancient stabilized Indic-Veddoid [Australoid] blend)

    IV. Australoid Subspecies

    A. Veddoid race (remnant Australoid population in central and southern India)
    B. Negritos (remnants in Malaysia and the Philippines)
    C. Melanesian race (New Guinea, Papua, Solomon Islands)
    D. Australian-Tasmanian race (Australian Aborigines)

    V. Mongoloid Subspecies

    A. Northeast Asian race (various subraces in China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)
    B. Southeast Asian race (various subraces in Indochina, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, some partly hybridized with Australoids)
    C. Micronesian-Polynesian race (hybridized with Australoids)
    D. Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)
    E. Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)
    F. Amerindian race (American Indians; various subraces)

    Nordish or Northern European Race

    1. Inner Circle of Core or Central Subracial Types

    a. Aboriginal Northwest European subraces (The descendants of the first peoples to settle in northern Europe after the retreat of the glaciers, at the end of the last ice age, during the Upper Paleolithic period circa 8,000 B.C.)

    1.) Borreby subrace (named after Danish island site where paleolithic remains were found; principal element in Denmark, southwest coast of Sweden, northern Germany, the Rhineland and the Ruhr, majority element in Wallonia)
    2.) Brünn subrace (named after paleolithic site near Brno, or Brünn, Czech Republic; predominant element in western Ireland)

    b. Nordic or Nordid subrace (The modern Nordic subrace is descended from the proto-Nordic Danubian neolithic farmers of the Danube valley whose expansion into northwest Europe circa 3,500 B.C. is probably associated with the spread of neolithic agriculture and the Indo-European language.)

    1.) Hallstatt or Österdal type (named after Austrian site where remains were found and Norwegian valley near Oslo; predominant element in Sweden and southeastern Norway, common in Denmark, western Finland, eastern England and northern Germany)
    2.) Keltic type (predominant element in Flanders, majority in the Netherlands and northern and western Switzerland, primary element in England, eastern Scotland and old Frankish country in southwest Germany, common in Wales and Ireland; ancient Franks and northern Kelts were of this type)

    c. Blended types of above subraces

    1.) Anglo-Saxon or Old Germanic Reihengräber type (Nordic- Brünn blend; predominant element in the Dutch province of Friesland (Frisia) and the Dutch and German Frisian Islands, common in southeast England and northwest Germany)
    2.) Trønder type (Brünn-Nordic blend; predominant element in Trøndelagen area of western Norway [whence the name] and Iceland, common in northeast England and Scotland)
    3.) Fälish, Dalofalid or Dalo-Nordic type (Nordic-Borreby blend; names from Fälen [German for "plain"] and Dalarna region of Sweden (Kopparberg); primary element on the north German plain, Jutland and the Swedish province of Kopparberg)

    2. Outer Circle of Periphery Subracial Types

    a. Northwestern periphery types (ancient stabilized blends of Inner Circle or Central Nordish inhabitants of northwestern Europe with Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean immigrants)

    1.) North-Atlantid type (associated with megalithic monuments and long barrow burial sites; primary element in Wales, southeast coast of Ireland and western Scotland, common in England; in coloring combines dark hair with usually light eyes)
    2.) Palaeo-Atlantid type (common in Wales and in western England and Scotland from the Midlands to Glasgow, minor element in Norway; hair and eye coloring both dark)

    b. Southern and Eastern periphery types (ancient stabilized blends of Inner Circle Nordish types with neighboring Caucasoid races)

    1.) Neo-Danubian type (eastern periphery blend of original Danubian proto-Nordic with Ladogan, with the Danubian element dominant; majority element in Poland and Belorussia, primary element in Hungary, west Ukraine and northwest Russia, important in Finland and the Baltic States)
    2.) East Baltic type (northeast periphery blend of Borreby and/or Fälish with Neo-Danubian and/or Ladogan; majority element in Finland and the Baltic States, formerly predominant in Old Prussia, but this element now dispersed throughout Germany as a result of the post-war expulsion of the Prussian population from its ancestral homeland)
    3.) Noric or Sub-Nordic type (southern periphery blend of Nordic with Alpine and/or Dinaric, with the Nordic element dominant; principal element in northern France, important element in central Germany and Austria, common in Transylvania and western Ukraine, minor in British Isles)

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  5. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    I think it's just blind fear. Kaczynski had it right: people who are unstable need pity to feel good about themselves. Unscientific, yes, it is.
     
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  7. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    "Race is a real cultural, political and economic concept in society, but it is not a biological concept, and that unfortunately is what many people wrongfully consider to be the essence of race in humans -- genetic differences," says Templeton. "Evolutionary history is the key to understanding race, and new molecular biology techniques offer so much on recent evolutionary history. I wanted to bring some objectivity to the topic. This very objective analysis shows the outcome is not even a close call: There's nothing even like a really distinct subdivision of humanity."
    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/1998-10/WUiS-GSRD-071098.php
     
  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    yeah right
    if we followed kaczynskis advice we would all be living in caves wearing loinclothes
     
  9. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    As proven here [link removed], his argument is inaccurate.

    See also here:
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  10. s0meguy Worship me or suffer eternally Valued Senior Member

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    I agree that there are differences between people from other places: the results of evolution and to deny that would be extremely stupid. Let's see what the dictionary has to say about this:

    "1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics."

    "5.a An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies."

    Heck, there needn't even be physical characteristics:

    "2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race."

    "4. Humans considered as a group."

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race

    Therefore yes biological races DO exist PERIOD

    Now that wasn't so bad was it?
     
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  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    android:

    You titled this thread "Advocating racial study".

    For what purposes do you advocate racial study, specifically?


    ecofascist:

    In what year was the material your posted first published?
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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  14. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Nice find Leopold interesting stuff.
     

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