11-08-05, 01:25 AM #1
Australia foils chemical weapon attack~`~`~`~`~`
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Australia foils 'terror attack'
About 500 police took part in the raids in Sydney and Melbourne
Australian police say they have foiled a terrorist attack in the final stages of its preparation, after 16 people were arrested in Sydney and Melbourne.
New South Wales police chief Ken Moroney said a "potentially catastrophic attack" had been averted.
One suspect was shot and wounded during a raid in Sydney. Chemicals, weapons, and computers were seized, police said.
The operation came nearly a week after Australia's anti-terror laws were changed to give police greater powers.
Police raided 23 houses in Sydney and Melbourne early on Tuesday, as part of the country's largest ever counter-terrorism operation.
The raids involved about 500 police officers and followed a 16-month investigation, officials said.
"I'm satisfied that we have disrupted what I would regard as the final stages of a large-scale terrorist attack, or the launch of a terrorist attack," Mr Moroney told Australia's ABC radio.
Those arrested in Melbourne include Abu Bakr, an outspoken Algerian-Australian cleric who has in the past praised Osama Bin Laden as "a great man".
He was among nine men who appeared in court in the city on Tuesday, and were charged with membership of a "terrorist organisation".
Each of the members of the group are committed to the cause of violent jihad
Prosecutor Richard Maidment told the court the men had formed a terrorist group to kill "innocent men and women in Australia".
He claims they received military-style training in rural Australia and had discussions about bomb-making.
Those arrested in Sydney are also due to appear in court.
"The members of the Sydney group have been gathering chemicals of a kind that were used in the London Underground bombings," Mr Maidment said, adding that Abu Bakr was the ringleader of both the Melbourne and Sydney groups.
Police said one of the suspects in Sydney was shot and seriously wounded after they came under fire. They said the suspect had refused orders to surrender.
There was no immediate comment from those arrested.
Police declined to give details of the likely target of the attack, but Victoria state police chief Christine Nixon said next year's Commonwealth Games, to be held in the city, were not a target.
Prime Minister John Howard said the arrests vindicated the government's decision to rush through amendments to the anti-terror laws.
"This country has never been immune from a possible terrorist attack," he said in a televised news conference.
"It's important that we continue to mobilise all of the resources of the commonwealth and the states to fight terrorism."
The changes were enacted on Thursday, to make it easier for police to prosecute suspects believed to be planning attacks.
Mr Howard at the time said he had received credible intelligence of a "terrorist threat".
Australia is a key ally of the US in its "war on terror", and has sent troops to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There has never been a major terrorist attack on Australian soil, although 88 Australians died in the 2002 Bali bombings, and Australia's embassy in Indonesia was bombed in 2004.
The new war on terror hits oz shores, but dont worry all religons are doing these things.
The occupied lands of australia the war has begun, for them to claim there lands back like israel palestine, it is another just cause.
The earth is theres we are all occupying there lands we must give them back, im all for it.
A chemical weapons attack in OZ, now theres a 1st are some posters here horrified, and now getting patriotic about how dare they attack us.
You guys were so close to being a victim, maybe now you can see why brits and yanks already a victim of this madness, are so pissed of about it all.
And full credit to OZ police, what a amazing job something the brits could learn from, probably too busy doing the times crossword & playing polo at MI5, as there intelligence network failed.
Last edited by vincent; 11-08-05 at 01:33 AM.
11-08-05, 01:33 AM #2
Why are the media so eager to forget the bombing of the sydney hilton hotel?
But yes, kudos to our police for doing something preventative.
if these people don't respect our culture, our country, why the fuck are they living here?
11-08-05, 01:36 AM #3Originally Posted by vincent28uk
11-08-05, 01:37 AM #4Originally Posted by Huwy
11-08-05, 01:39 AM #5
But the Aborigines were here first, so they have a right to be here, even if their culture is different.
The aborigines didn't come here after the white settlers, looking for a better life.
11-08-05, 01:48 AM #6
And for those who say Austraila was attacked because of there support for the iraq war, simple answer why was bali attacked, indonesia never supported the war in iraq, why was there a terroist attack foiled in singapore 2 years ago, they never sent troops to iraq.
To find justification for terroist acts is easy, but the hard truth is, there can never be justification for killing innocent people, the ira mostly attacked political figures or army figures in there attacks, these new breed of terroists seem only interested in attacking the public, what have we done to them, there fight is with our governments.
11-08-05, 01:52 AM #7Originally Posted by Huwy
11-08-05, 01:55 AM #8Originally Posted by Brian Foley
As for morris dancing hey im all for any form of relaxation be it tai chi, hypnosis, anything to calm the animal instinct in all of us.
I see you ignored the point of this thread totally, and instead attacked me, does that say something about you brian, why do you ignore terroism, unless that terroism is by bush as you say, you side with *ran a country that condones the massacre of israel, killing millions there that is there wish, there presidents the current one, and the one before have both said it, are you a *uslim brian, who has adopted a uk sounding name to play boths sides.
11-08-05, 02:19 AM #9
""And for those who say Austraila was attacked because of there support for the iraq war, simple answer why was bali attacked, """
To kill westerners, for invading afghanistan and iraq.
"""there can never be justification for killing innocent people, the ira mostly attacked political figures or army figures in there attacks, these new breed of terroists seem only interested in attacking the public, what have we done to them, there fight is with our governments."""
And our fight was with Saddams government, but our public has complicitly supported its government in these wars, which in case you havent realised, have cost the lives of tens of thousands of innocent people.
Reliable estimates of innocent civilians killed in Iraq range from 30,000 - 100,000.
11-08-05, 04:01 AM #10Originally Posted by Huwy
What about the attacks in bali, the attempted attack in singapore a very peaceful country, whats the justification there, answers please
Along as you & others find justification for there acts the longer there attacks will continue....
11-08-05, 05:16 AM #11
1000 posts, when do i get my left wing badge, or space cadet hat.
Or my 2week all expenses paid vacation in Iran, as promised by the management of this forum, for pretending to be right wing, so as to keep the forum balanced, i am packing my bullet proof vest, and i have bought a false beard to fit in with the locals, i await my air tickets, and free accomadation in a loving *uslim home.
I am forwarding my address for you to send it to me.
11-08-05, 05:36 AM #12Originally Posted by vincent28uk
I think he also said Australia was targeted for their association with America, and its involvement in East Timor’s change to independence from Indonesia in 1999.
Along as you & others find justification for there acts the longer there attacks will continue....
It can't be justified, but it can be given a reason, no matter how unmerited it may seem.
11-08-05, 06:54 AM #13
Huwy no we certainly didnt, little johnny was more interested in what bush wanted than what we did and thats the truth, pitty australians are to dumb to rember that when election time comes around
11-08-05, 07:51 AM #14Originally Posted by Asguard
Could it be you are in the minority, and your fellow ozzies are in the majority in there support for howard and the iraq war, before the war the percentage in oz were in favour of it.
So being in the minority on this issue, and on howard do we have some common situation here, that you are a person in the minority, being in the minority does that mean you are right, and the majority is wrong here, because history has shown minorities are loose cannons, thats why we have the united nations to unite the majority of the people in the world.
How about a new organization the minority nations, that way all the people of the world with a minority opinion can have there say too.
And maybe we can have new world leaders too, the popular leaders voted by the majority, and a special minority leader voted in by the people with esp of the minority world.
11-08-05, 07:57 AM #15
Actually, Asguard, there was no clear majority either for or against our involvement in Iraq at the time we became so. What "we" wanted is NOT what you think it is, you misguided, uninformed twit.
You know... I'm almost at the point where I hope you and your kind prevail in the end. I really do. Because when it all comes crashing down around your ears, when everything you know disappears and your world changes forever, when your ilk finally succeed in pulling down whatever passes for strong leaders in this world and replace them with weak willed copies of yourselves, when your protests that you were sympathetic to their cause fall on deaf ears and you discover you have no place in their world either... that's when I'm going to have the most honest, heartfelt laugh I've had in a long, long time.
It would be the final proof that none of this made sense, nor was it ever meant to. It would be beautiful.
11-08-05, 08:01 AM #16Originally Posted by vincent28uk
And I don't know of one person who was in favour of it...
It seems to me that most people did oppose the war, and little johnny too, so I can't understand why they keep voting him in, either.
11-08-05, 08:05 AM #17
would you like to point out exactly WHERE howard is thinking about the people who voted for him?
ill take any law you like, which laws actually help anyone. NONE thats the whole point but for some reason people seem to think that no unfair dismissal is good, detention of political persons is good (wonder how long till the oposition leader gets arested because that is exactly how those laws read), making us a target is good, screwing small business (i know at least 2 small business owners who hate his guts for the amount of paperwork they now have to do because of him) come on where? Problem is we just dont care
11-08-05, 08:23 AM #18Originally Posted by Asguard
There very reason you exist today apart from your parents, is the fact you are living in a wealthy country that takes care of its citizens, you should think yourself damn lucky you were not born in burma, or zimbabwe.
boy you do have a hard life in OZ, what has the government done to you apart from, not giving power of the country to you, that has so upset you have they broke your colouring pencils.
11-08-05, 01:18 PM #19Latham says US alliance makes Australia more of a terrorist target
MARK LATHAM: Well, I think we should have a look at how New Zealand has made itself the safest country in the world. There's no terrorist threat to New Zealand that's been identified, but one here, because if you go supporting bad American policy you make yourself a bigger target and you stir dissent in your own country.
11-08-05, 01:31 PM #20
Poor little Brian - he's realising the same problems that Britain has experienced for years - get over it Bri !