Gun-to-nose vs. Lack-of-soul

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by nicholas1M7, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. nicholas1M7 Banned Banned

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    For anyone (a convo I had on msn, the first speaker is me):


    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    your msn name is shit how the FUCK does "what desperate pleas, our confident words" concern anyone important???
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    listen dummy
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    be cool
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    ever heard that saying?
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I have.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    your pretentiousness doesn't even escape a slightly above normal intelligence
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    how about something like...
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    "Whagwaan brejin whayahada deal wit?"
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I prefer what I have.
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    thank you.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU PREFER YOU PRESENT VS. FUTURE CONTRADICTORY BASTARD!!!
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    what you are in the present will become completely remote in a week and your msn NOW... will become worse than obsolete.
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    nevertheless, it will remain as it is until I choose to alter it.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    Fuck you
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    dummy
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    that may be the case
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    you retard the fact that you take offence to any ~5 letter label screams something and that is... that if being a loser and an outcast is a necessary prerequisite to the label "genius" then you're a peice of genius garbage, you genius nothing, I social BIIIIIIG TIME (psst, and yet I'm smarter than you shhh).
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    what you got to say?
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    .that may be the case.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    hmmm
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    excellent, maybe if I repeat the same pathetic phrase that will cause him to be self-defeating right?
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    and...
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Not self-defeating, not at all. Simply, it may indeed be the case. Whether I attept to dissuade you of that stance or not is irrelevant. You seem to already have your mind made up.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    IGNORANCE OF IGNORANCE AND NIGGA STREET LIFE AS OPPOSED TO THE IGNORANT SUBURBIA THAT YOUR CONDITIONING SCREAMS IS ALL THAT MATTERS. (see batman begins to comprehend the human pillar of pain, suffering and nothingness turned superhero.)
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    the urban warrior is your foundation for life
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    and of life
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I have seen Batman Begins. Excellent film.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    okay and have you per chance visited any of my thoughts on the subject?
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    posted around the net
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I have not, sorry. As I said, I haven't really been there for a while.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    recently when I came recently myself I saw your name
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    and sciforums is only one of two forums that I ever frequent
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    and date
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    yes... occasionally I look in the religion forum to see if there's anything of interest... there usually isn't
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    www.cerebals.com (see mike perulli under "history" and "psychology" if you may..."
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    if may that is
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    the link isn't working for e
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    me*
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    here and there its a dummy link
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    usually it works
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I've clicked it about 5 times now... doesn't work... I'll just go there manually
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    o worries, it'll be back up in the morning no rush but here...
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=47189
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    are these the posts that you didn't like?
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    fuck just shut up and peep at your convenience PLEASE AND THANKYOU BREJIN
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I was simply curious
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    wow
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    mike perulli is my alia
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    s
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    repost what you last wrote
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    signed out
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    okay then shut the fuck up
    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    ... I only said "on cerebrals" in reference to you telling me your alias is mike perulli
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    wow how brilliant
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    YES it was an excellent film YES the goal was believablism
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    BUT...
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    to obtain a full philosphical/ psychological comprehension peruse ma words niggaaaa

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I am doing so

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    However, I felt that the philosophical/psychological premises of the movie were well portrayed, and clear.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Far more clear than, say, those of the Matrix series, which was also an excellent set of films

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    though the Matrix dealt much more with the philosophical than the psychological, and was much more complex in that regard.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    it extends beyond a simple film just shut the fuck do you have ANY clue as to the fantasmism of Batman's heroic history in all forms of media???

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    good point mad respect

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    see "Psychology of Bruce Wayne" my second last response if wou may

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    well, I ceratinly can't claim to know the "full" extent of Batman's heroic history in all forms of media, but I'm not fully unaware of it either.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    okay good

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    HE MEETS SUPERHERO REQUIREMENTS ON THE SUPERMAN LEVEL MUTHA FUCKAA

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    YET HE'S HUMAN

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    !!

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    In which forum?

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    SUperman has NO fucking CLUE of Batman's human weaknesses let alone anything on Maslow's hierarchy of needs!

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Psychology?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    found it

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    do you enjoy reading?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    novels and such?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    (brb, going to put some chicked wings into the oven)

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    DO I HAVE TO FUCKING KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO???

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    Am I supposed to tell you that's "cute" just shut the fuck up PLEASE

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I expected such a response. No, I suppose you don't need to know what I'm doing. It was merely a gesture.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Anyway, do you enjoy novels?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I am simply curious, because I would like to recommend a series. I recommend it to you because of your appreciation for Batman.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    holy fuck you northern, have you any clue what it feels like to have a gun pointing at your nose?

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    or to live in a neighborhood of police and/ or gangs

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    ?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I do not.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    Batman does

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    niggaz do

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    real ones anyway

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Yes.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Am I then to understand that you have interest in the novel series I would like to recommend to you?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    have no**

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    .

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    siorue

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    suit yourself

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    If you're wondering why I haven't commented on your posts... it's because, from what I've read though, your assessments look accurate, and so I simply have nothing to add, detract, or make comment on.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    it was from reading your posts that I was inspired to recommend the series of novels

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    I'm glad you acknowledge it as "accurate" thanks. Anyhow, can you even remotely imagine yourself in such a gun-to-nose predicament? I thought so.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    your choice in music (non-rap) your way of life and all that is pure suburbian ignorance that shelters you from the ghetto nightmares that little homies experience day to day (e.g. being happy your under the covers when you hear gun shots outside the bedroom window and thinking its everyday happenings..."

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I am wondering what this thought experiment is leading to

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    enlightenment now answer or just shut the fuck up please

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    thankyou.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    can I imagine myself in such a gun-to-nose predicament? remotely.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    in that case...

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    shut the fuck up please homie you know nothing.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    are you faced with such a "gun-to-nose" situation?

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    yeh and I'm emotionally above it whereas you don't even have merely an
    intellectual hint of it.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    then I congratulate you

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    thankyou.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I also retract my recommendation. I see your admiration of Batman stems
    from a more primary source than I was aware of.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    congratulations you made an analysis. I guess that means your above it all.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    does it? I don't think so.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    good.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Tell me, from whence springs your arrogance? Or rather, your disgust?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I have offered you nothing but respect with my speech. By your speech you have offered me nothing but scorn and contempt. Why?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    You say you're emotionally above your circumstances, yet each time you speak to me, your verbal mannerisms betray that statement.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    You seem only to converse in attacks, no doubt a social conditioning. Yet, one who is emotionally above his circumstances should also be above his social conditionings.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    This isn't a form of heroism. The same decadency that was responsible for his parents' deaths, their own lacking, represents the same basic decadency that causes social death, antisocialism.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    It is an inner decadency, a lack of discipline, that you display whenever you attack in conversation where no attack is called for, or incited.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I am speaking to you on peaceful terms. It is befitting that you speak upon that same basic principle. Peace.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    It isn't a movement toward strife that drove Bruce Wayne to take up the mask. It was a move toward peace. An end to the decadency that is the root of war and strife.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I haven't experienced what you have. This is not a fault of mine. I was conditioned under a particular social construct. This isn't a fault of mine. Every man lives upon the foundation of his experience. Every man thinks upon the foundation of his experience. My lack of the same kinds of experiences as yours doesn't make mine any less real, any less impacting.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Trauma has never been a real factor in my life. It isn't one of the foundations of my experiences, and thus of my actions and thoughts. I live to grow, to achieve, to understand, to attain, to excell. These have been the foundational experiences of my life, and so it is how I live, how I think. Death has far less meaning to me than most of the people on this planet.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    My understanding of death is that of a unique minority. My understanding of suffering and pain is likewise part of a unique minority. Yet, as one who was raised under the common conditions of so many people today, what you refer to as suburban, I have experienced profoundly the same form of death and suffering that they do, the death and impotence of the spirit.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I recognize this because I have also experienced life and strength of spirit. This brief glimpse into a deeply greater living has taught me that spiritual death and impotence is equally psychologically traumatizing as the physical.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    So, while I have not experienced your circumstances, I have experienced something akin to it, and so I can imagine it in a sense that doesn't truly reflect the reality, but produces a simple sense of it.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    All one can do is simply trudge on and strive.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    "spiritual death and impotence is equally psychologically traumatizing as the physical."

    eehee... beautifully the words of suburban ignorance, "boohoo spiritual death and ignorance" isn't exactly the kind of thing that gives you the shock of having no future life in this world when everything that you are and have been since birth comes down to the barrel of a handgun aimed at your face.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    But I guess spiritual death and ignorance makes you a real noble warrior

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    true, however, what it produces is the sense that even if you continue in this world... it's meaningless... pointless...

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    it's akin to the sentence of a criminal: death sentence, or life sentence? In one instance, the criminal is faced with immediate extinction. In the other instance, the criminal is faced with a prolonged meaningless life without freedom, without achievement or accomplishment.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    What's interesting is that the criminal sentenced to death is likely to choose life imprisonment, while the criminal sentenced to a life term is likely to desire death.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Why should it be so surprising that hundreds of people kill themselves every year?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I personally know people who have contemplated suicide.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    "true, however, what it produces is the sense that even if you continue in this world... it's meaningless... pointless..."

    nope. quite the opposite.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    mmm... you're right about that.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    youre only right in the short term sense

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    yet the point stands. Any person undergoing spiritual death is looking forward (in his perspective) to a meaningless life.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    there is a short term feeling of meaninglessness that follows such "traumatization" (a word spawned from the mind of the ignorant).

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    afterwhich one gradually progresses into a feeling of love for life.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    in some cases... if it is overcome...

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    it can also lead, as I've pointed out, to suicide.
    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    dead wrong

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    I'm talking strictly about the gun-to-nose/face life

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    and u?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    I'm talking about the duality of gun-to-nose and lack-of-soul lives.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    however... this would suggest that the life of the soul springs from a recognition of impending (short term, or long term) death... and I don't agree with this...

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    what the gun-to-nose life does is it can place things is stark perspective. Life is precious and valuable. Lack-of-soul life is a result, not a cause of perspective. It is caused by a malformed placement of values.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    Hence, the implication is that the one living the gun-to-nose life is seeing the true face of evil, the terrible horror of it. Whereas, one living the lack-of-soul life is living it because he is unable to see the true horror of evil. He lives as if there is no line between evil and good, there is no real distinction.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    So theresult is that he is damaged internally, but is ignorant of it, and does not understand form where the pain arises. Does not understand that it arises from evil. This is the subtler side of evil.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    rest assured that both are suffering... both experiencing evil... excpet that the primary difference is that one is obvious and in your face, while the other is suble and hidden.

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    "Lack-of-soul life is a result, not a cause of perspective. It is caused by a malformed placement of values."

    whoa there, care to restate this?

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    not really

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    now i see

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    A very precise conclusion I must give it to you.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    thank you

    Hiyah friends, Fuck You whayah deal wit?. says:
    anyway dude i gotta jet. feel free to chop that kinda deally wit ma latest sciforums topics.

    respect scene.

    Chris: What desperate pleas, our confident words. says:
    alright... see ya later
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2005
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  3. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    Kudos to Chris!
     
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  5. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Can you post that in a more readable manner?
     
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  7. nicholas1M7 Banned Banned

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    Yeh, knock yourself out its the illest topic in General Philosophy.
     
  8. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    yeah, like go through and replace the dumbass names with "him" and "me."

    well, I am not going to read it anyway, so who cares =]
     
  9. Roman Banned Banned

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    Yeah, I don't think anyone will read that before it's cleaned up a bit.
     
  10. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    I've read it.
     
  11. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    I read the first six lines and I want a medal for that.
     
  12. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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  13. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    good for you. you want a cookie? =]
     
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